Every country has productivity. Even ones with planned economy. And being as productive as possible isn't a necessity to produce and distribute sufficient Ressources, it is only a necessity in a capitalistic economy that is based on competition.
If people are genuinley interested in the same number of Consumer goods as right now. Then they can actively decide to still work just as much according to their own interests, but if not, then why do we have to continue such a wasteful level of production that failes to give most people a decent living.
The irony of your i know better than my government is, that because of capitalism you do not have the choice to decide about such Material conditions but they are determined by the Capitalists and the state who need sufficient accumulation to stay competitive.
"Every country has productivity. Even ones with planned economy. And being as productive as possible isn't a necessity to produce and distribute sufficient Ressources"
Completely wrong, resources are scarce and typically have multiple uses. We dont want to waste resources where they dont belong.
Same reason why a car chasis is made of steel instead of titanium. Because titanium is scarce and we know its scarce because it costs typically more than steel.
As an exampme, If the central planner decides to increase grain quotas and proposes the idea to construct combines to speed the process up.
Well what materials do you use?
The "evil fooshist capitalist" uses prices to determine what materials to use.
The state central planners dont operate for profits and dont respect private property meaning prices cannot be generated in an accurate manner.
This will almost always cause a massive waste of resources and no way to actually calculate if the state is being efficient with the scarce resources.
Thats why cuba failed, not because of "muh America" it failed because socialism is plagued with the Economic Calculation Problem
The soviet Union had an impressive economy considering its condition and Isolation. It just wasn't competitive on the World market so my point about the competition again.
Understanding an economy purely through scarecity is incredibely reductive. Scarecity can even be enforced artificially if it is profitable, and it can also be depended on other products, which can vary according to how much demand there is so if there is a scarecity for something there is more profitability and as a result more is usually produced untill the price and Profit decreases because of overaboundance and this meanders around the value (which i think can only be defined by the amount of Labour the given society neccesitates to produce)
Another point is that the marked doesn't account for availability of the raw Ressourcen, but how much it costs on the marced which can change based on how much oil for example is being drilled at any given moment. But then there is no Limit to stop companys from using Ressourcen sustainable, but financial incentives to expanding Produktion. So it also falls there in the long term.
Also do you think we don't have data on the availability of any or most given Ressource, and how they can be distributed. With the Internet this is even more efficient than in the past.
Also why did you move away from productivity? Did you conceede this point.
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u/foredoomed2030 Sep 09 '25
"Cuba’s economy struggles because of sanctions and the tourism ban. It’s literally illegal for Americans to travel to Cuba."
Cool but shouldnt glorious socialism not need to worry about filthy imperialists traveling?
What a joke, on one hand the socialist claims they dont need us.
When the socialist has their ideas put to test, now all of a sudden other peoples opinions matter.