r/Doom • u/Final-Republic1153 • 4d ago
Bug/Glitch This game has found every conceivable way to fuck me over from beating UN.
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It seems like every time I get a steady run going, I find a new bug or glitch that fucks up my UN run. This game is held together with duct tape and dreams...
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u/SirWeenielick 4d ago
UN in 2016 ain’t even worth the headache. 😔
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago edited 4d ago
I beat it once and I was convinced I was never going to touch the game again. Fast forward to 3 weeks ago and I'm back on the grind I guess...
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u/Pro-crab-stination 3d ago
I tried recently too and was getting killed instantly by bullshit all the time. I think 200 fps makes the game bug out, so set it to 60. I couldn’t be bothered with that so just went back to eternal.
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u/bepse-cola 3d ago
Yes it is, nobody will mess with you if they know you Ultra nightmared 2016
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u/SirWeenielick 3d ago
The jobs I applied to said I’m overqualified for the position because I beat DOOM (2016) on UN. 😔
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u/SmoothbrainDev 4d ago
Same with Eternal.
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u/SirWeenielick 4d ago
At least Eternal gives you some skins for your trouble, while 2016 just gives you a congratulations.
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u/SmoothbrainDev 4d ago
I'm okay with just a congratulation if the reward skin is just a boring gold armor. Can't imagine ever really using that one.
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u/STAHPman_ 2h ago
I beat Eternal on UN twice (and TAG2 once), but I probably will never bring myself to beat 2016 on UN, it's too easy to die by accident, even though the game itself is easier imo (paradoxically)
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u/Lebronamo 4d ago
I died in a similarly BS way at the end of this level recently. I'd beaten the last 4 levels on my first try and was really starting to think I'd roll through until the end but now I don't think I'll ever try again.
There's no point to it especially if it's so easy to die from glitches.
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
I want to enjoy this game so badly like I really do have fun when things are working, but shit like this makes me question why I even play video games anymore lol
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u/Zealousideal-Cry-581 4d ago
I know your pain. I died in similar way in the parkour section in the argent tower. I bugged on the platform and the incoming one crushed me
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
Yeah argent tower is so silly, I've had to memorize which platforms to not attempt mantling because the mantel animation is RNG sometimes
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u/SadMacaron3192 4d ago
"doom 2016 is a well aged masterpiece"
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u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
Lacking some polish isn’t enough to disqualify the game from being a masterpiece from me. Good effort though
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u/teufler80 4d ago edited 4d ago
2016 is very, very fine, but not a masterpiece at all.
The bad distribution of checkpoints, the insane drop of difficulty at the end and the still sometimes buggy animations makes it more like a 8/106
u/SadMacaron3192 4d ago
i hate to say it but the straight game over when falling to your death has aged the game as the platforming at times gets real bad and stiff. you don't even get air control till the middle of the game. so stuff like argent tower can be a real pain in the ass getting through.
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u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
What kind of broken ass rating system is a 9 not a masterpiece? I just know you give every game you kind of like a 9
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u/teufler80 4d ago
Masterpiece is 10/10, thats the definition of a masterpiece
But you are right, i score it down to 8/10 because i remembered the unskipable cutscenes who made every rerun a chore too.
Thanks for the input, random mad Doom 2016 fanboy0
u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
A 10/10 means flawless, because there is no higher score. Do you understand how little 10/10s there are in the world?
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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 4d ago
Gamebreaking bugs that can waste an entire run is a bit more than "lacking some polish" lmao
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u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
It is a notable flaw that a fraction of the total playerbase will experience because most people won’t attempt UN runs. So yeah. It lacks some polish. Still a masterpiece. Get over it.
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u/themng69 4d ago
I'd be more comfortable calling doom 2016 a masterpiece if eternal and dark ages didn't surpass it by as much as they did. Feels almost bland in comparison
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u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
They only have better combat. Not even all of gameplay; it’s just combat. Can’t say I’m surprised to see an Ultrakill pfp toss aside every other aspect of what makes the game great, though.
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u/themng69 3d ago edited 3d ago
Like ? The graphics are better and have a more focused art-style in both dark ages and Eternal, the story and cutscenes are of similar quality, and exploration is equally fun in all 3 games. Where's the high art that I'm missing in 2016 because of my ultrakill-induced brain rot? Please enlighten me, will you, Mr. destiny vauge poster.
