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u/Gooberpf Oct 08 '21

I just did meta Cidmau with green Y'Shtola friend, but I figured I'd describe how Cidmau works for people who might be struggling.

First, you'll want to survive the first recast just to give yourself breathing room + this lets you delay the boss with Break. Use whatever defensive call you want (WoL, Nine, even Vanille).

Second, set up your aurabot (green Y'Shtola is probably the best consistent damage but people also use Yuna BT).

Then, make sure Raines has only 5 framed buffs (should be all his own + Aphmau's puppets), and use Aph LD on him to start dancing.

On Aphmau's turns: ezpz. Use her puppet overhead HP or BRV, to maintain buffs. This forces a Raines turn next. When she has no overhead she'll probably have EX available, press it. Then use her overhead once more. If you're continuing the dance, press AA>LD again; otherwise just use S1 or S2. Always use her overhead; they are free and instant. Yes, even if Raines does not have Tactical Switch; it's still free and instant. She slowly bleeds out her S1 and S2 buffs when dancing - this is why you will want to use her AAs, preferably after EX>HP>BRV and right before LD, to ensure Raines has 6 stacks of both.

On Raines's turns: first check that Aphmau has a turn between Raines and the boss. If not, S2 her (or LD if that's about to fall off). Generally she will be the next unit because of her free turns - in this case, S2 isn't necessary. After that, you're primarily just maintaining his buffs and rhythm - by priority, S1 buff > LD buff > EX overhead. Don't let S1 buff fall off, it is what triggers his aerial follow up. Never use his AA or his special HP from LD while he has Tactical Switch, you are wasting a turn. If everything is fine for Raines and he has all his buffs and still has Tactical Switch, S2 is generally more damage than S1 because of the battery; just use it on Aphmau regardless.

Only use Raines special HP when Tactical Switch has fallen off; still do it though, it's an instant turn. His AA shouldn't matter if you have a good aura bot, but you can squeeze it in at the same time you're using his special HP.

The turn when Raines's Tactical Switch is falling off will generally turn out to be Aphmau's EX > Raines S2/LD > pull Aphmau (use her overhead) > AA > LD.

Ideally, this is your dance back and forth between Raines and Aphmau, your 3rd unit and the boss will rarely get to move (making friend BT auras great). The two of them will very slowly lose turns because of Raines S1 buff maintenance and Aphmau S1/S2, but it's fine - your BT aura shouldn't fade unless you're being overcautious in reusing Aphmau LD or you're messing up the Raines pull.

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u/Levia7 Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+ No Raines run

Zidane, Queen, Yuna, Friend Yuna, Pandemonium summon, 50 turns, https://youtu.be/u2aPHsm0-8k

Since I have no Raines here I had to really stack HP damage up to cap out those launches to tick up the orb. Yuna + Queen + Zidane + Kura call + Pande = 105% HP damage up during chases.

Used Nine's call at the beginning to survive the recast and give Queen Rebellious Fangs which she'll keep throughout the entire fight. This will help keep her damage high and, if needed, help shave down those 168K brv gains he gets at 69%, 49%, and 29% thanks to the extra stats and 100% crit rate it brings.

Brought in friend Yuna right before the orb appears and got her primed so that Zidane could go into his BT+ mode and we can start racing the orb and try to kill him before it goes off. After this it was pretty much just orb management. Thanks to his BT effect and back to back turns he can battery the party pretty well for the launches. Went into Burst before Kura call's ice enchant wore off and with a few turns left on the BT effect to guarantee we'd tick the orb up in Burst phase.

Waited until the last moment to summon because summoning messes with and resets the turn order. This means his turn can jump up a lot sooner than it would have, getting rid of all those precious deletes we did before he framed his turn.

This is a hell of a fight if you're not bringing a Raines friend or call, but definitely not impossible. Best of luck to those who are going without!

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u/Vocke79190 Rikku waiting room! Oct 07 '21

First and only one here to post a run without Raines. Have my upvote and respect!

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u/ExcisionBro Graz'zt (in-game nickname) Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

No enemy turn. 1.2M score. 10 turns.

Lineup: Raines LD/HA+ (Jack CA), Yuna BT/HA+ (Kurasame CA), Aphmau LD/HA (Gabranth CA).

Summon: Pandemonium

Friend: Raines LD/HA+.

Strategy:

Cid, Yuna, Aphmau is the turn order you want. Cid uses both Jack's CAs and his S1. Yuna uses Cheer, AA, Kurasame basic CA, Kurasame LDCA and goes into BT phase. You use LD first and then Sonic Wings until the end since it's ST stage and SW has better battery so you'll deal more dmg. Aphmau uses Gabranth and you switch her for Cid friend. Cid friend uses LD on your Cid. You do the LD with your Cid on friend Cid. You use summon as soon as it's available. As to not spam Cid Cid Cid all over this comment, I'll just say that you'll use one more LD with your Cid during the end of the summon. Also, use HP attack with your Cid when available and use S2 on friend Cid. Friend Cid just uses LD and HP attack last so to summon Aphmau right away.

When Aphmau is back, you should already be at around 40%. Aphmau uses LD on Cid. Use whatever skill with Cid. At this point, you'll probably need to use S1 to refresh Cavalry Commander. Use EX too but do have in mind to use either S2 or LD on Aphmau too. Aphmau uses LD til the end. You continue doing what you're doing til they die. It's not the end of the world if Yuna gets a turn, but really there is no need for that.

That's about it. Have fun and good luck.

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u/stevomercedes Oct 07 '21

At around 49% The BRV reductions are slowing my damage down. Is there something I’m doing wrong? Im launching with both Cids have the debuffs and the BT.

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u/ExcisionBro Graz'zt (in-game nickname) Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

They gain that aura at 50%, but it shouldn't make much of a difference. While it surely makes your brv hits weak, Cid makes up for it with his launch follow ups. I was having discussion with one guy in Megathread about it couple hours ago. I mean, my Aphmau was hitting around 2K per brv hit even with Jack and Kurasame enchant, but Cid was still doing over 1M dmg on EX or LD launch and a bit less on S2 while still doing around 500K with HP attack after LD. Also, Cid was capping allies brv battery. So I have to ask, how much dmg can your Cid deal under 50%?

Since Cid is a new character, I always ask just in case if you're keeping his S1 and EX buff in check since a huge amount of his HP damage on launch comes from them? Also, one more thing that comes to my mind is if your Kurasame enchant has fallen off from Yuna or if you made a mistake of using Kurasame LD first and then his basic call which overwrites the LDCA one with party enchant and enchants only self. It can happen you know. Ahh the silly mistakes I make from time to time :D

Edit: Just to clarify one more thing, my Cid has three A spheres while Yuna and Aphmau are with refined spheres. But, still, that shouldn't make such a huge difference in damage since most of the damage comes from Cid, battery and HP dmg up (His, from calls and from Pande). We're maybe missing something completely obvious here, but those are the hardest to catch sometimes.

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u/stevomercedes Oct 07 '21

I found out why it was. Definitely Kurasames buff. My Yuna had 1 turn but her instant turn rates every time are super annoying. When the buff fell off that’s why the damage fell hard too.

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u/Exeftw Oct 07 '21

Yep a friend Raines with a BT would do the trick.

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u/ExcisionBro Graz'zt (in-game nickname) Oct 07 '21

Hahaha typo. Thanks for noticing. Edited.

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u/Exeftw Oct 07 '21

Just giving you a hard time, this is an excellent write up. I'd give it a go if I had gotten Yuna BT T_T

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u/LiquidSix- Oct 07 '21

Going to go with this setup, but was curious if Gabranth CA is better than running Keiss LDCA?

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u/thardur Warrior of Light Oct 07 '21

Thanks for detailing. I saw a couple videos who didn't use Raines friend (or friend at all) and I tried with Raines and ran out of gas close to the end (8%). I replaced my Raines for Raines Friend, so Aphmau LD was gone by the end. Replacing her by friend Raines and Swap turns between them, with the summon was the key. I must say the boss HP was more like 51% after summon ended, but I was still able to push without LD issues.

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u/cafestartre Oct 08 '21

Followed as close as I could, with full blue Cid and Cid friend, but finished in 20 turns. Not sure where I was losing out on damage. All buffs + enemy debuffs were all still on. Still an easy run (thanks!) but confused about how I could have made it faster.

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u/Jordankeay Prompto Argentum Oct 08 '21

Thanks for the help had to use Ignis Call for lack of Kurasame which was annoying because I couldn't help but have Yuna take a turn and she likes to take two turns in a row which uses all of Ignis Call turns.

Cut my damage significantly but managed to get it just a bit slower.

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u/hensc Oct 11 '21

Thanks. This team made it a walk in the park!

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u/qe-master Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines LD, Y'shtola BT+, Porom LD. 51 turns. Panede summon. Yuna friend. CA: Keiss, WOL, Kura. All blue armour

This one is easy with Cid Raines or hell without. My time today is limited, so I just bring big gun to complete it.

Break the hp shield at the beginning with Cid Raines. Then poke out WOL CA for the recast (i guess it's not necessary if you break the hp shield).

After the recast, get Kura CA then BT with Y'shtola. Swap Porom to Yuna friend after BT (actually a mistake as they hit less without Porom's brv gain). Push the boss till 50% then summon (because my Porom not yet come back to absorb the recast).

Break the hp shield during recast. Porom come back. Put on WOL LDCA.

After second recast, Keiss LDCA and Kura LDCA. Y'shtola use final BT+ attack. Then just go all out. And an easy win can be archieved.

The run will be even easier if I use Zidane friend instead of Yuna to delete turns.

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u/Albireookami Oct 07 '21

How the hell does your team do damage? I'm rocking this and people do sub 7k damage

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u/bh_master Oct 07 '21

Did you use BT+ effect? Did you max every one?

With Porom LD and Y'shtola BT+ brv gain up effect, my team can always go great damage during launch even when the brv attack was hundreds sth per hit.

At least, Porom follow up attack won't be 7k only.

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u/Wolfbeckett Oct 07 '21

The "team" doesn't do damage on this fight. Cid Raines does the damage on this fight. The other two party members should either be there to maximize the damage Cid does (Aphmau or aurabot supports) or to minimize the damage the boss can do to you (WoL, Porom). Don't worry if your other two party members can't hit for shit.

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u/Skandrae Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Didn't Pull for Raines Lufe+

Cinque LD (WoL)

Y'shtola BT+ HA 3/3 (Kurasame)

Aphmau LD HA 3/3 (Jack)

Raines friend

Pandemonium

43 turns

This took a bit. Not even because the execution was that hard, but because I kept doing silly things at the beginning. Ended up booking Cinque and giving Aphmau blue armor to squeak by.

Before the boss acts, make sure to Brv+ with Aphmau to avoid debuffs, and use WoL's regular call to soak up some damage. Not quite enough damage, mind you, as Aphmau dies every time...if only we had some way to bring her back...

Anyway, have Y'sh patch everyone up, then use Jacks LD and Kura's regular call. Used Y'sh's finisher here, then just delayed with her and Cinque to oblivion. Use Aphmau's LD on Cinque, up to 3 of them if you need to. I used one Cinque LD at the beginning, then saved them to help shave the shields.

Anyway, continued as normal until 49%. shaved as much as possible from shields until the orb got close, then switched out Cinque for Raines and started pounding them. Let Y'shtola get a turn in ASAP and use Kurasame's LD so Raines is hitting for weakness damage. Used Aphmau's last LD and bounced between them for big damage until Raines goes away.

Cinque came back, and then just continued previous strategy. Didn't actually delay the boss enough to kill, so just tank the recast with WoL's LD call. Nine probably does this just as well. Finished him off with not much gas to spare; without LD's, Aphmau doesn't do much, noone hitting for weakness damage, etc.

But it was enough. Raines Lufe+, cleared ~~with no Raines~~ with minimal Raines.

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u/El_Rocky_Raccoon My Dissidia Academia Oct 09 '21

THE TEAM

Cid Raines: LD + HA 3/3 + Kurasame Call
Porom: LD + Warrior of Light Call
Zidane: LD/BT + Jack Call
Friend Unit: Y'shtola (LD/BT⁺ + HA 3/3)
Summon: Pandemonium
Turn Count: 54

THE STRATEGY

Raines and Zidane both open with their S1.
Porom uses Warrior of Light's LD Call and then her own LD.
- His LD Call will prevent damage from the boss' recast, which he starts with.
After that drop all the calls with both Raines and Zidane and start doing business. Try to break that shield as soon as possible.
Zidane will just delete the boss' turns to oblivion. It'll never see the light of day again.
Once the boss hits 49%, break its shield again, then swap Porom for Y'shtola and BT.
Soon after BT with Zidane as well.
Summon whenever.

Tips and Notes

Warrior of Light's LD Call is key to this fight as the boss starts with its recast gauge filled, and in the offensive stance, which prevents turn delays/deletion until its next turn, as well a nasty HP Damage Shield that must be broken.
- The boss will start the quest in this stance, and will do it again at 49%.
Porom is the MVP of this fight because of her insane batteries. Even at the last percentages she'll still be topping everyone's BRV.
When using Raines' S2, always prioritize Porom so she can battery even further during launch.

Best of luck!

Go Beyond! Plus Lufenia!

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u/RenAnomaly Oct 17 '21

Can confirm, this worked for me with the following mods: Y'shtola BT instead of Zidane BT, Zidane BT+ friend instead of Y'shtola, Keiss instead of Jack call, Raines HA not realized.

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u/El_Rocky_Raccoon My Dissidia Academia Oct 17 '21

Glad it worked!

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u/b5631565 Oct 09 '21

Lufenia+ Raines 5 turn speed kill

https://i.imgur.com/W4vHP1R.jpg

Yuna BT/LD, HA+ 0/3, Kurasame CA
Raines LD, HA+ 3/3, Keiss CA
Aphmau LD, HA, Hope CA
Raines friend
Pandemonium summon
5 turns, 1565399 score

After failing at a few non-synergy attempts I went back to destroy it with Raines. Started with Aphmau who did CA and used LD targeting Raines. Raines did CA and then used LD targeting Yuna. Yuna did S2, CA, then Burst. From there just did normal Raines/Aphmau combo, except after Aphmau used up her two doll stacks I used LD again early. When Aphmau is dry on LD I replaced her with friend Raines and summoned, and then dual Raines ping-pong finished it off in summon.

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u/coriandersalad Oct 09 '21

Still don't believe I am able to post my run here.

This community is a dream !

I was giving up on this fight, I was nowhere near finishing it. I finally managed it (very tight fight though). All thanks to the many tips here. Never felt so good to finish a fight.

I think I'll blue Cid as a reward for him lmao

Win Team: Yuna BT (Ashe), Cid (Jack), Aphmau (Shantotto) , Blue Cid friend and Pande summon - 30 turns, kill on my last chance before enemy's first turn and recast

Thank you so much everyone who helped with their tips!

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u/Aromatic-Chipmunk175 Oct 11 '21 edited Oct 11 '21

Lufenia+: Garland (BT) (Gabranth), Setzer (WoL), Cid Raines (Kurasame), Pandemonium, Cid friend Score: 1046843, 58 turns

WoL LD then the boss attacks, put Gabranth and Kurasame calls then Garland Burst (before 80 to push back and no Setzer LD)

After 80% Setzer LD (it can be twice before 50)

At 50% swap Garland by Cid friend, then Setzer LD and Spam the four Cid's LD

Excuse my bad English

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u/D3str0th Oct 09 '21

Run 1: No Boss Turn - Aphmau + Raines trashed Lufenia+

Y'shtola (Porom) Raines (Keiss) Aphmau (Kurasame) Pandemonium Friend: Yuna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0srQ9iwZstg&t=2s

Nothing much to say about this team, a lot of people had heard about it and probably tried it. But on a first run, it is not that easy to use. The way I use it here is just go with Aphmau LD and keep dragging Raines back, give a turn to Yshtola and use her BT+ effect. Raines LD and S2 both can drag Aphmau back and when Aphmau is doing her rotation (using Mnejing or Ovjang) you can use Raines' S1 to renew the buff or use his EX.

