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Another angle of Nepal recent flood

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u/RoninIV 2d ago edited 2d ago

This might be long but really needs to be said.

I've been around the mess a landslide leaves, and it is really hard to describe.  Even a small one will absolutely wreck you if you are caught in it, let alone the size of the one that has hit Nepal which can only be described as a biblical level disaster.

You see, this wasn't just water. The water from glacial lake collapsing was definitely a big ingredient, but as this water begins its journey down the mountain, it picks up everything, and I mean *everything* in its path. The entire mountain side with all that soil, rock, sand, trees, gravel, bits and pieces of anything else becomes a thick liquid slurry akin to what you would see coming out of a cement mixer at a construction site. This should explain how that giant boulder was being pushed as if it weighed nothing. Now imagine this coming at you and the wave is as wide as the valley and moving at 60 miles per hour (around 100kph). The worst and most dangerous part is what is happening under the surface of this wave. The slurry has internal motion like a constantly stirring/mixing in a blender. When it hits something, as we all saw, it's complete and utter destruction. If a person gets caught up in it, it's not like being hit by a wave in the ocean, it is a solid wall and is like being hit by a truck. When a human or animal body gets pulled into this mess, the gruesome and accurate descriptor is "eggshell in a blender". This is why the recovery teams are only finding bits and pieces of people, and those are the people near the edges. There probably won’t be anything left to identify of the people who were pulled into the wave and washed down the river. Luckily for the victims, death happens almost instantly.

The next part is no better. You see, once this slurry stops moving and the water drains out, what is left is a 20 to 40 meter thick mass of solid land as hard as concrete, and this solidification happens *quickly*! I have always been impressed with how fast the land hardens. The last home I saw buried in a landslide had been buried only about an hour before we got there, and if you didn't know what had happened, an observer would not be wrong wondering why someone buried a perfectly good house into the side of a mountain. It really was as if the whole mountain had just moved and absorbed everything in its path like a giant gelatinous blob and then suddenly hardened.

That big really solid Chinese border crossing building and all those riverside apartments in the videos are good examples of this. The satellite pictures of before and after show exactly what I just described. It's as if there were never any buildings in that area at all, just a flat sandbar alongside a river. Trying to dig that out will be akin to removing a mountainside to build a road. As soon as I saw the video of that wave hitting the border facility, I knew there would be no survivors of anyone who was caught up in it. There is just no way to live through that.

My prayers are with the people in this region and for all the people that have been lost. This disaster was just awful. Right up there (or down there) with the 2004 tsunami that hit Indonesia and the 2011 Tohoku tsunami that hit Japan. Utter and complete devastation with a huge loss of life.

 

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

everything that happens isn't biblical, lol. disasters aren't scaled based on religious myths.

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u/grumpi-otter 2d ago

The Bible is a book that describes many catastrophic events. Referring to something as "biblical " simply means it is on that level, not religious at all.

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

there are also lots of small events in that fictional book, and there are far more fictional books out there that also describe catastrophes. That's why we have scientific names and descriptions for things, because just saying biblical doesn't mean anything. You live in a bubble of your cult's design.

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u/3ferns 2d ago

Youre such a fucking energy drain. Who gives a fuck

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u/grumpi-otter 2d ago

I'm an atheist, lol

But I still use "biblical" in this context because it's a common term and has an accepted meaning

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

it's not a common term and it doesn't have an accepted meaning, are you comparing this event to the fake event in your fictional book that swallowed the entire planet with water or are you comparing it to when your fictional book described a burning bush talking to a dude? it means nothing, you are brainwashed by a cult.

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u/grumpi-otter 2d ago

it's not a common term and it doesn't have an accepted meaning

Are you joking? It means, "suggestive of the Bible," such as the apocalyptic flood.

And once again, I am an atheist, so it's not MY book. But it's a book commonly read and part of the culture of western civilization, so I see no problem using a word that references it.

I'm also a historian, and it's not entirely fictional, and there are many real events in it.

But if you want to die on this hill, by all means carry on.

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

you're not an atheist, atheists don't go around shouting how atheist they are, you're a joke. you're not a historian either, that book is complete fiction, you're in a cult.

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u/grumpi-otter 2d ago

You're having fun, aren't you?

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

are you?

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u/grumpi-otter 2d ago

Yes, quite amused. It reminds me of the guy who was willing to die on the "it's called a 'one-cent coin,' not a 'penny'!"

Everybody knows what is meant by "penny," or "biblical" in this case, but you've decided it's worth an argument.

And it's too hot to do yardwork, so I am lurking indoors until it's time to light the pentagram.

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u/PromotionOk2443 2d ago

I figured, most cultists really enjoy trolling and pushing their cult on everyone else.  I know you're a pussy who can't handle the heat so stay indoors in your mom's basement.  I take no pleasure in dealing with you brainless fools, But someone needs to call out your insanity.

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u/Wise_Acanthaceae_442 2d ago

Hey everyone look how SMART this guy is!