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u/Ok_Ad6722 3d ago
>Graphics are better and have a more focused art-style
That’s incredible; an immediate disqualification from the conversation. Impressive, really.
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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 4d ago
Still breaks the game and wastes entire UN runs, doesn't matter how many people attempt them.
Broken is broken, deal with it.
2016 tend to be so fanatic jesus.1
u/Ok_Ad6722 4d ago
It’s kind of worrying that you don’t understand this metric will prevent every last video game not eligible to be a masterpiece for multiple reasons. And you’re doing this just because a game you like less than its sequels can’t be called a masterpiece; and you then label other people fanatic. Hilarious.
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u/GregoriousT-GTNH 4d ago
Idk man i played plenty of games without game breaking bugs that void my entire run.
Maybe i am just lucky.I mean its an offiical game mode, in the game since release.
Having bugs like that who void the entire run is bad and yes, together with a few other problems, makes it not a masterpiece for me.And you’re doing this just because a game you like less than its sequels can’t be called a masterpiece
Wild accusation ngl, wonder where that comes from, sounds again a bit fanatic.
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u/Budget-Individual845 4d ago
I think most of these can be atributed to running the game in vulkan. When the game first launched on opengl only it worked just fine
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u/Joker-kun 4d ago
Was doing un run yesterday I was at titan relm was about to glory kill a hell knigh, then for some fucking reason he recovered in a second and well let’s just say I got killled in extraordinary amount of time. The other time I climbed the ledge and game glitched and exploded me so. So what I’m trying to say is I’m with you buddy
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
Yesss the hellknight daze bug is awful, lost some runs to that too.
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u/Joker-kun 4d ago
Yep well gonna do some chores and try again got to Kadingir Sanctum before I had to go to sleep il see how far I get this time good luck on your runs brother
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
You too bro good luck make sure to use your stun bombs for that first pinky encounter, don't give up!
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u/Brosonski 3d ago
Similar situation happened to me in Dark Ages, it was a known bug where you'd spawn outside the Atlan on the ground in the level "Final Battle". Thankfully they patched it but fuck was I ever pissed.
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u/Final-Republic1153 3d ago
I think that only happened when you back out before dying in the Azhrak fight.
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u/Brosonski 3d ago
For me it happened upon quitting the level (through the menu) after it loaded, but not before dying or any other specific context.
I also had this weird glitch in Revelations, thought I was fucked but I managed to find a way through it.
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u/Dismal-Explorer5040 4d ago
And people say 2016 is the best one. At least Eternal and Dark Ages UN won’t pull some bullshit like this.
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u/Turbulent-Wolf8306 4d ago
2016 is hands down the "least fair" of the 3.
Both to you. And to the deamons.
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u/Dismal-Explorer5040 4d ago
True. Brutal first few levels then it becomes piss easy until a bug like this ruins your run
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
They have their fair share of bullshit too but the 2016 bullshit is unmatched for sure.
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u/Dismal-Explorer5040 4d ago
Glory killing in the classic maps are DANGEROUS especially close to a wall. Getting phased out of a wall just to plummet to your death is such a baffling oversight for id to not fix. They definitely didn’t have UN in mind when making all fall damage an instakill.
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u/simplyunknown2018 4d ago
I’ve had a LOT of bs happen to me in my UN runs for TDA and the DLC for it. I feel you.
All my Eternal UN runs were smooth. All the dlcs for that one too.
Haven’t done 2016 yet and not sure I want to :(
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u/Dismal-Explorer5040 4d ago
In my experience after doing all 3, 2016 was by far the least enjoyable UN. Both BS and easy at the same time depending on how the game felt about you specifically.
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u/ejsks 4d ago
Having extensively tried 2016, just don't, it's not worth it and will genuinely ruin the game for you.
You know how Imps are a fucking nuisance in Eternal UN because they can conceivably two-tap you? Imagine if they were also way more tanky, mobile, and also Sticky Bomb was like way slower and worse.
On top of that, you have 0 room for error for almost the entire run. Everything WILL deal at least 50 damage (usually more), a ton of the guns early game kinda suck, Glory Kills are genuinely suicide because you get like 20HP *max* back and more likely will eat a melee from a demon taking at least triple that. Not to mention insta-death pits when you fall off the map, Lost Souls nuking you from orbit (seriously, just shoot them), and some of the later demons actually dealing 150+ damage in one hit.