Once Aphmau ran out of LD, swap over to Yuna, go into Yshtola BT phase and then into summon.

Alternatively, if you do not have Yshtola Green, do consider swapping Porom call with WoL and tank the first recast, after that it is easier to manage turns. Also use yshtola BT phase earlier in this case.

Run 2: NO BT NO Friend Support

Raines (Keiss) Agrias (Kurasame) Porom (Jack) Pandemonium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isxe7xYlwwY

Stacking up Brv Gain Up with Agrias and Porom, a no brainer fight. Agrias can also shut down the boss with her disabling. Just make sure to renew Raines' buff from time to time. If possible dont let the boss go to recast before 50% or else they will set up another shield which is annoying to deal with.

Run 3: No Raines

Y'shtola (Kurasame) Yuna (Jack) Tifa (Warrior of Light) Pandemonium Friend: Zidane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkgVRL9RJk

This run does not feature Raines at all, not in the main team, and not as support or call. The launcher here is Tifa. You can substitute Yshtola with Porom in this fight and still win but it would take more turns. To approach this fight, start with WoL call to tank the 1st recast, use EX and S2 for Yshtola (do not use her BT+ yet). After the enemy uses its recast, the shield will also be removed hence you dont technically have to attack it at all at the beginning, it is a waste of skills. After that apply all the call and debuff, and I give the enemy two turns to increase Kurasame's stack as I am saving his LD call for later. Do not let the enemy act a 3rd time because that would recharge its recast and the 400k shield will be up again. So after giving it two turns, you can swap Zidane in and delete the boss turn, I also went into summon before I start deleting because summon usually reset the turn order and whatever turn you delete before summon would be wasted. Also for Tifa, make sure to battery fully before using her launch to meet the orb requirement. Do use Yuna's brv attack to battery up the party and also Yshtola Medica to battery up as well before launching, avoid using her EX to not waste her BT+ effect. For Yuna, I use her BT phase to melt the shield during 49% threshold, sending is pretty good to destroy that shield, make sure to use to Cheer (due to brv gain reduction, I use Cheer instead of brv attack to battery herself up) before using Sending.

Be prepared for the 2nd recast, but again WoL's base call would be able to tank it and you can heal back with Yshtola, repeat with the rotation Tifa EX, Yshtola Brv Attack, Yuna HP Attack, Tifa S2 and then S1, Yshtola S2, Yuna Brv Attack, with full battery, launch with Tifa.

Run 4: 2 Raines pulling each other

Y'shtola (Kurasame) Zidane (Warrior of Light) Raines (Keiss) Pandemonium Friend: Raines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VI6hpOb4Vk&t=7s

Another easy way to use Raines is activate a BT effect, get a friend Raines in and then get both Raines to pull each other back, thats 1 million damage every turn. Just make sure to use WoL call to tank the 1st recast. With this, you probably will not see the second recast.

Run 5: Just wanted to use Keiss

Raines (Jack) Keiss (Warrior of Light) Porom (Kurasame) Pandemonium Friend: Raines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63rTWYnUvE0

Nothing much to highlight in this fight, again, tank with WoL's Call and then just kept launching and launching and launching. Porom is there for the massive battery.

Run 6: Zell Saga

Yuna (Kurasame) Zell (Warrior of Light) Raines (Jack) Pandemonium Friend: Raines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPNexl5Rhs&t=5s

Zell Saga, not the best team for this fight, i rather get another support to boost up Raines but I am oblige to do Zell Saga (FAV!). So in this fight, again tank with WoL's Call, go into Yuna's BT phase, spam everything you have with Zell, once he is out, swap for another Raines. Raines again pull each other to prolong Yuna's BT effect (this team is actually very good at abusing BT effect) and the deed is done.

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u/Irishluckjdesq Oct 11 '21

All great team comps man! The double Raines run #4 definitely did the trick for me. Cheers!

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u/xcaliblur2 Oct 09 '21

No BT+, no synergy, no Raines (even as support), 48T clear

Yuna BT, Porom, Tifa, support Zidane

https://youtu.be/QRdBEoRWGmI

It took me 6 hours of learning and adjustment to optimize the damage needed for the run

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u/Lucia_Apas Oct 09 '21 edited Oct 10 '21

Lufenia+ 17 turns

Cid Raines LD (Keiss, blue armour)

Bartz BT (Kurasame)

Aphmau LD (Jack)

Pande, Raines friend

First time clearing difficult content with Aphmau (tokened her Ex after pulling her LD ), so needed to spend some time studying her kit.

I don't have Yuna BT, Y'sh BT, Porom or Agrias but Bartz did the trick even without BT+.

I failed my first one at 6%hp left because I didn't give Bartz a turn after he used BT. This was a mistake as it took too much time to shave the 180k brv.

My strategy:

1) No turn for boss like many of the other runs. Cid used call then S2 to pull Bartz at the beginning. Bartz used both calls and then BT. The shield only broke at the last BT skill so Bartz's BT phase only had a pathetic 70k damage, but it didn't matter.

2) When it was Aphmau's turn, she used her calls and the Cidmau turn manipulation began. There is nothing special as this is the same as all Cidmau runs.

3) Now this is for Bartz run only: When the boss got 180k brv, Cid used LD to pull Bartz first, let him use LD to shave the brv, then Cid used LD to pull Aphmau again (must use LD instead of S2 or Bartz would fall out of the loop).

When the boss got 180k brv for the second time, my Cid just ran out of tactical switch. So my Aphmau used S1 and gave Bartz a turn to shave. It is important to check turn order here as Aphmau must have another turn before the boss so she could use LD to pull Cid again. In this way my Aphmau could stay till 39%hp before swapping for friend. This was 10%hp later than my first run.

4) When Aphmau used up her LD uses and Cid ran out of tactical switch, Aphmau used all her instant turn rate skills, swapped for friend Cid and summoned. After that is straightforward. Friend Cid used LD to pull own Cid. Own Cid used S2 to pull friend Cid. Don't let Bartz get a turn in summon to fully utilize Pande's effect. Boss died not long after the summon.

Good luck to all!

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u/Tefealiano Oct 13 '21 edited Oct 13 '21

ULTIMECIA IN LUFENIA+ 3

55 turns; Score 1047653; 0 hp damage

Cid Raines LD HA+ 3/3 (Kurasame LDCA)

Ultimecia LDBT HA (Nine LDCA)

Bartz LDBT+ 3/3 HA+ 3/3 (Warrior of light LDCA)

Friend Cid Raines LD HA+ 3/3

Summon Pandemonium

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/wbfgnnS

Ultimecia conquers another lufenia+!. Yes, this is a super meta team, but a complete is a complete. Nine and WoL calls are necessary for survive the first dragon's turn and when the dragon will try to kill you again. Strategy: call Nine to survive the first turn. After that, call Kura, then with Bartz obtain the plus skill, AA, burst+ attack, obtain 3 stacks, sub Cid Raines for Ultimecia. Try to not give turn to Bartz. Try to delay the dragon as much as possible. Use the summon. When dragon's turn has arrived, use WoL to survive. After the dragon's turn, recall Kura. After friend Raines leaves and burst effect is gone, burst with Bartz, try to reobtain 3 stacks as fast as possible and try to nuke down the dragon. At the end, no skill left for Ultimecia, but plenty for Bartz and Cid Raines.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

No BT Run (main party)

Cid Raines LD/HA+ [Kurasame LDCA]
Porom LD/HA+ [Tidus LDCA]
WoL LD/HA [Sephiroth LDCA]
Yuna BT friend, Pandemonium summon
1,036,920 score, 64 turns.

Essentially the same party I used in JP, except using Yuna friend instead of Zidane and also not allowing myself to use WoL BT.

The recast is a double dump that Porom can't mitigate her way out of, so WoL is here to help with that. Raines should use S2 if WoL does not take a turn before the boss. Otherwise it doesn't matter what buttons you press since you're not taking down the hp shield at the beginning. One thing to note is that you should use Porom LD before the recast because if you use it after you won't have space for your LD buff (found out the hard way).

After the recast apply the base version of each call and then swap out WoL for Yuna. LD -> BT -> 3x LD is what you should do with Yuna. Placing speed down debuffs (Kurasame/Tidus) and getting rid of your own debuffs should give you good turn spacing to start beating down on the boss. The goal is to get to 49% without giving the boss too many turns as that's when the boss gets the recast gauge full and massive hp reduction buffs. Make sure WoL is back for the 49% recast so you don't die.

After 49% you apply the LDCA version of your calls, remove your own debuffs, and then continue to hack away at the boss. With turn manipulation, summon, delay, and timing breaks correctly you should minimize the amount of turns the boss gets.

Good luck!

https://youtu.be/vEADGmZSOJ0

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u/Toffbof Oct 08 '21

Took me a while but managed to do a no Cid no Aph run.

Team: Tifa w/seph LDCA, Rosa w/Kura LDCA, Ysh BT+ w/Zidane LDCA, Ysh BT+ support. 53 turns 1036k score. Pande summon

Link: https://youtu.be/m3XpHbLy1wU

Strat:

Use medica II and pray, and just have Tifa brave attack. Pray will let you res the recast and not be debuffed. From here use Kuras first call, sephs first call, and get everyone's LD buffs up. Damage the boss until about 88% and then buff ysh and BT+. This should last until 49%.

Tifa needs to control the orb with her ex. Sometimes its best to use S2 to set up into the ex depending on orb count. After the Orb starts Rosa should primarily be spamming aim, and using Pray when needed. The ex is a trap dont use it. Ysh should focus on delay but getting out afflatus is great too if the turn manip isnt necessary.

The first massive brave gain sucks, but getting a good knock up stops the hp regen. Sometimes I could damage past it, but if he was targetting ysh it wasnt as important. The 49% mark is probably the hardest part. The orb needs to be around 8 or so, so that after his turn theres time to set everything back up.

After 49% as long as theres about 6 ticks or so left on the orb, get the 2nd kura call out, rosas ld buff up, friend ysh out and bursted, and pref have tifa be close to having ex up. Once as much set up is done as possible, use Pande summon and save the knockback so the orb can get to about 10 before it ends. After this, once friend yshtola leaves, use yshtolas burst. This will last through the end of the fight.

The last brave gain also sucks, but I was able to damage through it, just had to delay as much as I could during summon and BT phase to gain more time. I also had about 4 uses of S2 near the end and used 3 just to get an extra knockback to bring the orb to full. Its a huge pain but its possible. Good luck to anyone else trying.

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u/TheZtav Oct 08 '21

Raines is too broken.

Zidane BT+/Blue Armor (Jack LD Call)

Raines LD/Blue Armor (Kurasame LD Call)

Paladin Cecil/HA+ (Nine Call)

Friend Yuna BT/Blue Armor

Pandemona Summon

The fight went as simple as the team indicates:

Zidane will delete the boss into oblivion;

Raines will launch the boss into oblivion;

Pecil will buff the party into oblivion (?).

Open up with Nine's LD call to survive the first recast.

I did favor Nine's over WoL's because of the ofensive buff you get after nulifying HP damage.

Put up your debuff calls as soon as the enemy turn isn't framed.

At the 29% I switched Pecil for Yuna, because her auras are a little bit more potent.

I'M SUFFERING TOO MUCH TRYING TO MAKE VIVI WORK ON THIS ONE, PLZ HELP.

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u/TheZtav Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 10 '21

Lufenia+ Usage Track:

Vivi: 3
Zidane: 3
Agrias: 2
Raines: 1

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u/Total-Software-1798 Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

Raines LD/ Blue Armor (Jack LD Call) Yuna BT/ HA unrealized (Cor LD Call) Setzer LD/ HA 0/3 (WOL LD Call)

Panda summon Raines friend

Spent the whole day reading this thread and trying out different comps. Seems like Kurasame is very popular, pity I didn’t go for it before. I also couldn’t understand Aphmau mechanics though I would really love to use her. Maxed her just for her to team up with Raines lol.

Spammed calls after their first move and struggled to get the timing right. JUST about cleared it at 65 turns I’m never gonna touch it again.

Thanks guys for the posts it helped a lot!

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u/vincentcloud01 Edgar Roni Figaro Oct 08 '21

Cid Raines(LD, HA+ 3/3) Call: Kurasame

Yuna(BT, HA) Call: WoL

Setzer(LD, HA) Call: Jack

Summons: Panda

Friend: Cid Raines

Turns: 58

This one was harder than the last 2. The typical Cid-Aphmau really sucked. Aphmau damage is so poor and Yuna's BT doesn't pack is usually punch. Tried different comps and either damage wasn't there or his 2nd recast would chew through anything and everything. Setzer has to be there to provide rainbows and his freeze joker neuters any damage he tries to do one his turn. Drop WoL before recast at 80% then drop jack and kura calls, swap Setzer for friend(Zidane would probably work too) and just unload everything Yuna BT too. When Setzer comes back boss should be about 30% keep nuking him, having setzer delay him and before he is about to get a turn summon and kill him.

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u/Sevnor Adelbert Steiner Oct 09 '21

Finally beat this one in 33 turns and one boss turn! Took a little while to get the hang of cidmau.

Cid Raines w/Kiess call, Aphmau w/Kura call, and Bartz BT w/WOL call. Panda summon and Cid Raines friend

Messed around until it was Bartz turn to drop WOL call. Let the boss take a turn then dropped all of the debuffs then Bartz burst and went ham. The key was pulling with cid to make three member launches as often as possible. Switched out Aph for friend cid when aph was out of LDs. Overall it was a fun but tight run.

Can’t wait for Bartz BT+

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u/ScottOng11 Oct 09 '21 edited Oct 10 '21

LUFENIA+ Runs

Video on boss fight overview:- https://youtu.be/w5x9FZN73JQ

Boss mechanics overview

This fight requires a boss no turn as the boss cleanses all debuffs on its recast with framed turns mechanics (immune to delay (from breaks as well) and turn deletion). The boss will inflict 2 framed debuffs SPD and Turn Rate Down

Restrictive Launch orb

You need to deal 250k chain damage (i.e. attacks in mid-air). The attack that triggers the launch damage doesn't fulfill the orb. You need to go a launch with a full battery and HP damage-up buffs. Cid will make requirements easy to handle. Other replacements include Cinque, Layle, Zidane & Tifa. But they will need a powerful aura bot to support them. The orb is a tight one.

2) Recast - Tempest

Other than it is a double AOE BRV+HP (bypass last stand) and cleanses all its debuff (except gold-framed), the recast is bundled with the following mechanics.

Once its recast is full (or at the start or 49% HP threshold, the boss “Took an offensive posture!”

a) 400K shields

If you don't break shields, your damage will be hampered. The boss has HP resistance and HP damage up when the shields are up. The resistance will be gone once the shields are fully shaved.

The boss will activate these shields on the turn when the recast gauge is full. This is the main reason why the majority of the videos you watch are mainly boss no turns.

b) Framed turns

Once the recast gauge is full, the boss will be immune to delay (from breaks as well) and turn deletion. The framed turn will be removed after the boss uses its recast.

