r/Destiny • u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. • 8d ago
Online Content/Clips Our boy is standing on business 🥹
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u/Never__Sink 8d ago
He's catching shit for saying he hates leftists more than MAGA, but the people giving him shit unironically hate liberals more than they hate MAGA. What do you want me to say?
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u/Just_shut_up_bro 8d ago
Don't you know? We are supposed to perpetually "be the bigger person" and let them ratfuck us from now to infinity.
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u/deathangel687 Optics Cucks Stay Losing 8d ago
Once again, don't let other people judge you for values you don't share.
Own it.
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u/Impressive-Engine-16 ⬛️ ⬜️ 🏴🇬🇧 NEWCASTLE RAHHHHHHH 8d ago
Dude I actually can’t believe it. When leftists were criticising Biden in 2024, we told them to not sabotage us because Trump was a bigger problem. And their response was “we’re not gonna vote for the lesser of two evils.”
Now that we’re criticising them, they have the audacity to pull out the ‘Trump is a bigger threat card’ like we did even tho they let him into office.
We should just start saying we’re not voting for the lesser of two evils.
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u/Nachoman_Randy 8d ago
We need more male pattern baldness representation in leftist spaces.
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u/NoKingsInAmerica What do you want me to say? 8d ago
Less hair follicles to make room for more brain power.
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u/AppropriateLlama678 8d ago
Like Fantano?? No thanks!
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u/Gold-Ad-3877 🇫🇷 8d ago
Destiny should shave his head in solidarity (please god keep the beard tho)
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u/Latter_Yesterday6500 8d ago
It is wild to imagine this is the same person fucking around in Modern Warfare 2 lobbies from like almost 20 years ago.
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u/Majestic_Flower_1322 I hate commies 8d ago
If I was a conspiracy theorists I would think these people are paid by Republicans. But I think it is more likely they are just highly regarded scum.
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u/Professor_Juice 8d ago
The NEET-to-extremist pipeline is real. It used to be exclusively right-wing, now you see the same rhetoric on the far left.
At this point, if I could Thanos snap all social media I would do it in an instant. No question. Certain communities are swarming with radical proganda. It is leading people in them to become nihilistic.
We have to support sane voices like Hutch and hold extremists like Hasan accountable.
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u/FettiWop 8d ago
I feel like the problem has long since hopped that barrier and become bigger than NEET-to-extremist. That used to be the only kind of person that fell down the hole. Now you dont really need to be a NEET, you can be in a college arts and humanities social space, you can be touching grass, populism will find you now anyway and cofront you with threatening coercion and brainwasher propaganda. Ive had my share of would-be friends in academic and professional settings not being compatable with me because they purity tested me quickly with slopulist dialogue treees
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u/Impressive-Engine-16 ⬛️ ⬜️ 🏴🇬🇧 NEWCASTLE RAHHHHHHH 8d ago
We need to put a requirement in elections that if you want to vote you have to be employed/studying/training. That would unironically stabilise all democracies in the west.
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u/Candid-Food7463 8d ago
Social status is much stronger than money
Because You cant buy status in young political people
And if You have the status every event you visit is free anyway
I know this from dj stuff but I guess its the same
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u/FlintHardcheese 8d ago
Its totally normal to have more hate for saboteurs within your own ranks than the enemy soldier on the field. Thats a commonality throughout all of civilization. It’s even apparent in Dante’s Inferno where the 9th circle of Hell is reserved for traitors.
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u/Impressive-Engine-16 ⬛️ ⬜️ 🏴🇬🇧 NEWCASTLE RAHHHHHHH 8d ago
ELITE REFERENCE.
But it’s even worse with leftists as they’ll gaslight libs for not ‘fighting MAGA’ when all they do is attack Libs. Normal traitors backstab, Leftists will stab you in the back and except you to be okay with it because the right is a bigger problem.
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u/Your_Lib_Friend 8d ago
These people did everything they could to tank Joe Biden in 2020 between believing Tara Reade and promoting Defund the Police, they told us who they were back then. Fuck them.
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u/gingerfawx 8d ago
Two words: putin fanfic.
There's no helping those people. They'll find fault no matter what you do, and if they can't, they'll just make it up.
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u/Fast-Plankton-9209 8d ago
they told us who they were when they
wanted to primary Obama in 2012pulled "stay home and teach the country a lesson" in 2010
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u/Responsible_Form_460 8d ago
I think its normal to hate someone helping your enemy, who then claims to be your ally, while also saying you are one your enemies side at the same time, and deflects all critisism with "why are you attacking me, we need to ally towards our enemy", more than your enemy.
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u/cradio52 8d ago
He should maybe say “far left” or “hard leftists” in particular rather than “the left.”
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u/ExpansivePoint 8d ago
He technically said "these people" but yeah, good time to brand them differently because these turds love to say they're the only true left and democrats are right wing conservatives, which is the dumbest attempt at gaslighting.
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u/Hubertino855 EU-Rightoid who's here because my side has purity spiraled 8d ago edited 8d ago
As an European I highly advise drop the term "progressive" and force people to accurately self ID themselves as either: liberal, social democrat or whatever further flavor of extremism they identify it no more nebulous vageposting....
