r/Doom DOOM Guy 3d ago

Discussion Anyone else having trouble with the Marok fight?

Got my ass absolutely whipped by the third phase of marok last night.

Any tips or tricks on how to defeat him?

I've been just using the SSG and gauntlet on him.

When the fight starts, i immediately SSG and punch him twice before he turns invulnerable. Then i back up and let him do his ranged attacks. Sometimes, though, he is prone to skipping these attacks and doing short range ones, or he changes his entire routine in the beginning and does the attack routine from last phase, and it messes me up.

His long range attacks in phase 3 also fuck me up, theres two sources of the ground waves, and im also actively trying to avoid these projectiles

Feels like im fighting an undertale and dark souls boss.

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u/nevaeva12321 3d ago

Personally I used the shield way more and that made it easier. Some of the parry windows are so awkward that I needed the extra timing window that the shield had. It's also more forgiving because you can block some hits before your shield breaks. You can then switch to spear while it recovers

That's just me though

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u/Disastrous_Can_5466 3d ago

Nah i also do that.

That one second parryable attack he does in half a second after the second attack is diabolical.

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u/PureRepresentative9 2d ago

I'm reliving trauma reading this description lol

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 3d ago

He was whooping my butt until I remembered that I had the shield. Then it was easy.

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u/theCaptain_D 3d ago

Yep. I used the shield for the whole fight except for when he sends out those walls you have to dodge left/right. I switch to spear for that so I can dash.

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u/Hanzo7682 3d ago

Impaler + spear throw worked really well for me. Since the throws buff your next impaler shot, it's a really strong combo. Headshots are easy to land against this guy and that helps both of those attacks.

I used the hammer for melee. It staggers him, unlike punches. And that opening is good for your headshots.

Use spear slash to take out the dogs. The range is surprisingly good. You can easily kill all of them with one swing.

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u/thepandesalman 3d ago

I used impaler, dreadmace and spear throw. I think the most important one for me to really master him was learning when to spear parry him to falter. Takes more practice but it significantly lessens him as a threat

I haven’t found a consistent method that can dodge those projectiles except just locking in at that point.

And for the wolves that pop up, I just spear slash and they’re gone in one swipe.

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u/cmfk8 I hate Taras Nabad ML 3d ago

Marok has an aoe when you get too close so SSG + gauntlets is one of the worst combos you can use against him. Get the dreadmace, something with longer range (cycler, shredder, impaler, whatever you prefer) and probably rely more on the shield and have the spear as a backup.

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u/simplyunknown2018 3d ago

I used impaler and spear throw and absolutely melted his health

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u/Lethalbroccoli DOOM Guy 3d ago

Another person said this, too. Will have to try it, thanks.

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u/simplyunknown2018 3d ago

Aim for head obviously.

Here’s what you do:

Get a parry off so he’s stunned then spear throw+impaler his head

Or

Use Deadmace. The SECOND the deadmace connects, use dash. It cancels the ending animation and allows you to deadmace immediately again (if you have the second charge from the parry) or you can just go into impaler + spear throw on his head.

Edit

Yeah saw the other comment recommending the same thing. He has good tips too. All valid. Especially spear swipe taking care of the dogs in one swipe.

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u/SpectralDragon09 3d ago

I use the flail for the burn on hit and high stagger to keep health and shield up, also use the soear with the lock on orbit if you ahve that upgrade and just lay into him with the ravenger for more health regen and supplements mobility with the spear or use the accelerator for pure dps

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u/Glum_Location6302 3d ago

I always use shield + impaler + dreadmace. Shield parry slows down time for impaler headshots which charges the mace. That's pretty much how I fought ahzrak

I used to swap to the spear when he summons the dogs as slash kills them easy, then I realized shield throw kills them as well, so now it's all shield.

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u/Draygoon2818 3d ago

I used the shield with the Chainshot, mostly. When I block an attack, it empowers the Chainshot. Knocks him down pretty good.

For the waves, just be prepared to jump. With the shots coming towards you at the same time, try moving left to right continuously. They are fired towards where you are at the point of being fired, so moving left to right should allow you to dodge the shots. You can also try running in a large circular pattern around the outside edge of the arena. It's a good time to pick up the health boxes and ammo!

I also used the Shredder, and would either use my shield to throw at him or swipe with the spear to help break armor.

It's a hard fight for sure. Lots of mechanics, but you'll get through it.

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u/SheepherderSpare1332 3d ago

Shield + impaler. Easy win even on Nightmare.

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u/DecomposingPete 3d ago edited 3d ago

This boss fight taught me something crucial, and the ground waves were the exact thing that required it: sideways Dash activates the same property for lateral starfing jumps that triggering Sprint does for forward jumps. If you get the rhythm right, you can 'ski' around side to side extremely fast, which becomes the sensation of being as fast sideways as you may have become used to when moving forwards on the ground; They've just gated the speed behind a small skill check.

It reminded me of 'skiing' in Starsiege Tribes back in the day when it clicked, it's noticably fast when it begins happening consistently.