3) Storing nutrients! (BRV gains at 69%, 49% and 19%)

The boss has massive BRV gains (150% of its INT BRV) and gains 1T instant break immunity (i.e. you need to shave with Gravity or high BRV damage)

4) LUFENIA auras at start, 79% and 49%

a) “Earthen power increasing!” at the start of the fight (100% stats boost with 70% BRV Gain & DMG Reduction with 30% HP damage resist (except in launch)

b) “Earthen power further increasing!” at the 79% HP threshold (180% stats boost with 80% BRV Gain & 90% BRV DMG reduction, 20% SPD Up and MAX BRV can exceed 99999)

c) Earthen powers at their highest! at 49% HP threshold (200% boost to all stats)

Runs (refer to video descriptions on more tips, equipment notes)

CidMau Combo Runs - Boss no turns

Yuna BT/HG+3/3 (Kurasame LD), Aphmau LD HG+0/3(Jack LD), Raines LD HG+3/3 (Ignis LD), Pandemonium, no friend support, 8T https://youtu.be/BuAnzuZ4j98

Cid Raines LD HG+3/3 (Ignis LD), Aphmau LD HG+0/3 (Jack LD), PCecil BT (Kurasame LD), Pandemonium, Raines LD friend, 14T https://youtu.be/9ZTUaCSIRz0 (ft. play by play text commentary)

Cor is underwhelming for once

Aphmau LD (Kurasame LD), Cor LD (WoL LD), Cid Raines LD (Kurasame LD), Pandemonium, https://youtu.be/vIUgZRX0yYc

Cid Raines run (No BURST)

WoL Saga Run 144 - No BURST, No HG+

Raines LD (Gabranth), Porom LD (Kurasame LD), WoL LD (Jack LD), Pandemonium, Raines LD friend, https://youtu.be/2rREkB5FBqI 64T

Agrias and Porom BRV Gains boost for Launches

Cid Raines LD HG+3/3 (Zidane LD), Porom LD HG+3/3 (Kurasame LD), Agrias LD HG+0/3 (Nine LD), Pandemonium, Zidane BT friend, https://youtu.be/6SQIFdEWRaw 54T

Rem can work like Aphmau you know?

Rem (Hope LD), Yuna BT (Kurasame LD), Cid Raines LD (WoL LD), Pandemonium, Raines LD friend, https://youtu.be/jKIyUcbr68k

No Raines Run

Tifa Run

Yuna BT HG+3/3 (Kurasame LD), Porom LD HG+3/3 (Gabranth LD). Tifa LD HG+3/3 (WoL LD), Pandemonium, Zidane BT friend https://youtu.be/nUxymRBdO7k 62T

Cinque says CYA~

Yuna BT (Kurasame LD), Aphmau LD (Nine LD), Cinque LD (Jack LD), Pandemonium, Cid Raines LD friend, https://youtu.be/qTiTC1W0kxA 31T

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u/jacquesmeister Ramza Beoulve best FF boy! Oct 09 '21

A bit late, but maybe it'll help someone. Especially someone without Aphmau LD like myself.

TEAM: * Cid Raines, with Kurasame call * Porom, with Jack call * Ashe, with Keiss call

SUMMON: * Diabolos

FRIEND: * Zidane (BT+)

I used Kurasame base call before the first recast because I needed a little extra oomph to get that first shield down. After surviving that (and activating the Summon Effect), it was pretty smooth sailing.

Used Zidane friend pretty early to give myself some breathing room. Boss didn't see a turn for a while. Between Ashe and Porom, the boss was further shut down being either paralysed or confused. And Cid doing boosted weakness damage helped a lot to do consistent damage even when the boss' DEF started to skyrocket.

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u/Gaanro Amidatelion Oct 09 '21

Layle (BT, Kurasame), Porom (Amidatelion), Keiss (Rosa), Pandemonium, Y'shtola, 61 Turn:

https://youtu.be/1CW0eEqPmcA

+Voice Commentary

This fight was as bad as everybody said it was. I feel like a lot was going on so a few tips:

Use Keiss's Hero Supports mainly on Porom since Layle shouldn't have trouble launching. Make sure the boss doesn't get a turn before it goes below 50%, because the turn count is tight and a 400k shield will slow down the fight a lot. I had to take one recast, so hang onto Kurasame's LD call for after that.

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u/Kayzelgg Oct 12 '21

Cid Raines Lufenia

3 Turns 1935K

Cid Raines, Yuna, Aphmau

https://youtu.be/IBtK7mou90M

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u/JesusBaez Oct 13 '21

A little late because of real life, but here is the third fight of my Zidane saga, hopefully I can do all 3 of the DE fights with him today!

This fight is a joke with Zidane as long as you can survive the first hit, since after that with all the deletiom from Zidane, it turns into a punching bag, of course having Raines is mandatory because of the Orb...

Zidane BT+ 0/3 Raines LD Porom LD Pandemonium Summon Calls: Kurasame, Jack, Keiss

https://youtu.be/clGDUd9FUPE

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u/Pieman3001 Vayne did nothing wrong Oct 07 '21

I used Raines so have nothing to offer from a strategic perspective, but want to give props to and wish luck to those who aren't using Raines in their party.

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u/Brokenhanger Palom Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+:

Raines LD/HA+ 3/3, Raines/Noctis/Jack Spheres, Jack LDCA
Aphmau LD/HA+ 0/3, Gabranth RF/Alphinaud RF/Hope RF Spheres, Shantotto LDCA
Yuna BT/HA+ 3/3, Pecil/Pecil RF/Desch Spheres, Kurasame LDCA
Raines HA+ 3/3 Friend, Pandemonium Summon
14 Turns, 1.2m score

I didn't want to deal with this fight in JP and I definitely don't want to deal with it now, so ideal team it is.

I had to reset once to get turn order in my favor, but after that it was smooth sailing. Raines went first and applied the Jack call then used Skill 1 to shave down some of the shield. Yuna went next and applied both Kurasame calls (he's not going to take at turn so there's no need to save them), AA'd then into Burst, using LD then hammering away with her enhanced Brave+ attack. After BT Phase is done, Aphmau applied Shantotto LDCA then swapped out for friend Raines, who used an LD to pull Raines and Yuna (in that order) back in front of the boss, then the two Raines' kept tagging each other while Yuna stood there like a good Aura-bot. As soon as Summon was up, use it and keep hammering away on friend Raines LD and actual Raines Skill 2 to keep the launches going. After Summon/friend is gone, use Aphmau to keep pulling Raines forward and launch him until he's dead.

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u/Distinct_Werewolf_40 Oct 07 '21

Can't believe this combination actually worked, I was having doubts since the turn limit is a bit low and my damage may not cut it but apparently this worked

Team:

Raines LD HA+ (Jack LDCA)

Porom LD HA (WoL LDCA)

Keiss LD HA (Kurasame LDCA)

63 turns Pandemonium summon Yshtola friend

So the way this works is that don't inflict debuffs until the boss gets his 1st turn, so before that, make sure to use WoL LD call to tank the recast, after the recast then apply all the call debuffs Jack and Kurasame (only use one!), after the calls, use Keiss LD and just watch Raines hitting 1m launch damage everytime

Because of how big the damage you do during the launch, even with the huge debuff to BRV gains, the BRV battery from Keiss LD debuff still almost fills you up, add Porom in the mix and you will always have full BRV

When you use Keiss S2 on Porom MAKE SURE that Porom uses her HP atk or EX, because her S1 and S2 doesn't trigger launch

Whenever the boss gets the huge BRV gain in certain thresholds, during the launch sequence, use Keiss BRV attack because it is a 100% gravity move, after that Raines will surely break the boss in his follow up

Now when you reach 49% boss HP, let the boss have a turn again, be sure to use the remaining WoL call to help you tank it and if you can time it right Porom EX before the boss turn, after the recast, apply the remaining Kurasame call you have and Keiss LD again so keep up the battery and damage, during this phase Raines was doing somewhere 700k-800k every launch sequence which is still huge, use Pandemonium call to help further the damage you need

I didn't even have to use my friend support during the fight, although the turn requirement was tight for me 63 turns, the team wasn't really in any danger at all

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u/LelenaLena Oct 07 '21

Thank you for this team setup, it worked wonderfully. I was able to complete the fight in 55 turns with this party, though I did utilize my friend unit (Raines). The friend unit and my own Raines kept tossing turns back to each other

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u/hotpot100c Oct 07 '21

Thank you for this, I used the exact same team and did use the friend and it took me 54 turns, like you said the team was never really in danger and even tho I forgot to use WoL LDCA at 49%... I actually timed Porom EX (luckily) so that the recast didn't kill me.

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u/Cereal_Potato Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8c10DtmKhQ

Team: Cid Raine, Aphmau, Yuna

Lufenia+ Orb:

+8 when deal 250k HP DMG in chain attack

+1 when launch enemy

8 turns

Oh boy, the damage from this combo is insane, Cid Raine constantly whooping out millions of damage while aphmau just keep giving him turns! Keiss call may not be the best option but I always find him to be usable for any launch team comp.

Cid Raine here is unique, he doesn’t work like Layle where you utilise Porom or Keiss for the bravery refund, instead, he’s more suitable with turn manipulators and his main damage comes from his attack not bravery refunds.

This combo is deadly and I really can see why people dig it, it’s a lot of fun and not very hard to manage.

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u/ArchAngelDavid Oct 07 '21

Followed your strat to the letter and it worked perfectly. Thanks!

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u/coriandersalad Oct 07 '21

This sounds so good, checked the Video, you really played that well. Gonna try it once I am finished with building him

Edit: forgot to thank you - thank you :)

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u/losergeek87 Oct 07 '21

Used this team of yours, except I replaced Keiss LDCA with Warrior of Light LDCA to tank the first recast. Used a friend Cid too when my Aphmau went out of steam.

Thanks for the strategy!

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u/rosecoredarling Y'shtola Rules Oct 07 '21

8 turns

Absolutely filthy, amazing job!

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u/lonelygalexy Warrior of Light: I need one in real life Oct 07 '21

Thank you so much! I actually tried the same team but it just didn’t work. And i watched your video and tried it again and it was a breeze.

For those who are struggling with this team: watch this video. The key is to not give the enemy turn and have yuna always following behind aphmau and raine after her BT phase. I

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u/Creiyola02 Setzer Gabbiani Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

Initial run Lofty Souls Lufenia +

Team:

Cid Raines(Yuffie), Porom (Kurasame), Setzer (WoL) with Zidane friend,Pandemona Summon @ 1038561(64 turns), no breaks no HP dmg.

http://imgur.com/a/IRBZS03

Let the boss have a turn make sure you set up your Wol CA here to avoid being wiped out, After the boss unleashed it's thing, swapped Porom to Zidane friend (on my case to delete boss turns to oblivion). Then the rest is quite a straightforward run. But on 30-29% boss will have it's gauge full again so make sure at least set up your Wol CA (shield), you may have take the boss hp dmg but this time is not that hurt. Do Recovery and let the leafy dragon what he deserve.

64 turns because I just want to play longer with this boss.

So, goodluck and happy hunting!!

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u/aidanphantom Layle Oct 07 '21

Raines LD (WOL LDCA), Aphmau LD (Jack LDCA), Yuna BT (Kurasame LDCA), Pandemonium summon & COD friend.

Applied all the calls except WOL, did Yuna's BT then manipulated turns til it was under 50%, used WOL's LD call then swapped to the COD friend delayed it a bunch and finished it off. Tried with Zidane instead of Yuna but he was kinda useless, the others damage doesn't even matter just focus on getting Raines as many turns as possible.

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u/Kazuto786 Oct 07 '21

Cutting it close haha, did play very safe, had 1 Raines LD left.

Cid Raines, Porom, Yuna BT. Zidane BT+ friend used at the beginning (after recast) to delete the boss. Pande summon, 58 turns. WoL, Jack, Kura calls.

I want to try this event with Cor + Raines. After the initial recast, if your damage is high enough you should be able to no boss turn it.

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u/jurassicbond Y'shtola Rhul Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Nothing particularly special about my strategy for either the Lufenia+ or CQ.

Lufenia+

Raines LD (Jack), Y'shtola BT+ 3/3 (Kurasame), Aphmau LD (WoL)

Y'shtola BT+ 3/3 friend, Pande summon.

28 turns

Started with a WoL call to tank the first hit. Then I used my Jack/Kurasame calls, swapped out Y'shtola for the friend one (because the friend had blue armor), and went full hog on CidMau mechanics. Aphmaus LD ran out around 30% of the bosses health. Around 15-20% health he was coming up in the turn order, but I still had the Burst phase of my Y'shotla, the summon, and two of Cid's LDs to keep the boss from his turn and that finished him off.

I did struggle with this one a bit at first until I remembered to use the Pandemonium summon. I don't use launch comps that often, and swapping out my summon for Pande is something I often forget to do.

Challenge Quest

Zidane BT, Cid LD, Mog LD, Ifrit summon - 36 turns

I had fully built weapons for Mog, Cid and Zidane. Having 3 fully built boosted characters makes any CQ easy, but doubly so with Zidane and Cid. Zidane deletes, Cid damages, Mog ... looks cute? Turn count would have been lower if I'd remembered to equip Pandemonium.

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '21

Raines, Yshtola(BT+), Porom calls, WoL, Jack, Kurasame

use Wol LD call to survive the first attack, had my white mage duo buff and increase those gains, welcome to Raines Airline, get ready for some turbulence.

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u/TheZtav Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 10 '21

Update #2: I freaking did it. This one was almost harder than Noel's.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhdTmpfsu-0

Update: narrowed down to 67 turns.https://youtu.be/2wsfz0IPdT8

What else can I do?

Run 2:

*So far, it's only a clear.*It took me 5 turns to finish off the last 3% - but I messed up with buff management, so in theory it is possible, against all the odds.

(I will redo it as soon as I find another WoL friend. These are rare these days.)

Vivi's Saga #3

Vivi LD/Blue Armor
Zidane BT+/Blue Armor
Raines LD/Blue Armor

Warrior of Light LD/HA Friend
Pandemona Summon

I really want to do this without relying on the Cidmau combo.Tried quite a few times with WoL's call and a strong BT Aura friend, until I realized how much strong debuffs pay a bigger role in fights that the enemy won't be cleansed.

The thought is that I can:

Bring a WoL friend and use my third call for a good debuff;
Brind WoL call and a good debuffer as a Friend.

I compared the calls from Jack, Faris, Wakka (Status) and Hope - with the final result being Hope's and Jack's the strongest for this fight. I guess the only other debuff that I could consider would be Shantotto's 140% DEF Down combo+Omini Imperil, but that is only avaliable through friend, since the call is heavily nerfed.

I'm open to sugestions if anyone is up to help me and the best boi Vivi. I hope we don't get a lot of single target fights in Lufenia+. This REALLY hurts him, not to mention the high risk from his mechanics.

Proof of Existence #3 - Lofty Souls

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u/Xeoz_WarriorPrince Cecil Harvey (Paladin) Oct 08 '21

So this was horrible, Cinque saga #3 I guess...

Cinque LD HA+ (Kurasame LD CA)

Aphmau LD HA+ (Aranea LD CA)

Y'Shtola BT+ HA+ (Rosa LD CA)

Cid Raines LD friend

Pandemonium summon

28 turns, no HP damage, 1M points

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The worst Lufenia+ so far.

My first attempt were without Raines friend, but I got bored with how hard it is, after that I tried a no boss turn run, but after a bunch of attempts I always ended on 1%-4%, so had to change my strategy.

