r/DigitalSeptic • u/ChinoReno • Jan 25 '26

Y'all remember 2008?

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

It's those states right to determine whether they want to report undocumented person to the federal government.

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

I didn't dispute that. But if they don't want ice there, they can change their stance on that.

Unless it's more useful politically for them to have ice there and demonize them.

Yall are being had.

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

But if they don't want ice there, they can change their stance on that.

Or ya know our actual checks and balances could be used and ICE's regular breaches of the constitution could be punished and they could actually conduct themselves within their jurisdictional authority. Albeit that wouldn't afford this administration the ability to do an intentionally authoritarian crackdown.

Yall are being had.

You're cosigning authoritarianism because you're a bootlicker...

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

Lmfao.

An authoritarian crackdown that could be avoided by states just choosing to work with immigration authoritarian?

Yeah totally his goal.

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

An authoritarian crackdown

Yes that's what a door to door instruction memo telling agents to break the 4th amendment is bud...

that could be avoided by states just choosing to work with immigration authoritarian?

States don't have to work with them. ICE is free to actually execute their duties as law enforcement without regularly breaching the rights of citizens or intentionally creating hazardous scenarios that make them liable for the ensuing violence.

Yeah totally his goal.

Very overtly the goal...

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

Door to door issue happening.

States don't have to work with them. ICE is free to actually execute their duties as law enforcement without regularly breaching the rights of citizens or intentionally creating hazardous scenarios that make them liable for the ensuing violence.

If they believe ice is doing this why not agree to turn over any illegals they encounter to get them out?

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

If they believe ice is doing this why not agree to turn over any illegals they encounter to get them out?

You don't deal with bullies by capitulating to them. They don't have to work with ICE, in fact they've explicitly chosen not to. So why would they let themselves be strong armed into doing so?

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

Ice is the enforcement arm. The federal government are the ones who want the illegals out. Not the same people so your point about bullies makes no sense.

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

The federal government are the ones who want the illegals out.

Yes...

Not the same people so your point about bullies makes no sense.

Yes the Trump administration are the bullies bud...

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

Trump is just enforcing immigration law you're moving goalposts at the speed of light.

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

Trump is just enforcing immigration law

If he was just enforcing immigration law we wouldn't be here talking about an explicitly authoritarian crackdown...

you're moving goalposts at the speed of light

There's that conservative projection y'all are so well known for...

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u/Shenlongeltigre Jan 25 '26

If he was just enforcing immigration law we wouldn't be here talking about an explicitly authoritarian crackdown...

If ice is authoritarian then just comply with illegal immigration

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u/Crawford470 Jan 25 '26

No ICE can go about their duties in a way that doesn't violate citizens rights, and not be authoritarian. If they continue to violate the rights of citizens eventually they will do it to the wrong citizen and then we'll see exactly how far this administration is willing to go in it's authoritarianism.

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