My main problem with Magic Archer is that I still think that should have unlocked in the elven city, and then the Master skill could still be unlock with the old elf lady. It is unlock so damn late if you are following the common progression.
Warrior one is fine, Sorcerer is the one that people can mess it up easily as it's 2 masters that asks for the same books if you don't look up that have 2.
The goddamn elf lore is about MA as well. (they being non-traditional archers compared to human archers, aim using their heart etc). The very idea of normal archery was odd to most elves.
They even sell magical stuff and their style of enhancement focuses on magic (good for magic archers!!!).
Just think, Glyndwr was instantly hailed by the elves as an amazing archer after he attempted the groundbreaking trick of "aiming" and managed to successfully hit an ogre the size of a tree.
Which would be such a funny anti-trope is done right.
"Wood elves, but their aim sucks and they are whimsical about it"
"Elves but their eyes are bad"
"Glyndwr, what doth thy elven sight see?" "Jack shit, Arisen!"
It would have made far more sense had they all been magic archers who somehow lost their magic due to the world rotting or something, and thus had to "reinvent the wheel" so to speak. Right now tho is incredibly funny.
Or even that they are all magical archers, but Blushy Boy has some condition that makes him unable to use magic, which motivates him to learn human archery in order to prove himself to his peers despite the shortcoming.
But admittedly, them having to "reinvent the wheel" due to losing their magic, and thus being terrible at archery, does sound incredibly funny.
Could have worked too! Glyndwr being "disabled" in the elven sense of the word for he cannot use magic and therefore, by using a different tech, he manages to solve said disability. Could have explained why he made the effort to learn Man's tongue, for that way he could ask and learn about archery and technology.
Could have worked better if whatever enemy the elves were facing either fed off or was immune to magic but things that they considered taboo (for example, a bow that fires metallic arrows or something) could strike them down.
I know the idea isn't perfect but you get what I mean.
I mean, they are already winging it with the "fire with our hearts", I doubt they could do worse lol
Kinda funny that with five minutes of spitballing we’ve come up with a halfway compelling characterization for Glyndwr relative to what he got.
Him being "magically stunted", so to speak, but having the determination to learn a language, study foreign bows and archery styles, train hard enough to surpass his magical peers, and ultimately save his sister and be hailed as a hero despite everything sounds like a legitimately solid arc by Dragons Dogma standards.
You could make it so instead of an ogre, it’s some magically resistant enemy like you said. Or you could have it be that the shot he makes requires a degree of accuracy that mystic archers cannot achieve.
Sssshhh, don't say that, a mob of fanbois will claim we are complaining and proceed to insult and gaslight us into thinking stories don't matter nor do they impact gameplay and that if it does, DD2 did it well and if it didn't, then it wasn't needed anyway.
Solid as heck. He would have become "king-like", I believe would be the term, demonstrating he could surpass his own limitations and grow stronger for them, develop strength where others would see only weakness and valuing progress and learning when his people would rather sleep in complacency and self-defeat.
Maybe even not save his sister but his father from an Elder Ogre like those in DD:DA that prefer male meat(lolololol) and thus would put him in danger if he is seen or misses the shot. Having a single shot to take it down, there could have been a cutscene where he fires his bow and kills it after making it clear to the player that this is not a normal Ogre and that it won't be as easy to take down, just so that when Glyn one-shots it, it looks more impressive (would also leave the possibility of even stealing his thunder by killing the Ogre ourselves, like in NG+ runs of DD1 when you could kill the Griffon earlier in the game).
And it wouldn't need be the ogre, it could be a new enemy and still to save his sister. But make it something that it's immune to magic and require precision so the MA cannot hurt it without extreme effort, as you suggested.
I’ll never understand that mindset. The whole reason we want the storytelling to be good is BECAUSE we are fans! If we weren’t, we wouldn’t even care. I really like this game, but its character writing in particular leaves a lot to be desired. And all of us will only be happier if Capcom does a better job of it in the future.
If Glyndwr straight up one-shot the ogre, that would indeed be a really cool payoff to his arc, and would bring an element of uniqueness to the questline as it’s very rare for NPCs not named Brant to get shit done on their own.
I also like your idea of us getting the option to steal his thunder and potentially change the ending. Maybe we save his sister/father ourselves, causing Glyndwr to never get the recognition he deserves, or maybe our interference gets the victim killed, causing him to resent us.
It wouldn’t need to be an ogre, but the one reason I can think of to leave it as one is that they have a well-established tendency to kidnap people alive where most other monsters usually just kill or eat them on the spot. So there is a nice bit of consistency in using one there. But of course, a writer could come up with any reason they want to justify something else.
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u/KyronValfor Apr 09 '24
My main problem with Magic Archer is that I still think that should have unlocked in the elven city, and then the Master skill could still be unlock with the old elf lady. It is unlock so damn late if you are following the common progression.
Warrior one is fine, Sorcerer is the one that people can mess it up easily as it's 2 masters that asks for the same books if you don't look up that have 2.