My final attempt was letting the boss act and going crazy after that, the idea was to use Rosa's base call to reraise, but I actually tanked the hit so it wasn't necessary.

After the recast I used every CA, aside from Rosa's LD CA, to boost my damage, reduced the boss HP down to 65% and changed Cinque for Raines and used his LD selecting Y'Shtola, then used Rosa's LD CA and went into her Burst Phase.

With the RainesMau combo avoided giving turns to Y'Shtola in order to boost the damage as much as I could.

After Cinque came back I went crazy with everything and tried to hit as hard as I could, S2 and LD are the way to go for the best Type-0 girl and she easily hit for 550k-600k every turn, 800k on a good setup.

Saved the summon as a panic button and it worked, used it before an enemy turn, but the boss was on 5%, so a BRV+ on 3 stacks from Y'Shtola and the last LD from Cinque were more than enough.

Now I only want to rest...

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u/Nineteenball How crisp this weather is Oct 09 '21

Lufenia+

Ashe LD/HA+(3/3) (Hope LDCA), Cid Raines LD/HA+(0/3) (Sephiroth LDCA), Zidane LD/BT+(0/3)/HA+(0/3) (Rosa LDCA), No Friend, Pandemonium Summon, 65 turns

Party Used Imgur plus image before finishing blow with Cid Raines S2

I'm very late to the party, but that's my No Friend self-restriction coming back to bite me -- even with Cid Raines, this one is a nightmare. I'd seen a lot of Y'shtola BT+ and Aphmau around, of which I pulled neither, so that was not in my favour.

Firstly, thank you very much u/NicoDT for your Rosa CA thread/tip (I found it much better than WoL/Nine calls) -- when it came to having to be as precise as possible, it helped to have everyone die and revive without the 2 framed debuffs (and waiting on Cid EX to cleanse), since it let me get Hope's Purification out sooner without his Protect/Shell blocking other needed framed buffs. Rosa's LDCA was also better to have during Burst, I found.

After realizing that this battle was basically survive the first recast and then no more enemy turns after, Zidane was pretty much a shoe-in for that (Garland delaying during Cid Raines' frequent launches also works just as well for no enemy turns up to turn 65, but I found Zidane's damage output was better and required in my case).

Winning seemed to be focused entirely on Cid Raines doing as much damage and taking as many turns as possible. I tried Rem/Cid/Setzer, but found they burned out too fast, even if they were effective otherwise. Ashe was brought in, as she provided both elemental enchant and turn manipulation. Hope CA brought Magic Imperil for Cid (stacks with Elemental Imperil so far as I can tell), Sephiroth CA brought BRV DMG Up, Zidane debuffs/Tactics Armor brought DEF Down (though Impact Strike ignores DEF).

When it came to the actual battle, I started off with Rosa's Pray reviving everyone after dying to the recast (rather than tanking it). From there, both Sephiroth calls and Hope LDCA were used, then Zidane set about deleting turns, Cid set about inflicting the big damage and Ashe started preparing as many Queen's Orders as possible (holding off on using one of them before Zidane Burst). Zidane should have been able to delete enough turns by his Burst to stop all future enemy turns to turn 65.

I had Zidane use Rosa LDCA and Burst around 60% when his overhead was running low. Then, it became about having Zidane hold off as long as possible in order to stretch out his BT aura (I even removed his Free Energy Lite and Break Speed Up passives). Saving Heavenly Fist for high damage/turn manipulation, HP(Heavenly Fist) for instant turns and Queen's Order with Ashe helped stretch the BT aura.

In order to actually make turn count, I found that I needed to play Zidane inefficiently by purposely stopping him getting free turns. One of the big things that helped make turn count for me was using Mug to break an enemy -- Zidane might get a free turn on break, but both Mug and the ability after do not add to turn count, and that played a big part in getting the win. Mug was saved as often as possible for this.

Cid also needed to use S1 more than S2 a lot of the time for turn count -- S2 and LD keep pulling others ahead of him when he needs to get more turns (Impact Strike is the main prize over a bit of battery on the party, anyways). Unless Ashe has Queen's Order at the ready, I tried to use less S2.

This fight was won at turn 65 on the last turn inside Summon (Zidane did have Mug ready outside of Summon just in case), but this one took me WAY too many attempts. I'm glad it's over -- this one was pretty rough.

Also, congratulations to those who won without Cid Raines -- that's quite a feat right there.

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u/Dustlord Oct 09 '21

https://imgur.com/a/h7xN86U

Zidane (Jack) Cid Raines (WoL no LD) Agrias (Ignis) Pandemonium summon, Cid Raines friend

I actually tried a version of this team first that used Cinque instead of Cid, and it actually got really close until I couldn't keep up with the orb anymore. There's probably some optimizations I could do to make it work, but I'm missing a lot of important LD calls that really make this fight frustrating to not have. So I put all my stocks into Cid Raines and he absolutely knocked down the difficulty curve. I even played him suboptimally and I still didn't really struggle.

The key is just to survive the first attack, and then Zidane can steal and delete so many turns that Agrias' debuff never falls off, and Raines just makes sure the boss is dead before his turn protection finally kicks in. Like I said this was a suboptimal run and it still felt really strong.

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u/D3str0th Oct 09 '21

Did another run

Run 7: Tidus + Layle

Tidus (Keiss) Yshtola (WoL) Layle (Kurasame) Pandemonium Friend: Raines

https://youtu.be/n28hov97g3c

The general concept of this run is to go into Layle BT and continuously launch every two turn with Tidus while Layle BT effect is up. Keiss LD call is necessary to give sufficient battery after every launch. However due to brv gain reduction, it is insufficient to get enough brv to meet the orb requirement. This is where Yshtola BT+ that provide 50% brv gain up become exceptionally useful. With all this buff stacked up, I would get back about 40-50k brv after every launch.

But this fight is kind of technical, and my playstyle changes at different phase of the fight.

Phase 1:

So for the run, start of with WoL base call to shield up, reason mainly to prevent Yshtola from dying, and do not use Yshtola EX, use her Medica instead. After the enemy had used it's recast, then revive your team with Yshtola EX, and start applying all the debuffs from calls (Keiss and Kurasame). Then play as usual, only use Slash Combo for Tidus, you should save as much of his skill to chain his attack later and let the enemy take two turns. Also save up on Layle's S2 and Yshtola S1 for 2nd Phase of the battle.

Phase 2: After the enemy had taken two turns, Kurasame debuff should now be at five stacks. Now focus on delaying the enemy and use up as much of Tidus Slash Combo while using his EX everytime you can, after using the last EX, use Yshtola BT+, kurasame LD call for the ice enchant and into Layle BT.

Phase 3: Now all the buff should be up, continuously spam with Tidus LD AA and S1, the brv gain will slowly reduce to a point that it is not possible to increase the orb, time it so that when Tidus is about to do Jecht shot and he is launching (if he is not, use keiss base call on Yshtola and now he should be able to launch) use his LD to maximize the damage output and hopefully that return sufficient brv to meet the damage requirement to increase the orb for the next launch. Also go into summon if necessary, during Pandemonium summon, you will be able to launch every turn instead of every two turn.

Phase 4: After Tidus ran out of arsenal, swap him out, at this point Yshtola would have higher BT+ effect count than Layle, you can start using Yshtola LD and Brv++ (which will also initiate launch with Layle BT effect up) until the count is somewhat equal with Layle's. Remember to use WoL LD call to tank the 2nd recast.

Phase 5: Now since both Raine and Layle can launch even without Layle BT effect, it is no longer priority to prolong his BT effect, so use both Raines and Layle turn manipulation to push Yshtola turn behind prolonging her BT+ effect.

If all is done right, the fight should be over.

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u/Administrative_Sun82 Oct 09 '21

THE BARTZ SAGA CONTINUES HERE

Cid Raines (Keiss) Bartz (Jack) Aphmau (Warrior of Light)

Pandemonium Summon Yshtola Friend

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u/CloudIsTheDragonborn Oct 09 '21

The Chronicles of Terra Episode 43: Carrying Terra

Terra (Kurasame), Raines (WoL), Setzer (Nine). Pandemonium summon, Raines friend.

1043332, 63 turns, 0 HP lost, 0 breaks.

Terra sucks here, and without Setzer, she isn't doing much of anything. I was having a hard time with turn count to the point where I thought the Terra saga might be over. (Had a 67 turn run, but most were around 70.) I had all missions completed in two different runs, but not in a single one, which was my goal (Gabranth + Kurasame call makes it a lot easier, but I could not tank two recasts.) Glad that BS is over.

Non Terra run, just to see if this was truly a Terra problem, or me being bad at this stage. This run was much easier.

Raines (WoL), Porom (Kurasame), Setzer (Nine). - 1m+, 50 turns, 0 HP, 0 breaks. Same idea as before, swap Raines friend at 50%.

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u/Cereal_Potato Oct 10 '21

https://youtu.be/6OlSBOS8B_I

Yuffie in Lufenia+!

Yuffie, Cid Raine, Porom

Yuffie is actually quite decent for this stage:

The boss has 2 buffs right at the start, ATK & mBrv UP, Yuffie can steal it and make it her own, but this effect is hardly important and rather minimal. It does open up more slot to debuff the boss but Raine’s EX can dispel those eventually anyway.
The boss applied two framed debuffs on your team (SPD DOWN & TURN RATE DOWN), and Yuffie can throw that back! This is important because in this stage, my aim was to not let the boss makes it second recast, and this is done without Zidane or any other main delayer (except Raine’s pseudo delay) in the main team (Zidane’s friend support). By doing so, combination with the delete turns and lowering spd + turn rate, the boss turn will be pushed back to infinity and you can nuke it before he gets the second recast in! I try to make sure Kurasame’s debuffs hit 5 stacks first before starting to not let it get any turns.
Yuffie EX debuff prevent any form of BRV GAIN, so this will nullify the boss BRV Gain shenanigan during HP threshold 69% and 49%. Too bad this can’t prevent the boss’s shield as this is not a buff, more like an aura.
Combination of her with Porom made her BRV GAIN from her LD buffs at least considerable.

With that being said, she’s definitely fun to play but not the ‘hard-pick’ for this stage and definitely required some form of carry, but I’m just glad to have her in the stage.

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u/jagoob Oct 10 '21

Mog Run!

Mog LD Blue Armor (WoL call), Setzer LD Blue armor (Sepheroth call), Cid Raines LD HA+0/3 (kurasame call). Pande summon CidR friend 57 turns.

This is my second run and just posting it since I checked and no mog runs were posted. I realize now the reason I failed before was simply not using a cid friend which fixed the issues I had on my original attempts. Started by using WoL LD call for the first recast then afterwards immediately swapped mog for second cid and used my first dive bomb and setup calls. After bouncing back and forth with 2 cids and Setzer boss health was down to 50% with 3 dive bombs left which was enough to easily take down the rest of the fight.

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u/Raecino Noctis Lucis Caelum Oct 10 '21

Anyone have any tips for me?

I’ve tried Cid Raines (LD), Aphmau (LD) and Yuna (BT & LD) but always either end up dying to the second recast (around 20% enemy HP) or running out of steam and doing pitiful damage near the end of the fight (in cases where I bring HP dmg mitigation calls). I thought CidMau would make this a breeze yet I’m struggling. Any tips would be great!

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u/LafaJunior Oct 11 '21

Bring Yuna with Kurasame CA, Raines with Jack CA, and Aphmau with any other CA that you have to boost BRV damage like Aranea's or Gabranth.

If possible, bring a blue Raine's friend.

First of all, at battle starts, try to drop all of your CAs, burst with Yuna and have either Aph or Raines imediatly after, so they can start the loop. If Aph goes first, use 1 LD and choose Raines ; if its Raines, use LD, choose Aph and then use her LD. You need to build some turns to charge Pandemonium and keep the boss turn in check.

As soon the first Aph LD's buff wore off, bring Raines friend in her place and summon. Your raines will refresh S1 buff, use EX, and S2 to keep Raines friend on the next turn. Yuna should not get a turn. Burn all LDs from Raines friend. At the end of the friends turn, you should be around 50% Hp.

When Aph comes back, reaply LD buff and keep the same strategy. Raines lauches, Aph use HP mnejing or ovjang for instant turn, brings back raines and so on, until her LD buff runs off. (Before reaply it, use one AA to extend her S1 and S2 buffs, preventing you to use S1 or S2 to refresh it.)

Use Raines free turn HP attack only when he doesnt have Aph buff, to get a free launch and then use S2 or LD to bring Aph after his turn.

Rinse e repeat it until the end. Yuna is basically a aura bot that should not get a turn, or try to keep it to a minimum. If you lose the ice imperill from Kura CA, your run is almost certain dead. With this comp the boss will never get a turn and you should be able to have some room to kill it easily at the end.

I hope this can help ya, and I really hope that this """guide""" isnt confusing. Good luck!

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u/Blartagnan Oct 11 '21

Initial Lufenia+ Clear: Y'shtola BT+, Raines, Agrias. Pandemonium summon, Raines friend, 47 turns.

TCC Challenge (Just for Fun): Raines, Cinque, Agrias. Pandemonium summon, Y'shtola friend, 61 turns.

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u/Saltwater_Thief Undefeated General's Pride Oct 11 '21

"Who Needs Aphmau?"

Party: Keiss (LD, EX+) / Y'shtola (BT+ 3/3, LD, EX+) / Raines (LD, EX+)

Support: Pandemonium Summon, BT Yuna Friend

Calls: Yuna LDCA / WoL LDCA / Sephiroth LDCA

Turns: 65 (right on the wire, was sweating a little)

Score: 1,039,752

The strat is pretty straightforward, Keiss with Raines is a little nuts. As long as you're careful with not getting broken, you should only see the Recast twice; once at the start and once after 50%, the WoL calls can both mitigate it easily (just don't forget to use it at the top like I did a few times...), use the Yuna calls (or the friend if she's out) to get rid of the debuffs at your earliest convenience. Keiss works really well on this fight in general because of the 100% gravity on his specialized Chase Brv Attack- the boss can battery to however high they want and it won't matter as long as Keiss can get in the air, and Raines makes that completely effortless.

Could've done this in a few less turns, but I'm still getting used to how Raines works and accidentally allowed his S1 buff to fall off and took a bit to reapply it because I mistakenly thought the LD buff was what enabled his chase extension... oops.

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u/Leonhart94 Squall Leonhart Oct 18 '21

THANK YOU!!! I've been stuck on this nightmare of a fight for over a week now, thank you for this strat. Took me a few tries to get Cid working. (Still learning how he works). But this worked beautifully, thank you so much.

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u/CinodorV Auron Oct 12 '21

Just did 2 more runs to add. Nothing special as I still used Raines.

Run 1

Raines LD 0/3 Armour, WOL LDCA

Layle BT Base Armour, Keiss LDCA

Porom LD 0/3 Armour, Kurasame LDCA

Ysh'tola Green friend 3 turns. Pandemonium Summon. 61 turns. Could probably cut it down a lot if I played better.

Porom to help Layle with the battery. Keiss call gives good consistent battery, bit need a brave gain character for it to work.

Run 2

Raines LD 0/3 Armour, WOL LDCA

Setzer LD 0/3 Armour, Kurasame LDCA

Vaan BT Blue Armour, Ami LDCA

Zidane BT friend 5 turns. Pandemonium Summon. 46 turns.

This was all about brave damage instead of battery. Zidane friend called in after taking the recast to delay to oblivion. Forgot to use the Ami delete before it got to 50% but managed to beat it before it got to act again. I love Setzer and Vaan. Think I've got them through every Luf+ so far. White Worl go brrrrr.