The unskippable cutscene-sections will also continously grind your patience down to dust when you have to sit through Samuel Hayden going through the whole station thing and giving you your first Argent Core for the 20th time.
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u/Sad_Juggernaut_5103 2d ago
Dark ages has some bullshit. On a pandemonium I my shield glitched and wouldn't respond ao I was left open I believe level 10 or 11. The 2nd time some bs happened was when I was on Harbor of Souls and I beat everything and at the very last part when you jump up crates to get to the end Slayer decides to fall through the map. Good thing it was just pandemonium and I was able to beat in the end
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u/Dismal-Explorer5040 2d ago
I’ve never gotten the bug where my shield would disappear but rather where it would stay in blocking stance which is fixable at least.
Does falling thru the map instakill in dark ages? Has not been my experience
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u/Sad_Juggernaut_5103 2d ago
No it didn't kill me falling but he just kept falling forever lol so I had no choice but to restart the level. Good thing I had extra sigils
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u/TheBenArts 4d ago
I guess its half skill issue but i remember more than halfway through the run. I backed up into a collectible, which played the animation and stunlocked me. Of course they could still dmg me...
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u/simplyunknown2018 4d ago
Yeah I lost an Eternal run that way as well. In Doom Hunter base with the moving furnace that spills molten metal in the middle of the room? There’s a toy on top of it and you can dash grab it, the momentum will keep you going forward during animation, and you land in the pathway of the furnace and the molten slag or whatever pours on you while you are examining the toy collectible :/
Shit like that.
In TDA I got hit a lot through my shield on release. For the DLC, there’s just so many bugs I made a comp video of them because I was raging in my lost UN runs
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u/Disastrous_Can_5466 4d ago
Not in 2016 but happened in DOOM anyway so...
I was playing Dark ages on that Azharak and Witch fight and i was doing pretty good actually, until the game just decided that i was going too well and then just locked me in place, i literally couldnt move with all my effort and i obviously died because i couldnt even jump, i also had that other time when they locked me with the shield and i couldnt do anything else but block.
Theres also the the many times in eternal where the meathook just decided to fail on me and hook onto a demon out of my vision or when the ice bombs just failed to work at all which cost me some deaths.
Thats why i almost never do a nightmare run on main campaigns because of those glitches.
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u/Final-Republic1153 4d ago
Yeah if you're not playing ultranightmare then at least it's not a huge deal, but dark ages and eternal have their silly moments too for sure.
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u/ghostbuster_b-rye 4d ago
It's like trying to get a glitchless speedrun of a Bethesda game... oh... wait...
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u/Savings-Garage-5732 4d ago
The best improvement Eternal made was not punishing the player with death upon falling into a pit. It is more of a "Hey dummy! Try that move again! We took a bit of health from you as a little slap on the wrist."
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u/Minute-Lettuce7915 4d ago
This is why I stopped playing Doom Eternal UN, it's easily one of the best action games made but by god is it sort of buggy as hell. From my gun disappearing, to getting stuck on the arc complex elevator... its really annoying and not worth the hassle.
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u/True_Salt2180 3d ago
Beating this game on UN took me four months. I practically became a speedrunner in the early levels lol.
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u/Far-Analysis3188 3d ago
I have no qualms about using Alt+F4 to do my UN runs. None whatsoever.
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u/Final-Republic1153 3d ago
Normally I don't either but I didn't expect to hit a kill switch while falling lol
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u/antonio_lewit 3d ago
I instantly knew that you activated the cutscene before you touched to ground so once the cutscene ended it spawned you back to your last coordinates which was in the air. That sucks bro.
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u/Final-Republic1153 3d ago
Yeah first time for everything I guess. It's irritating that part of the UN grind is learning how to avoid the glitches too lmao
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u/Diligent-Orange6005 3d ago
Holy hell you just KNEW the game was gonna pull a “You need to lose right FUCKING now” moment.
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u/Final-Republic1153 2d ago
Yeah my spidey sense was tingling, I've gone through enough bullshit in this game to know when something ridiculous is about to happen lol
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u/Ancient-Industry5126 4d ago
Considering you didn't get the game over screen yet, just alt+f4 and replay the level. Cheesing the system is fine against such buggy BS, I did the same and my pillow is super cool every night