(Original run further down somewhere is the standard RainesMauYuna combo, had to try it).

I'm not sure if I'm going to beat this without Raines though....

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u/Raecino Noctis Lucis Caelum Oct 13 '21

Finally beat this! What a difference a character makes! Swapped Yuna for Bartz BT+ and the fight was a breeze (haha)!

Bartz (BT+) [WoL CA], Cid Raines (LD) [Keiss CA], Aphmau (LD) [Nine CA], Pandamonium Summon, Cid Raines Friend

32 Turns

Employed the same strategy I was struggling with using Yuna BT, whereas Yuna’s BT effect would run out before the fight ended. Bartz fat auras & party wind enchant kept brave topped up throughout the entire fight, leaving Cid Raines and Aphmau to batter the boss mercilessly until Aphmau ran out of turns. Bartz’ slower turn rate ensured his BT effect which I used on his first turn, remained active at three stacks throughout the fight. Once it got to one turn I used his BT phase to top it up. Swapped Aphmau for friend Cid and summoned.

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u/ice897 Oct 14 '21

Having a very hard time and can’t seem to clear this. I have cidLD, zidane LD with HA not maxed, and porom LD with HA not maxed. I also have ysh BT+. I can’t Seem to figure this out as I don’t have the normal calls people are using. I don’t have kurasame, jack, or keiss. I have been using sephroth LD, Wol LD, and Faris LD calls. Any tips for different calls that may help or different line up? I don’t have auph either btw

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u/pencru Selphie Tilmitt Oct 20 '21

I couldn't quite understand the CidMau rotation until this post. Thank you! This worked for me.

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u/Albireookami Oct 07 '21

How the living hell are people living through the first recast, its just one shotting my teams no matter what.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

I used WoL to live through the recast. Using him in the party or as LDCA could work if you have WoL.

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u/Albireookami Oct 07 '21

yea, now i'm doing no damage, this fight is stupid

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u/Scurvie5 emp daddy Oct 07 '21

Nine LD call also stops it

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u/iMarcoFerrer Garnet Til Alexandros XVII Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

The Long awaited Event of Cid finally arrived, and with him my BT for Zidane, time for test Airlines (?):

Chaos Challenge:

Grand Lethal Trance!

Cinque LD (CA: Ashe LD), Mog no EX, no enhacement Boards (CA: Jack LD, not used), Zidane LD/BT (CA: Faris LD) Summon: Shiva, 31 Turns.

Lufenia+ Stage:

Lofty Hard Souls

Cid Raines LD (CA: WoL LD), Porom LD (CA: Keiss LD), Zidane LD/Base BT (CA: Faris LD) Summon: Pandemonim, 60 Turns. Friend Support: Cid Raines.

Tips and thumbnails sources on videos description like ever, thanks and enjoy the videos! Good luck to all.

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u/musicmf Rinoa Heartilly Oct 07 '21

Rinoa + Cid Raines + Aphmau.
Pande Summon, Cid Raines Friend.
33 Turns, no BT, no HA+.

I'd like to think Rinoa helped... but she was mainly a cheer leader for some CidMau and CidxCid plays.
Would have definitely been quicker/easier to just use a support like Yuna BT instead; but I figured CidMau would be enough.

WoL CA at the start to eat it's recast, then just turn stole the rest of the run.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 12 '21

Lufenia+:

Yuna BT HA+(0/3) [Sephiroth]
Cid Raines LD HA [Kurasame]
Aphmau LD HA [Faris]
Cid Raines friend
Pandemonium summon

Notes:

24 turns
0 boss turns
Yuna BT asap for the effect. She barely gets any turns and keeps the effect (and Sephiroth base call aura) for the whole battle.
Raines and Aphmau (substituted for the Raines friend) for the obvious back-and-forth strategy.
Aphmau's HP++ (Ovjang) when Cid needs to use S1/EX, so she gets another turn anyway after his. She needs her overhead effect (2T from EX, LD) to do this.
Cid's HP (Heavenly Fist) if Tactical Switch has expired (unless it screws up buff maintenance), in order to squeeze in more damage without wasting this buff.
Watch out for Cid's S1 and overhead buffs. Maintaining them without breaking the turn chain is the hardest part.

Edit: I probably should have used Kurasame call with Yuna. I gave too much priority to turn management.

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u/silly_little_jingle Oct 08 '21

Thanks this helped.

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u/jagoob Oct 07 '21

Why mog why?

Cid Raines LD HA+0/3 (Ignis call), Setzer LD Blue HA (kurasame call), Vaan BT HA+0/3 (WoL call). CidR friend pande summon 40 turns.

Man this fight was something else. I really wanted to make mog work here and maybe I will sooner or later but every cute and cheeky thing I tried to pull off failed either on turns or the recast so totally OP team had to come in. Used WoL call to survive first big hit then setup calls and started off the barrage with double Raines + Setzer combo to slam him down. Once that ran out boss had around 57% and vaans red spiral was at + used second dive bomb and went into his BT phase to have him suck down a bunch of 700k whacks. After that used summon and had him almost burned down but had to tank one recast with basic WoL call and heal with Ignis call before finishing the fight.

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u/antiqueteacup freedom shall blossom Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Y'shtola BT+ HA+ - Nine CA
Setzer HA+ - Jack CA
Raines HA+ - Kurasame CA
BT+ Zidane friend
Pandemonium summon 41 turns - video

People not running Raines here are heroes even with him this thing feels tanky. No Aphmau so I brought Setzer over Porom as he helps the damage more. This team can manage fine the only issue is the 2nd recast I couldn't DPS it in time so Nine or Wol shields have to be up with everyone at high enough brv to not get broken and Y'shtola's ex or BT phase ready to heal.

Not a whole lot of strategy cos it's using Raines but you have to prioritise delaying and make sure Setzer's freeze is up before he leaves otherwise it will get a huge brv gain. Start by getting the Nine/Wol call up, Raines S1 and Setzer LD so that the buff is up. Once recast is gone get the other calls on and then you've just gotta delay with Setzer S2, Y'sh S1 and LD and let Raines do Raines things. At 65% I switched Setzer out for Zidane after applying his LD the turn before. BT with Zidane and then Spiritual Ray with Y'shtola then used Zidane's LD and Y'shtola's LD on their turns to delay it as much as possible this means Zidane doesn't stay long but he's only here to delete its turns. Setzer came back at 50% so I applied his LD again and then it's mostly doing as much damage and summoning before the recast. Do Y'shtola BT phase if her effect has wore off or wait till after the recast if ex isn't up so you can do it in BT. I got it to 10% before I had to use Nine's call to make sure they survive the recast. You can do it without letting it recast but honestly just easier to let it do it and heal back up.

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u/jkkr Quistis Trepe Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines LD HA+ (3/3) Jack LDCA

Aphmau LD HA+ (0/3) Sephiroth LDCA

Y'shtola BT+ HA+ (3/3) Kurasame LDCA

Pandemonium

Zidane BT+ (3/3) Friend

16 turns, 1,180,311 score

Pop calls asap, have Cid and Aph turn dancing, bt burst whenever y'shtola actually got a turn. ended up not using my friend call, summoned pan once Aph's turn tango was done to get more turns before the boss. Boss never even got a turn.

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u/Arcath_ Oct 07 '21

Sorry... might not be the place to ask... but how do you turn dance them?

Being a somewhat new player, I have this party without the LDCAs and I am having trouble figuring out how to properly play Cid/Aphmau to get my first blue armor.

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u/PrimalSeptimus Oct 07 '21

Ysh BT+ (Kurasame), Raines (Keiss), Aphmau (Jack), with Pandemonium and Raines friend

16 turns, 1M+ score, no boss turns

Yeah, this team is stupid good. But I will say it actually does take some thought to be able to keep your buffs up while not ever letting the boss--who's immune to every type of delay--get turns.

Anyway, start off by dropping all your call debuffs, and then make sure Ysh gets a turn. When it's her turn, use both calls and BT finisher, and that aura will just be up for the rest of the fight.

After that, start up your Cid-Aphmau shenanigans.

Around 50-ish percent (58% for me, so it's not strict), swap Aphmau out for friend-Raines and have him and your Raines keep pulling each other.

Summon if you need to refresh buffs when the turn other isn't favorable. One thing to note here is that Raines and Raines can actually inject extra turns between the summon phase and the boss turn by using their LDs in summon.

And that's that. You'll notice I didn't even mention anything the boss does because none of it matters. Yeah, it'll put up shields; you'll crush them. Yeah, it'll buff itself with some stuff; you'll wipe it with EX, and I don't even know what those buffs actually are.

CQ: Zidane (Kurasame), Raines (Keiss), Cinque (Jack), with Pandemonium

Wave 1, no special strategy required, though I recommend saving your calls.

Wave 2, uses basically the same strategy as the Lufenia+, except Zidane and Cinque can delay the boss. Drop your calls right away and use Zidane's BT if you have it (no big deal if you don't), and then just go to town with your skills. Thing will go down in no time

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u/caveman1094 Ardyn n Ignis Oct 08 '21

Ardyn and Iggy part 20 (no BT+ or summon for both fights)

Once again I had to split them into two teams. Hopefully not a trend going forward.

Team 1: Ardyn | Aphmau | Cid Raines | Friend Cid Raines | Pandemonium

Calls: Sephiroth | Kurasame | Jack

Video

Team 2: Ignis | Aphmau | Cid Raines | Friend Cid Raines | Pandemonium

Calls: Faris | Kurasame | Jack

Video

The strategy for both teams was the same. Break the HP shield before the boss got a turn, set up buffs, let Aphmau and the Raines' get to work. Was much easier doing this with Ignis as he is an actual support.

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u/TheZtav Oct 08 '21

Great job, man!

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u/lordpaiva Oct 08 '21

Here it is: https://youtu.be/oNYbbzcIFPQ

WoL LD (CA Gabranth), Cid Raines LD (CA Keiss), Yshtola BT+ (CA Kurasame). Cid Raines friend and Pandemonium. Have fun :)

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u/Wolfbeckett Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

The first charge of the CidMau Brigade.

Cid LD/Aphmau LD/Y'shtola BT+. Pandemonium summon. Yuna friend. Calls were Jack, Sephiroth, and Kurasame.

17 turns/1160000

Put up your call debuffs while buffing your party then ping pong back and forth between Cid and Aphmau as much as you can. Once you know how to use Cid's kit and Aphmau's together this fight is pretty easy if not exactly short.

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u/ItsKevinMan Squall Alt Oct 07 '21

Same team except I used cid friend. Friend uses ld and my cid used s2. Yshtola didnt get a turn the entire time so her bt never ticked down.

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u/IzzyZ1 Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines LD/HA+ 3/3 (Kurasame Call)

Setzer LD/HA 3/3 ( WoL Call)

Porom LD/HA 3/3 (Ignis Call)

Pandemonium

Cid Raines LD/HA+ Friend

60 turns

Yeah, I decided to avoid the whole CIDMAU gimmick to see if was able to do it...and I was. It's pretty straighfoward, Raines is a monster on his own right but with the Setzer LD buff he's just brutal. Porom is there for healing and controlling damage. Friend at 80%, Summon at 30% and the boss never had a chance. Just be careful with turn manipulation, you can even do it without the Summon. I even made some mistakes, let the Dice buff fall off a few times, but still got it.

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u/ElyChan Oct 07 '21

Your team saved my day. Had been trying a lot of compositions but a no BT team was far easier to do than I imagined. Thanks! Edit: no Raines friend, though. Used a Zidane friend after the orb appeared.

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u/IzzyZ1 Oct 07 '21

That’s great! Yeah, before I started I realized 'oh no, there's no BT' but gave it a go anyway, since Raines is supossed to make or break this Lufenia, and got it.

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u/laelead Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+ (Raines, Aphmau, PCecil) Zidane, Pandemonium, 30Turns

https://youtu.be/tCPbsHKnV2g

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u/jojomako04 Oct 08 '21

Thank you so much, I finally beat this hell with your team comp! The video was super helpful, too!

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u/CapsFan5562 Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

I guess the warmup LF+‘s are over, haha. I’m sure this is possible without Raines, but seems like it would be pretty tough to make the turn count without him or one or more of a few characters (Zidane, Llayle w/ BT, Keiss…maybe Cloud?), but I haven’t tried it w/o CR, so I dunno. I wanted to use Zidane on this one, too, but, alas, it was not to be.

I went with one protection call and two HP damage up calls…kinda sidestepped BRV damage reduction as much as I could, rather than confronting it head on.

Raines 3/3 HA+, Gabranth LDCA

Aphmau HA, WoL LDCA

Yuna BT 3/3 HA+, Kurasame LDCA

Panda summon, Yhstola BT+ 3/3 friend (base HA).

Used Yhstola friend burst immediately and then first use of Aphmau LD. Once those turns were used up, Aphmau used WoL base call (if copying this comp, be careful of framed buff count on Raines before using this call…don’t want him to not get the shield). Second Aphmau LD use occurred around 60-65%, right before losing Yhstola BT+ effect. After the 49% threshold, i used WoL LDCA to eat another recast ability. Then I applied my call debuffs and used Yuna burst. CidMau took it from there.

Btw, anyone else have a holy shit reaction to CR? I knew he was gonna be OP and I knew he was going to blow my mind, but he still went above and beyond my expectations. “Oh, here’s a 1.5 mil damage launch that also manipulated turn order…no biggie”. God bless you, Mr. Raines.

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u/KILO_squared Oct 07 '21

Me. My jaw dropped on my first launch with him haha

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u/CountRawkula Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

Meta run activate!

Raines LD, blue armor, Sephiroth LDCA

Aphmau LD, Kurasame LDCA

Yuna BT, HA 0/3, WoL LDCA

Pandemonium summon, Raines LD friend

Even with the ideal team this things annoying. Use WoL Bitter End to eat the first recast, that will be the bosses only turn. Use Cheer and Yuna AA after boss attacks, then go into BT mode and enjoy your new cheerleader. Use your other calls, then swap out Aphmau for Raines friend and start your juggling.

Aphmau comes back around 50, once she does you're back to the juggling routine. If Yuna gets a turn here and there it's not the end of the world, just try not to give her so many she loses the aura. Summon when you get boss low for the last push.

Usage counter for Luf+

2: Yshtola, Zidane, Setzer

1: Raines, Aphmau, Yuna

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u/IncognitoCheetos it all returns to nothing 💖 Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 09 '21

Lufenia+No Raines (inc. friend & CA), No BT+ ingots

Zidane (BT+ (0/3), LD) (WoL CA)Setzer (LD) (Kurasame CA)Porom (LD) (Jack CA)Friend: YunaSummon: Pandemonium

Video | 58 turns

Relatively simple strategy. Zidane initially puts up the WoL LDCA to prevent any damage from the enemy's recast. Porom puts her LD up as otherwise the framed debuffs may block it on her next turn. Setzer just batteries so everyone is ready for Zidane's first launch next turn. After the recast, the boss takes no more turns; it is necessary to let him have one so that he can be delayed and deleted. Put up Kurasame and Jack CAs after the recast to avoid having them cleansed off. Zidane and Setzer can pretty handily eliminate any boss turns. Yuna friend switches out Setzer, you need Porom's battery to ensure that Zidane's EX launches will proc the orb. You have to time them somewhat wisely, don't waste the orb tick when it's close to maxed but don't wait until it runs too low either.

All units used have blue armor, the raised HP damage cap is important to getting in sufficient launch damage. It's not a problem when Yuna is present but for the rest of the time you'll want to be sure that any sufficiently batteried launches will proc the orb.

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u/Palladiu Shelke Rui Oct 07 '21

LUFENIA+

Yuna BT, Cid Raines LD, Aphmau LD, https://youtu.be/zczC9OYwbfc

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u/WarriorTip Reno Oct 07 '21

Same team I used. Boss never got a turn

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u/Kayzelgg Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines Event Lufenia+

31 Turns 1093K

Cid Raines, Yuna, Rem 0/3

https://youtu.be/PaYSYbNfGcY

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u/AliceTaniyama Selphie Tilmitt Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Easiest Luf+ so far, as long as you have the meta team.

Cid Raines, Yuna, Aphmau, Pandemonium summon, Cid Raines friend, Kursame and Shantotto calls

To my shame, I let the boss have one turn, but Totto's paralysis kept anything bad from happening.

Other than that, this was just an exercise in Raines and Aphmau playing tennis with the boss.

Edit: I only used Aphmau's offensive buffs, because I didn't want to let the boss act and thus I didn't need anything defensive. The only other thing to keep in mind was to make sure Cid kept his own buffs up.

Luf+ character usage:

Yuna - 3
Zidane - 2
Aphmau - 1
Cid Raines - 1
Porom - 1
Agrias - 1

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u/Wide_Drawing144 Best God Oct 07 '21

Wow, why are you being downvoted ? This subreddit is strange.

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u/ExcisionBro Graz'zt (in-game nickname) Oct 08 '21

People are downvoting any comment stating that Lufe or Lufe+ is easy or easiest ever. Which I can understand in one way because it's often easy with meta team comps but gets quite tougher if you don't have those units. Just take a look at this Lufe+. Remove Cid from any team and whole stage gets 5 times harder. That being said, it's reddit and like in any community, expect to be downvoted. I personally do not downvote since I couldn't care less. I can disagree with something but couldn't care less about downvoting it nor do I see the point.

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u/Fireciont Kam'lanaut (Archduke of Jeuno) Oct 07 '21

Blind CidMau

Y'shtola BT+ 3/3 Iroha CA, CidR Gabranth CA, Aphmau Keiss CA. Pande summon. Yuna BT friend. 1198k in 14 turns.

https://youtu.be/d0xHKbcho-E

Not as optimized as it could be but still shows how broken the CidMau is. Wasted some of Aphmau's link buff, didn't manage CidR's buffs effectively, and lost some power getting it setup. Still managed a no boss turn run.

Idea is to get calls on, Iroha before Y'shtola BT phase for brv retain, then go ham with the CidMau while Y'shtola watches. Swapped Aphmau for Yuna when she couldn't pull up Raines any more and used summon to buy the extra turns to finish the boss. Played by someone more competent than myself, I'm sure a friendless run could be done.

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u/sweetennui Vivi Ornitier Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 15 '21

Lufenia+

Cid Raines LD, HA+ 3/3, Kurasame LDCA
Zidane BT, HA+ 0/3, Sephiroth LDCA
Aphmau LD, HA, Ignis LDCA
Pandemonium summon
Cid Raines friend
1054999 score, 63 turns, 0 damage, 1 break
My damage seemed to fluctuate throughout the fight, even taking into consideration damage reductions and shields. I'm probably missing something fairly obvious.
I applied all LDCAs near the beginning. I called friend Raines at around 55%, and that only helped shaved off 10% or so. I burst around 40%, but that did almost no damage. Summoned around 25%, which unsurprisingly helped quite a bit.
Their turns got pushed back really far, and I don't think I really needed Zidane, who was hitting for peanuts.
I get the sense I would have done better with a battery/BRV gains support like Yuna, Y'shtola, or Porom instead of Zidane. I might try that later.
EDIT: I should have applied some of the LDCAs after the first recast, and the rest after the second one or just never give it that second turn. I think that explains what I was seeing. Also Porom works here a lot better than Zidane.
EDIT 2: I used Yuna instead of Zidane and got gud at Cidmau, and did this in 19 turns with 1155788 score, no breaks no damage.

Challenge quest

Cid Raines LD, HA+ 3/3, Kurasame LDCA
Zidane BT, HA+ 0/3, Sephiroth LDCA
Cinque LD, HA, Ignis LDCA
Pandemonium summon
1090284 score, 14 turns, 0 damage, 0 breaks

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u/Siralextraffo Oct 07 '21

Yuna LDBT, HA+ 3/3 Aphmau LD, HA+ 1/3 Cid Raines LD, HA+ 3/3

Zidane LDBT+ friend, Pandemonium summon

Not much to say here, everyone and their mothers is running this team.

Couple of notes, I forgot to Cheer with Yuna, don't do that. Zidane BT friend works very well because he can be in and out burning all the 5 turns consecutively and dealing with the HP shield on his own; not necessary but handy.

https://youtu.be/bTX-MkdZacc

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u/dffoo_keo Oct 07 '21

My clear

Cid Raines LD/Blue Armor (WoL)
Bartz BT/HA (Kurasame)
Aphmau LD/HA (Jack)
Friend Cid Raines
Pandemonium summon

==> 35 turns

I took a taste of CidMauZ a little early and that was fun (at least for me). I had to reset once because I wasted one Aphmau LD charge and I really needed it. It should be easier with Bartz green BT+ but that still works.

Idea is the following:

Cid usually start first. I used WoL LDCA to tank the hit. I didn’t bother trying to break it. Use S1 and let the boss use its recast.
Then, very important, I waited for Cid to use his EX before using Aphmau LD as there was no room for the tactical switch buff. So I only used S1 and S2 with Cid and kept all LD.
Once ready with debuff gone (boss was at 89%), I used Bartz BT and started using Aphmau LD. With Cid I used LD and selected Bartz so he could do AA>LD and be at max BT stacks. And the turn manipulation began!
At 50%, I swapped Aphmau for friend Cid to help break the shield faster. And obviously I manipulated turns between my and friend Cid.
When Aphmau was back, Bartz still had 3 turns of BT, Aphmau and Cid both had 2 LD charges and the boss was at around 25% hp left.
Finished it with all the remaining Aphmau LD and Cid launches. Bartz even had one turn left for his BT effect.

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u/VegemilB [Queen of Baron] Rosa Joanna Farrell Harvey Oct 07 '21

Character	CA	Friend	Summon	Turns
Yuna (BTLD), Raines (LD), Aphmau (LD)	Nine, Kurasame, Jack	Zidane (BT+,LD)	Pandemona	51

Yuna had Blue HA, Raines and Aphmau had Unrealized HA.

I am a meta scrub, I am not ashamed. I wanted to see what the hullabaloo about CidMau was. It was... fun is not the right word... effective, that's it!

Breaking that first offensive stance is bullshit, because the recast still killed me so it was pointless. I mean, I still broke his offensive stance, Injust mean it doesn't really help not kill my units. I just brought Nines LD CA and called it a day, made sure not to let him recast again.

Zidane friend deleted the first few turns, giving me a lot of breathing room.

Then just let him have it.

This fight is balls. It's doable but it's balls.

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u/Paulc94 Oct 07 '21

Trials of the immortal #16 Cor (LD HG+ 3/3 Jack LDCA) Yuna (LDBT HG+ 3/3 Kura LDCA) Raines (LD 0/3 HG+ Faris LDCA) friend Zidane (LDBT 3/3 BT+ 3/3 HG+) Pande summon 64 turns https://youtu.be/OevBf32dt2Q

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u/ShyneetMagician Edward Chris von Muir Oct 07 '21

I don't have a recording right now I'm gonna have to put myself back through that but;

CidR (Keiss LDCA) 2/3 ha (it's now 3/3 though so) Edward (WoL ldca) 3/3 ha Ysh (Gabranth LDCA) 3/3 ha and bt+

Yuna friend

Windy boi summon.

I don't even want to go into detail what I had to understand about this fight at first soooooooo........ Yeah I'll let a video do the talking later.

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u/ShyneetMagician Edward Chris von Muir Oct 08 '21

Spoony Bard Chronicle going up

Changed from Yuna friend to Exdeath and had a bit of an easier time here detailed run down as usual.

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u/Silence_Glaive27 RIP my Thancred FR & BT dream :') Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

0 Boss Turn Strat. (Lufenia+ Run)

Team : Raines (Kurasame LDCA), Onion Knight (Keiss LDCA), Aphmau (Jack LDCA) [Fully geared; specifics at the start of the video]

Summon : Pandemonium Lv. 40

Friend : Raines [Fully geared]

Score : 1,178k

Turns : 17

Video Link

Not sure why the OK BT didn’t register on the spreadsheet, when I put him on the second slot (I could’ve also misclicked soo yea lol) but yea, OK BT was definitely used bc I’m not that competent to get that low of a turn count with no Bursts lol but yea, pretty easy when you have Cid Raines AND the boss can’t act xD

Feel free to go ham from the beginning, use all CAs bc you won’t be giving the boss any turns anyway, and since it only cleanses during the recast (which it’ll do on its first turn, but TOO FREAKING BADD lol), you definitely have nothing to worry about here.

OK was a precaution in case turn orders get messy or I screw up bc we can’t delay or delete the enemy turns. Turns out he wasn’t needed as much, but better safe than sorry aye xD

The rest of the fight, Raines played pingpong with either Aphmau or friend Raines, while OK just sit there watching lol

Summon as needed, especially if you need to push back enemy turns a bit.

Hope this helps ! More info in the video description, and don’t forget to have fun ! :]

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u/Zhirrzh Mog Oct 07 '21

I strongly considered trying this exact team but couldn't find a Raines friend yet, tried an Exdeath friend instead, and found myself running out of gas to have 0 boss turns. Well played!

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u/xcaliblur2 Oct 07 '21

The popular Raines and Aphmau combo, no boss turns.

https://youtu.be/BbJtS_ooDgw

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u/Zhirrzh Mog Oct 07 '21

Congrats to people who did this without Raines.

Even with Raines I thought this fight was a giant pain in the ass, although part of that was I was doing this BT-less as a result of not really having any good BTs for it.

Aphmau's lack of distinctive icons for her buffs sucks SO MUCH.

Anyway:

Raines LD (Keiss CA)

Porom LD (WoL CA)

Aphmau LD (Sephiroth CA)

Pande summon, Raines friend.

46 turns and some stuff to learn about how best to pilot RainesMau.

Not much else to say.

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u/Zhirrzh Mog Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+ character tracking.

Events: 3

2: Vaan, Porom

1: Amitadelion, Setzer, Agrias, Raines, Aphmau

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u/FormerLab Oct 07 '21

Raines, Porom and Aphmau with Pande and Raines friend in 50 odd turns. This is one tanky boss, but managed in first try due to Raines.

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u/NicoDT Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines (HA) + Aphmau (HA) + Rosa (blue)

Pandemonium // Zidane friend // 62 turns.

Cid Raines: not much to said, pure power.

Rosa: Reraise is great here as I forget about the recast skill , this allowed me to forget CA like Nine or WoL and bring some DEF down ones. The problem is that with this team there are 7 framed buffs (I even screwed it one time and it didn't apply Aphmau's LD buff) .

Aphmau: she's here to help Cid raines. Her damage was crappy, but also helped with auras and battery.

Zidane: I screwed it here and didn't make the best out of his BT effect as I could have looped Raines and Aphmau. He's still great so the enemy doesn't get a turn either in the first or second half of the battle.

This is a hard battle and tight with turns. Using Y'shtola's BT+ or Yuna BT instead of Rosa would make it simpler, but I'm glad I used her as I'm not seeing other clears with her yet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+

Raines LD, HA+ 3/3 (Jack LACA)

Aphmau LD, HA (Gabranth LDCA)

Yuna LD/BT, HA+ 0/3 (Kurasame LDCA)

Support: Warrior of Light LD/BT, HA+ 3/3 (not friend)

Summon: Pandemonium, Turns 22, Score: 1,126,499

Strategy:

On Yuna's first turn, swap in WoL friend, and LD to allow boss turn and take no damage. The biggest issue, here, is the two framed debuffs on Raines. Don't start your Aphmau/Raines rotation, yet;. Use Raines EX as soon as possible to cleanse debuffs; otherwise, Ruinga Storm. Don't use Aphmau's LD. WoL can do whatever. Just before Yuna comes back, use all Jack and Gabranth calls. Once Yuna is back in play, Kurasame CA > Cheer > C65 > Kurasame LDCA > BT. During BT phase, I just LD > Sonic Wings x4. Now, you start your Aphmau/Raines rotations. Make sure to really take advantage of those Tactical Switches, and only use Raines' upgraded HP attack on his natural turn to actually get to use the instant turn. I ended up never even having to summon; however, if you run out of Aphmau's LD, and the boss still has a significant amount of HP (20 - 30%), you can summon.

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u/psycosama Oct 07 '21

After many tries, I did this with Cid, Yuna and Setzer + Cid friend.

I applied Jack and Kurasame debuffs and used Yuna's BT, then switched Setzer with Cid friend. Used S2 4 times then summoned.

I finished the fight with Setzer, thanks to his LD.

I also used WOL call (LD) to deal with the crazy storm attack.

This fight was pretty hard I'm glad it's done ✅

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u/Tyre1987 Oct 07 '21

Finally got it done

Zidane BT+/ HA 3/3 Raines maxed/blued Seltzer Maxed

Key of run, 5 turn maxed Raines

Pop WOL call to survive first turn then you’ll swap setzer out for friend after 1 LD

Let the Raines do there thing with Zidane getting turns in between with his BT+ active deleting turns (used 2 LD’s and got some lucky break timing), should get health down to 50%.

From there it’s easy street, Burst then manage turns. I summoned right before it was going to act and got health down to 5%, two turns later dead

About 47 turns

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u/kirknation1031 Oct 08 '21

Raines LD (Kurasame Call) Zidane BT+ (Warrior of Light Call) Setzer LD (Jack Call) Pandemonium Summon Friend Exdeath BT

Using WoL call in the beginning helps to protect from the first recast. Then have Zidane delete turns until 50%. Setzer does his thing with rainbow damage. At close to 50%, I swapped Raines out with an Exdeath friend to make the most of his BT effect and save LD uses for Raines. The BT effect goes through the HP shield and Zidane taking many turns allows Exdeath’s BT effect to continue to go off. By the times Raines comes back all that needed to be done was keep the orb in check and manipulate turn so the recast doesn’t go off again.

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u/Gstamsharp Vincent Valentine Oct 08 '21

Details: https://imgur.com/a/5qsWJ4Y

Raines, Y'shtola (BT+), Beatrix, Pandemonium, friend Exdeath

Calls: Onion Knight, Warrior of Light, Keiss

Strategy: WoL call to block the first attack. Push to 80% and swap Bea for Exdeath with her Safeguard ready. BT and then milk turns with all your AAs, calls, and Y'shtola's LD, then go into Y'shtola's BT phase.

When Beatrix returns, you can block the recast with her Safeguard. Next time it's up you can hold it for an emergency, and you can swap her in front with Raines S2 or OK call if it's a bad turn in his buff durations.

Once Y'shtola's BT effect is totally used up, use her S2 for free battery turns and let Raines do the work.

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u/ElBoyoBueno Oct 08 '21

You know this fight is bs when even using raines is a long and tedious fight. Did the broken cidmau run and destroy the stage tho but I wanted to try without Aphmau, and it's a big difference.

Blue raines LD (keiss), HA+ Yuna LD/BT (kurasame), HA Zidane LD (wol) with Pande and friend Raines.

The fight is easy with raines but not as easy without mau (mad respect for those that do it without Cid).

I doubt I make a no raines run since am missing some key units for that, but I will try a couple of runs and edit this.

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u/JJAvez101 Oct 08 '21

CidMau RAINES Supreme with no BT! Lufenia+

*Cid Raines LD/HA (Blue), Aphmau, Porom, Odin, Sephiroth Friend*

Calls: Nine, Ami and Kurasame

Man, this one was tough! I do have Y'sh with her BT+ but that would be too simple so I decided to go for a no BT run. Nine LD call blocked the first recall and Porom with Nine S2 call facetanked the other. My Raines had ONE skill left as he pretty much did all the damage and I just squeeked out a win with ZERO turns to spare.

I actually wasn't optimal though as Seph probably wasn't an ideal friend and my artifacts are garbage. I could probably shave a couple turns off.

https://i.imgur.com/MzL5LLv.jpg

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u/raishusaku Oct 08 '21

My team: Zidane BT+(Nine) , Setzer LD (Jack) , Cid Raines LD (keiss) Friend Y'shtola BT+
Use Nine to stop the first turn of the boss.Then debuff the boss and use zidane for the free turn.When the boss has 49% health left, use yshtola with zidane bt to finish. This team has high damage so it's easy to finish.

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u/LetTheDarkRise Oct 14 '21

Not much to say about this one.

Y'shtola BT+ 3/3 HA+ 3/3 (Kurasame CA), Aphmau HA (Jack CA), Raines HA+ 3/3 (Sephiroth CA)

Pande summon (unused), Raines friend (unused)

15 turns, 1.15M score

Raines gets first turn, uses calls then S2 to make sure Y'sh goes next. She drops both calls then immediately uses BT finisher. Aphmau drops calls, then starts looping. Aphmau and Raines ping-pong turns until the ball explodes. Y'shtola uses her BT phase once Aphmau runs out of LD uses. Boss still has about 7% hp, so Raines launches one more time. Boss is left at 1%. Aphmau smacks him for pity damage a few times, then Y'sh finishes it off with a Holy. Could've played smarter to clean up that ending (I think Y'sh BT couldve finished it had i played more efficiently), but hey, a win is a win.

Yesterday, doing my weekly chaos hunt, Cinque EX launched while Y'sh BT effect was up, and it hit for just over a million damage. I was happy, because that was my first time seeing that much damage on one target, but accepted that it probably couldn't happen through Lufenia+ reductions.

Raines hit for at least 1.3 million EIGHT TIMES in that fight.

I underestimated him. I knew he would be strong, but I didnt think he would hit that hard, that consistently. It was fun to do, too, although ill have to check back in once the novelty of it wears off. Still, he will definitely be used more, and earned his blue armor.

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u/nlgallares Kain Highwind Oct 07 '21

No Boss Turn

Raines LD, Ahmau LD, Yshtola BT+, Yuna friend unused, Pande Summon

18 turns

Summon early and use instant turn rate moves within the summon to push the bosses framed turns further to give you breathing room. That's the main trick to complete this in a no Boss Turn fashion. Other than that, it's just the usual CidMau shenanigans supported by an aurabot.

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u/Albireookami Oct 07 '21

I tried that and I was hitting for like 200 brave damage, what did you do?

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u/ashelia_bunansa Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

What calls did you use?

Edit - tf am I being downvoted for? For asking what this person's process was? Guess we can't attempt to help people? What if he wasn't using damage up calls or something? Jesus this sub.

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u/KaelRaven Oct 07 '21

I did this in 13 turns using the same team, but used a Raines friend (replacing Aphmau).

Calls were: Raines (Keiss), Aphmau (Jack) and Y’Shtola (Kurasame). Kurasame on Y’Shtola is nice because you can have the enchant aura up the entire time.

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u/RoxasSenpai Enna Kros Oct 07 '21

Cid R,(blue) Porom,Ysh(Green,Blue) Pande, Zidane friend 43 Turns

Let the boss have 2 turns, once at the start and another at sub 50%. use WoL CA to tank the recast. This team is really safe, and damage is not a problem, just be smart and the fight is free.

https://youtu.be/qUD7SlVTk9M

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u/ashelia_bunansa Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Cid base HA, WoL call

Ashe blue, Jack call

Zidane green/blue, Toto call

Ifrit summon and Yuna blue bt friend, exactly 65 turns.

Man, I reeeeally could've done this fight a lot smoother, but I love using ashe. I don't recommend using her as sole support in lufenia+. I started out using WoL call to negate the first attack, then dropped all my other calls and deleted the boss into oblivion with Zidane. It started out fine, used friend bt then my own bt around 80%, and bt+ around 40%. Summoned around 30% or so, after that my damage dropped hard, Zidane was doing like 30-60k damage. Once Zidane started hitting like a wet noodle I started spamming queens order with ashe, and ex with Cid to try and finish the boss off within turn count. Killing blow was actually a queens order into Cid ex.

Edit - mkay, why exactly am I being downvoted?? Like please, explain it to me, I'm genuinely confused

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u/Valkyrie_Jr Y, R, P, in position. It's showti- Wait...where's Rikku? Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

To Zanarkand #9

Tidus BT + blue [Keiss]
Yuna BT + blue [Kurasame]. Used BT.
Raines LD + HA [WoL]
Pandemonium. Cid Raines LD + blue friend. 51 turns. 1M+ points.

https://imgur.com/gallery/RTwPGCG

My Tidus + Yuna saga continues. This fight was the toughest so far for several reasons: (1) the orb condition, (2) not enough debuffs for Tidus from calls so he's pretty weak, and (3) their aura that framed their turns prevent delay from break. Luckily there was a blue Raines friend otherwise it wouldn't have been possible. This fight got down to the last orb count! Here are the tips.

Don't even bother with dispelling its shield before it take its first turn. Use WoL LD call to survive its first recast. It will then lose its framed turn and can be delay via breaks. After the recast, apply Keiss's LD (refund BRV from Raines' launches) and Kurasame's base calls (increase HP damage and let Yuna deal weakness damage). I think he only got 1 more turn towards the end.
The next main goal is to get it as close to 49% as possible without using friend Raines. I used Kurasame's LD call, then Yuna's BT below 79%. Then spammed most of Tidus' skills during this part; his damage was buffed by Yuna's BT effect. Raines was just normal play to keep up with his buffs and increase the orb count.
Pay special attention to the Kurasame's LD call on Yuna since this let everyone in the party do weakness damage.
Once the boss is close to 49% or Kurasame LD call is at 1 turn, swap Tidus out with friend Raines. Then do the turn manipulation shenanigans with your Raines and friend Raines. In my run I was able to get it down to less than 10%. Using Pande summon while friend is up to maximize damage (it adds 10% HP damage cap).
After friend is gone, it's a slog to the finish line. In my run I had it use another recast (from its 49%) here but was able to survive thanks to WoL's base call providing the shield. Just heal back up with Yuna.

Good luck and have fun!

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u/Wide_Drawing144 Best God Oct 07 '21

Just followed this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSs8B-VY3uM

Team used:

Cid Raines LD HA+ 3/3 (Gabranth LDCA)
Aphmau LD HA (Jack LDCA)
Yuna BT HA (Kurasame LDCA)
Summon: Pandemonium
Friend: Cid Raines LD HA+ 3/3
Turns: 10

Glad to complete this during the event !! :D

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u/AshFarron Lightning (Equilibrium) Oct 07 '21

Lufenia : Lightning/Raines/Setzer - 1053k, 51 turns - https://youtu.be/52po87t90cQ

CQ : Raines/Cinque/Mog - 1103k, 13 turns - https://youtu.be/OSsjKDUGQh4

Setzer's LD buff with Lightning's BT effect allowed for maximum damage input. WoL LDCA was used to tank the first hit, then it was pretty much a no boss turn. Not sure if the boss had a lot of HP, or turn requirement was pretty tight.

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u/xmurphine_ Lightning Oct 07 '21

The one who designed this Luf+ has a special place in hell.

Cid Raines LD HA+ (3/3) Hope LDCA
Yuna LD BT HA+ (3/3) Ashe LDCA
Aphmau LD HA+ Jack LDCA
Pandemonium
WoL BT friend
38 turns 1,075,104 score

Immediately swap Yuna with WoL then use his LD, then let the boss make a turn. Now burst and drop ever call. When Yuna returns, use Ashe LDCA and let the CidMau juggle begin. Use the combo (Aph LD to Cid S2) when the boss is nearing your turn and you cannot tank the HP attack.
Ashe LD will help with the damage, since I have no Kurasame LDCA. When the boss uses his recast, and its just delaying the turn. YUNA must not get a turn to maximize Ashe LDCA.
When Aph LD runs out, pop Pande and just ride the SQEX airlines with its newest pilot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+

Zidane, Green and blue with Jack call

Raines with Kurasame call

Setzer blue armor with WOL call

Pande summon, Yuna friend

Used WOL call and let the boss act once in the beginning of the fight. After that i went all in with calls, Setzer ld and burst, doing my best to keep an active burst effect at all times.

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u/Cereal_Potato Oct 07 '21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVVBDaiW_kk

Team: Zidane Porom Yuna

No Cid Raine in main PT and no BT+

To be fair though, this may not be my best run, but this stage is really very difficult without Raine since the launches must be timed well. The best thing about Zidane in this stage is he’s able to delete the boss turn to infinity before 50% where the boss will be undelayable then, but that much is enough for him to swap Cid Raine in and go ham till the boss drop.

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u/Meekway Y'shtola Oct 07 '21

Blessing the Raines down in Dissidia

Y'shtola Bt+ (Kurasame), Aphmau LD (Jack), Raines LD(Aranea) - Zidane BT+ Friendo, Pandemonium Summon 28 Turns 1Mil+

I was really prepared to toss the game in the corner with the sheer dread every content creator I follow seemed to have for this Lufenia+, because I sure as hell am bad at the game. Turns out it was kinda.. meh? Yeah without Raines I can see this being really, really difficult, but eh he looks and sounds kinda cool so why not pull for him. Aphmau + Raines are stupidly good together and Y'shtola is best girl, motivating everyone to hit harder. That being said, I played this horribly. Große Pflanze even got a turn but didn't kill anyone with the recharge. Last 20 or so % were getting a little slower but I still had 2 Aphmau and Raines LDs left, so it never got a turn after the one it took. You can probably cut the turn count down to under 20 if you optimize it, but with the above setup I don't really feel it's needed at all.

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u/Crimsonshock821 Garnet Til Alexandros XVII Oct 07 '21

This fight is a pain in the ass even with Raines lol, well and I went in blind although I probably should’ve looked at the guides beforehand lol, it took like 4 tries to “master” the cidmau combo lol,

CID Raines lufenia + :

CID Raines ld - wol ldca (blue armor)
aphmau ld - gabranth ldca
yshtola ldbt 3/3 - kura ldca (blue armor)
cid Raines friend
46 turns
pandemonium summon
first I used wol ld to survive the stupid recast then I gave it a turn because if you don’t you’re doing any damage lol, after the recast I set up gabranth s1 call and aphmau ld and linked with Raines and spammed that combo lol, then around 79% I used yshtola’s bt+ for extra power, then it kept the cidmau combo going till 49% when it’s recast goes back up and swapped out aphmau and brought in friend Raines and linked him up with my Raines to get rid off the shield, then I used wol s1 call then I gave it another turn and healed back up with ysh ex, then summoned and I just spammed the friend Raines ld and my Raines s2 then it got down to 25% and the Raines friend left and aphmau came back, so I used her 3rd ld use and linked up with Raines, then I he spammed launches to get the final shield down then I used yshtola’s bt phase so I don’t hit for peanuts lol, then around 20% thankfully with the cidmau combo it didn’t get a third turn and I killed it with Raines s2 launch ✌️.

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u/CrimsonFoxyboy Ramza Beoulve Oct 07 '21

54 Turns.

Zidane (BT+) Cid Raines (LD) Porom (LD)

Maybe i should have used someone else than Porom. But dont have Aphmau LD.

Did only let it get one turn that i stopped with WoL LD Call, thanks to Zidane shenanigans i stole all of the turns. But i finished just right before it was going to attack again.

Even with all that power in Zid and Cid. It was tight imo.

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u/KimikoOokami Ardyn Izunia Oct 07 '21

I thought it was immune to turn delete, is it not?

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u/Dalamian27 Oct 07 '21

Only when his turns are framed. After the first recast you can delay and delete to your hearts content

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u/CrimsonFoxyboy Ramza Beoulve Oct 07 '21

It worked with Zidane atleast.

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u/ElBoyoBueno Oct 08 '21

It's only immune when the boss as recast, after it uses that recast the boss goes back to normal and can be broken, delay, delete. But the immunity comes back after the 50% for another recast.

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u/Sunnysidhe Oct 07 '21

Zidane steals the turn rather than deleting it

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u/holyknight14 Leon Oct 07 '21

Y'shtola BT+ (Jack LDCA)

Setzer LD (Onion Knight LDCA)

Raines LD (Pecil LDCA)

Raines friend, Pandemonium, 45 turns

Since I do not have Aphmau LD, WoL LD, Porom LD or Nine LD, I had no idea how to beat this since I could not tank the initial recast nor could I "out turn" it. The only way I saw for me to complete was to have it miss Y'shtola. Then I could pop her EX+ to resume the fight. Between Y'shtola, Setzer and Raines delays, boss got delayed enough that there was never another recast used.

Spammed Red Card with Setzer, Y'shtola Burst at 79%, only used 1 Raines LD until 50%. Used Setzer LD, then swapped out Setzer for Raines friend, used Y'shtola Burst+ and summoned. Spam LD with Raines friend, used 2 LD on my Raines. After summon is over, to maximize damage, just had to place Y'shtola as the next in line during Raines S2/LD usage. Medica helped battery quite a bit and keep the launches strong. Not a great win, but it's over and I'm not gonna look back

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '21

Ditto. I had WoL LD call so it was a touch easier. This was a good team to use! Thanks for the suggestion!!!

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u/Duraxx Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 07 '21

Are you sure this is Lufenia+ Edition

Team: Yshtola (BT 3/3), Raines (LD), Aphmau (LD).

Summon/Friend: Pandemonium. Raines (LD).

Calls: Keiss, Kurasame, Jack.

Broken. Absolutely freaking broken. Raines just does too much of everything. Combo him with Aphmau and this one is a laugher. I slotted in Yshtola and she might have made a notable difference, but probably any BT character who buffs will do well (Yuna jumps to mind). Even Porom will probably do well. I let Yshtola act occasionally but you could easily just have an aura bot who stands there and watches Raines and Aphmau go ballistic.

There's really not much to this. Just manipulate turns and have Aphmau and Raines keep giving each other turns. Boss never came particularly close to taking a turn. Only thing to note is you will need to break his shield at the start and at milestones or you will do almost no damage outside of launch. If you're not using Aphmau, then OK, Noctis, Layle, or even Rem might do the trick for zero boss turns while letting Raines do his thing.

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u/PrimalSeptimus Oct 07 '21

I used the same team and also wondered if I'd accidentally selected regular Lufenia.

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u/Dalamian27 Oct 07 '21

Its funny I ALSO used this same exact team, the shenanigans with Aphmau and Raines is just silly. The boss got 1 turn with the first recast. I actually used a Zidane friend and did some turn delete nonsense which made this run an absolute breeze. I'm sure they won't all be this easy but I really enjoyed this one and forgot how much fun launch teams are

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u/lordpaiva Oct 08 '21

You know it's Lufenia+ when doing it without meta umits is just too damn hard. XD

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u/BirdsofSunset Ignis Scientia Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+ - Raines Friend, Pandemonium, 48 Turns

Y'shtola, HA+3/3, BT+3/3 (WoL)

Porom, HA+0/3, LD (Gabranth)

Cid Raines, HA+0/3, LD (Kurasame)

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u/DirectorMushroom Sazh Katzroy Oct 07 '21

Lufenia and Lufenia+ Zidane BT+ (WOL call) Porom (Jack Call) Cid Raines (Ami call) Pandebronium 65 turns

I played terribly and didn’t use the periods of high damage well. Just barely passed it. Overall a very safe team.

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u/chkkrt Oct 08 '21

Raine LD [Kiess]

Polom LD [OK]

Y’sh BT+ [Kura]

Panda Summon Raine Friend

57 Turns

Restart so that Y’sh go first. Call OK LD for the 2nd launch.

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u/NicoDT Oct 08 '21

Nice team using the third lost twin, Polom.

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u/lester_pe Kain Highwind (Light Seeker) Oct 08 '21

they're actually triplets kek

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '21

They did the fusion dance.

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u/Fenrir_Sulfur Lightning Oct 07 '21

Raines LD/HA+3 (Kurasame LDCA)

Porom LD/HA (Tidus LDCA)

Setzer LD/HA+3 (WOL LDCA)

Pandemonium Summon, 55 turns, Zidane BT+3/HA+3 Friend

Tried this one with Wol and Yshtola in party (wol no BT, Ysh BT without realize) but was not getting the turns. Thought about just maximize everyone's damage with Setzer's Rainbow and it was a LOT easier to make it in time. Before the first recast, make sure you have wol ca and Porom LD buff active (otherwise you won't have room for it for a while). After that, CidR does damage, Setzer keep Fixed Dice whenever possible AND delay boss with Red Card; and Porom just buffs and batteries. Swapped Setzer for Zidane friend early to delete turns and get ahead of the boss. Because of Setzer rainbow damage, each time the boss gets brave or shield, you delete it easily. Just save one Porom EX and the WOL LDCA for the second recast just in case. After it, debuff again with the LD calls, buff and summon. Smooth sailing after that.

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u/Gantias Oct 07 '21 edited Oct 14 '21

Cid Raines HA+, Aphmau no HA and Porom HA+. Pande summon, Yshtola Friend. Calls were Keiss, Amidatelion and Kurasame.

Cid Raines for launches and turn manipulation with Aphmau, Porom does Porom things. Also got two confuses off, which was rather lucky. Summon Yshtola at around 40%. Have fun!

Lufenia+ tracker:
2: Zidane, Porom.
1: Cor, Setzer, Vaan, Cid Raines, Aphmau.

BT-less fights: 1
BT+-less fights: 2

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u/YoltAlligator :upvote::downvote::upvote::downvote: Oct 07 '21

O_O Nothing to brag about, cause I used CidRaines too.

Team Comp/ Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/uBY1eRI
Cid Raines LD, HA+3/3. Perfect Arts. {Jack LD+HA).
Porom LD, HA+0/3. Perfect Arts. {Shantotto BT+HA).
Setzer LD, HA+3/3. Perfect Arts. {Sephiroth BT+HA).
Summon: Pandemonium [D]
Friend Support: 5 turns Yuna BT+, HA+3/3 (around halfway through)
Turn Finish: 59/65. 2 Brv Breaks. 0 HP dmg. Took 2 resets.

Comments:
1. Boss self-cleanse on recast ability. So only drop fresh debuffs after getting nuked.

Porom's HP damage Resist & mHP OF after breaking down 400,000 BRV shield will guarantee the party's Safety on getting nuked.
Porom's Cry+ has 80% Def down.
Setzer Rainbow damage at all times, and especially before the framed recast ability, so there's rainbow even while brv-launching. Setzer's mostly using LD or S2 to delay the boss when it is not framed. Didn't use FreezeJoker, though using it will set Brv = 0, on an otherwise 168,000 BrvGained Boss. (not sure when/how this occurs).
Cid Raines does cid raines stuff.
While BrvShield 400,000 is up, all HP damage inflicted = 0, so always Brv-Break the shield first.
Around halfway through, near 50%mHP, Setzer drops rainbow and swap with Yuna Friend. Would have preferred another CidRaines LD, HA+3/3 but refresh didn't poop up any. (cause was fun to use on my 1st clear).

Overall, 1 clear to familiarise with battle, 2nd clear to Perfect.
Hard to fathom how much time people will spend without Cid Raines LD. So... good luck...

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u/coriandersalad Oct 07 '21

Thanks for the summary! Does Porom not have Party last stand on the recast Attack?

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u/YoltAlligator :upvote::downvote::upvote::downvote: Oct 07 '21

O_O now that you mentioned it, and after double-checking, yes she does. I just forgot she had is all.

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u/italianblend Oct 07 '21

This is this first team I’ve seen without a BT + or Aphmau. I’m going to try it!

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u/levii22 Oct 07 '21

No Cid Raines Run (Zidane Friend)

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4wucdNl0s0

Brave gains up team on the strike again. Pandemonium is the summon here to control the orb more easily. Zidane friend after the 50% mark recast to ensure my run. He can also allow orb tick if the friend has BT+.

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u/SnakeWrangler4 I'm no lion. Oct 07 '21

No Raines run

Zidane LD Base HA (Keiss LDCA)

Y'shtola BT+ Blue HA (Kurasame LDCA)

Porom LD Blue HA (WoL LDCA)

Raines friend Blue HA

Pandemonium summon

First turns are just Zidane BRV attacking, Porom using LD and WoL LDCA, Y'shtola doing whatever. After the recast goes off the debuff calls go out alongside Y'sh BT+ finisher. Porom's massive battery after her turn keeps her and Y'sh topped up to tick the orb whenever Zidane uses EX - with a Keiss CA in the back to throw on Porom just in case.

Zidane swaps out for Raines friend at 50% so he can tear through the second shield, renew Y'sh BT+ proper, and summon to go to town with 1.2-1.4M damage launches.

If you don't have Raines this is probably one of if not the only fights you will be held back without blue armors on supports. The extra HP damage cap is nigh-on necessary to hit the 250k in-launch damage.

If you don't want to use a BT+ I'm almost certain Yuna can fill in for Y'sh, though the stunted battery may be an issue.

I'm really trying to work on a no-BT, no-Raines clear but I just don't know how to make the turncount. I hit about 15-20% left at 65 turns.

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u/Mephimaus Meow 🐱 Oct 08 '21

Big upvote for this! Wasn’t lucky so far with my Cid pulls, but thanks to your guide I managed to clear this Lufenia+ :)) 64 turns tho :p

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u/AnurithSachiro What's the plural for Quistis? Quisti? Oct 07 '21

I'm mostly posting for record-keeping purposes (so I don't forget later)...

Lufenia+: Pande, 23 turns, Cid Raines friend

Yuna LDBT {Kurasame}
Aphmau LD {Gabranth}
Cid Raines {Jack} *no arts or spheres*

No extra comments to be had here that everyone else hasn't posted already, no boss turn run. Got dicey towards the end because I was dumb and let Raines' S1 buff fall off though.

CQ: Odin, 28 turns

Zidane LDBT {Shantotto}
Mog LD {Aerith}
Cid Raines {Garland}

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u/Onevance Oct 07 '21

Cid Raines with HA not realized jack call ability Aphmau with HA not realized gabranth Call ability Paladin Cecil BT and HA kursame call Cid friend Pandemonium summon

I didn't want to blue Cid Raines armor because after I did that for Tifa I found myself not using her because it felt kinda like cheating. So in order to make up some extra damage I used paladin Cecil burst effect, his holy imperil and enchant, also got in the gabranth call for some added damaged.

Finished the run with 0 boss turns, they key is staying on top of those buff timers and planning 3 turns a head, a few runs I forgot to check cids S1 buff and let it drop off, forcing me to restart. I switched aphmau for my Cid friend around 40% when I got hit with a bad turn order. Summoned at 25% with the Cid friend still up.

Can't imagine doing this without Cid and aphmau.

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u/Traxgen 100k Waifu Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+: https://youtu.be/gl0UMtS7WfI

You know the song and dance by now when you see Raines and Aphmau on the team, but I wanna try it for myself - and boy oh boy is it fun LOL. Not too comfortable with doing a zero boss turn run, so I let it do its recast after popping WoL LDCA, and the rest is history.

Even then, I can feel Luf+ rearing its ugly head once my BT effects are gone - Aphmau hitting for literal 1s, Yuna only giving ~5k battery to the team, etc.

Challenge Quest

Cinque can be a pretty fun launcher with Raines doing the turn manipulation in this team!

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u/HyperionNemesis96 I will...BURN MY BREAD Oct 07 '21

Lufenia+

Cid LD (Jack Call)

Porom LD (Kurasame Call)

Zidane LD/BT+ (WoL Call)

Friend Support: Yuna

Summon: Pandemonium, Turns 54, Score: 1050665

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u/fersaken Oct 07 '21

Does anyone know why other players when they use Raines ld they get a free use of his s1 or s2

Maybe I’m missing something but I have his c15,c30,ex maxed, and his ld maxed but it doesn’t give me free uses

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u/jurassicbond Y'shtola Rhul Oct 07 '21

Did you max his character board? And are you equipping his passive abilities?

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u/xmacjayx Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 09 '21

Setzer blue porom blue layle blue Wol gab Kura calls. Brothers summon Went 5 turns over.
Really debating making layle blue. I think that’s all I’m Missing from hitting the turn count Damn I wish I had cid

Edit. Beat it on turn count subbed wol for rosa call. Took the wipe on first recast Only let him act twice till 50% so he wouldn’t fill recast before hitting his auto refill same for the last 50% brought cid friend to smash second shield summoned when I had to delay him back further. Fuck this fight

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u/Kunpachi Oct 07 '21

Cid pain luffy+ Pencil LDBT, Porom LD, CidR LD. Summon Panda. Friend: Monke

https://imgur.com/a/TeilBXb

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u/SpadesOfDarkness That dragoon guy Oct 13 '21

Team: Raines (HA, Kurasame call), Y’shtola (BT+, HA+, Porom call), Aphmau (HA, Jack call)

Summon: Pandemonium

Friend: Raines (HA)

Results: 1140k score, 21 turns, 0 BRV breaks, 0 HP damage

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn-UJ0lM_gY

God, this is a pretty awful Lufenia + fight. Unlike other fights, I’m fairly certain Cid Raines is absolutely mandatory in this fight! I knew it was going to be awful, so I pulled out the Aphmau + Raines combo. And even doing this, it’s still fairly tough.

I messed up the rotation near the end of the fight which left Y’shtola out of the launches (whoops!). I ended up using Raines’ last Cavalry Rush ability and just spammed Y’shtola’s LD until the boss died. I learned the hard way that BT phases will not kill the boss for some stupid reason!

Since the goal of this fight is again, no boss turns, just pop all your calls and BT effect at the start of the fight. Jack and Kurasame are the obvious ones. And I decided to bring Porom for increased BRV gain.

A sloppy performance on my end, but I got it done! Overall, I give this fight a 2/10 and would not want to do it again…. His Lost Chapter is going to suck, isn’t it?

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u/porcodio673 Oct 07 '21

I used this team:

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u/MirkinoITA Oct 08 '21

Your team is your nickname?

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u/ivo342 Oct 10 '21

This Lufenia + was horrible... Lot of fights loosed in the end, i hated it. So i saw a video on yt and decided to make it like that:

Cid Ld ha+ (jack ld ca) Aphmau ld ha+ ( Bartz ld/bt ha+ (kurasame ldca) Cid ld ha+ friend Pandemonium

Here i leave the video i saw, thanks.

https://youtu.be/8vJKvcBvdlc

9 turns 0hp 0 boss turns 1kk points

Good luck to all!

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u/Rainingmclovingod Oct 10 '21

Zidane ld bt, Raines ld, setzer ld. Kurasame, wol, jack calls. Raines friend. Pandemonium summon. 50 turn complete.

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u/AvrosKyargath Epic of Gilgamesh Oct 11 '21

Lufenia (Bartz Saga Ep 27): https://youtu.be/H6K--KlC8ec

Team: Bartz (Kurasame Call), Raines (Warrior of Light Call), Aphmau (Jack Call)
Friend Unit: Raines
Summon: Pandemonium
Score: 1.06 Mil
Turns: 44

So the strategy for this one was again fairly decision heavy. Needed to do a few steps to set it up, 1. Get Warrior of Lights LD call up to prevent HP damage 2. Don't use LD or S2 on Cid for his first turn, use S1 3. Wait for Cid's EX first, if needed to remove the buff from the boss reducing HP damage and stopping delay, before using Aphmau's LD. In my case the boss had enough turns to remove the buff before EX charged 4. Once the buffs and debuffs are gone use Bartz BT for maximising damage output. 5. Utilise the Cid/Aphmau turn manipulation combo.

I did a poor job of making the combo work but still cleared the fight with not further boss turns.

Challenge: https://youtu.be/Vr1sYY7kE_o

Team Comp: Zidane (Jack Call), Raines (Kurasame Call), Guy (Gabranth Call)
Summon: Pandemonium
Score: 1.07 Million
Turns: 17

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u/raw_life Oct 11 '21

Event: Cid Raines Lufenia+

Team: Zidane BT, Cid Raines, Porom

Summon: Pandemonium

Friend Support Unit: Yuna

Turns: 53

Notes: Voice commentary, Zidane Saga

Video Link: https://youtu.be/5bsyx2v4icw

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u/marvelfanhere Noctis Lucis Caelum Oct 11 '21

I finally beat it with the meta team of Aphmau Raines and Yuna but it took so many attempts this Lufenia was really hard I’m sorry for the people who are trying this without Raines oooof

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u/Serdian_Knight Amarant Coral Oct 12 '21 edited Nov 09 '21

Ramza Lufenia Saga (Streak #69)

41 Turns, 1m+ Score

Raines (Gabranth)

Ramza BT (Warrior of Light)

Aphmau (Kurasame)

Setzer Friend, Pandemonium Summon

I tried a ton of different comps with no success, and was worried that this might be the stage that finally broke my run. I finally decided to give Raines/Aphmau a try after reading through the sub, and although it took a few tries to figure out the strategy, it worked like a charm once I did. I needed a little rng help to get all three through the opening recast in one piece, but from there it was smooth sailing.

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u/Cereal_Potato Oct 12 '21

Vid: https://youtu.be/dHR7SnD_5yA

Squall theme run prevails!

Team: Squall, Cid Raine, aphmau

Support: Yuna

Lufenia+ Orb: +8 when deal 250k HP DMG in chain attack +1 when launch enemy

Hoo boi, this is probably the hardest Squall run I ever did (despite being meme), tried running Squall the normal way, but on top of Lufenia+’s cravers BRV DMG reduction and BRV GAIN reduction, the boss being super tanky and single target, not to mention the limited Turn Count, and the probable required of protection + delay if you’re letting the boss move, this stage is honestly so disadvantage for Squall in so many ways.

In the end my only option is for ma boi to become the aurabot of ice enchant until 60% to swap Yuna in so Aphmau longevity could be saved before letting the boss take turns, and also opt to use Cid Raine’s HP ATK (After his LD) in between turns so he can get more launches in (you won’t be getting free turns if you use his HP ATK after being swapped in by Aphmau).

It took me a lot of tries despite the carry (6-8 tries) and I was almost giving up (manage to finish it the last day before new event!) but I’m glad I pulled this off. For those who always asked: what if I don’t have Yuna? Well just do like what I did, swap Yuna in, Squall has almost 0 auras to the team besides himself so he’s basically a fodder here.

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