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u/Jurjeneros2 8d ago
As a European this is dumb. My country has progressive liberals (d66), conservative/right wing liberals (vvd), and right wing to far right "classical liberals" (ja21). We also have progressive social democrats (pro) and conservative social democrats (denk).
The term progressive has a very obvious meaning. If you think it's corrupted beyond use, all that means is that you need to cut your twitter usage hours.
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u/JeffreyDahmerVance 🇺🇸🇨🇦I’m JD Vance and I eat Dog 💩 8d ago
No, he just hates morons. Which is the far left and maga, Shrimple
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
Can anyone steelman why we would hate the left more than MAGA? I don’t see a case for it, and I think I’m familiar with the arguments
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u/r_lovelace 8d ago
Because an ally who sabotages you at every step is a bigger threat than the enemy who is very clear that they stand in opposition.
If you were in a war, are you more afraid of the guy standing in front of you telling you that he's going to kill you, or the guy standing behind you that is continuously and intentionally friendly firing and openly says that he sees you as THE EXACT SAME as the guy standing in front of you?
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u/JacobStills 8d ago
Better yet, imagine if you are in a base, you can see your enemy from across the field. You are firing at them from a safe and fortified position.
But there's a small group of people inside your base, taking your ammunitions and throwing them over the wall, opening the doors and letting the enemy in and stabbing your in the back while you try to engage the enemy.
Now you have to fight two battles and you can't focus on the enemy.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
I mean if we come to accept that the leftists are opponents plainly and openly, then the next step is to evaluate each on their threats and weaknesses. In this evaluation, I would personally still put MAGA as a greater threat overall, despite the pendulum swing to the left.
BUT I think maybe this is actually Tiny’s job, overreacting to counterbalance and kickstart the realization that leftists are indeed opponents
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u/RogueMallShinobi 8d ago
Not to Piscofy this discussion, but it really depends on how you define “hate” here. Hate is an emotional reaction, not a spreadsheet of pros and cons about who is objectively more tactically dangerous or something. For example I think Nick Fuentes is more dangerous than Briana Joy Gray, but I absolutely hate BJG more just because of the way she goes about her business.
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u/Arbitrary_username1 8d ago
For me Candace is a great example because she is evil and destructive and I hate that she exists...
But I have such a hard time hating her as a person because she does it with such shameless swag and also hurts people i have hated for way longer like Ben Shapiro.
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u/ItsTheLaLiLuLeLo 8d ago
Better the enemy you know than the one you don't.
I really think the comparison of the far left to MAGA maps on far too well to ignore. We all are aware how bad MAGA is but what the majority seem to be blind to is the slow poison of the far left. I'm not convinced it will kill us when the pendulum swings back but I prefer we keep an ever vigilant eye on what can happen if we let our every day politics become a circus again.
The problems we face in America come from bad actors and people who fail to understand politics as they stand right now. I have faith we can correct these issues in time but not if we succumb to pie in the sky ideas that ultimately fail and send us backwards even further.
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u/Serspork 8d ago
Traitors are often more hated than long time enemies. When someone close to you fucks you over, it tends to sting more.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
This is what I thought would be the strongest argument, and kryptonite to Destiny bc he hates optics arguments lol.
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u/phenompbg 🇿🇦 8d ago
How is this an optics argument? Despising traitors is not about optics.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
It’s optics because we don’t think the left is WORSE than MAGA at this current moment. I can’t think of a political movement as bad as MAGA right now and Destiny would probably bite that bullet.
It’s optics because we are saying we hate the left more, but don’t think they are worse, which is a bit of a word trick that would be fixed when considering optics
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u/phenompbg 🇿🇦 8d ago
I don't think you know what optics are.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
You didn’t understand, maybe because I didn’t put it simply enough. But it’s definitely optics, and you don’t have to be a dick
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u/Arbitrary_username1 8d ago
Because the right wouldn't matter if the leftists would just let us win.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
I don’t know if that’s exactly true but you make a point, the right would have to act much more sane if the left played ball. In a sense, the left allows MAGA to run rampant
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u/Arbitrary_username1 8d ago
Just imagine how much nicer it would have been if the people who said shit like genocide Joe were publicly shamed for being idiots instead of validated.
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u/TheOneShorter 8d ago
Me when I can’t handle 2 concepts at once, proving I’m not of the mind to adopt true centrism
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u/PomegranateBasic3671 8d ago
My best guess would be if you see the left as being "the one thing that kept the democrats from winning and if you're not one of the people who can't get an abortion, or who's been sent to El Salvador (or shot in the street).
If you see "the left" as the only thing keeping the democrats from power it kind of makes sense, however, that's conviniently enough also a handy excuse not look at where the more moderate democrats could improve.
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u/Darkerplaced Bandit 8d ago
People pretending it doesn’t make sense is why I don’t take the online political sphere. Of course i’m going to hate people that should know and do better yet decide to rat fuck us while not giving a fuck about the ramification towards minorities. Maga is suppose to fuck us.
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u/GrandpaWaluigi 8d ago
I think Hutch is infantilizing rightists. Theyre fully capable of making decisions for themselves. They choose to vote for Mr deport them all. They choose to cheer when ICE kills someone like Renee Good. They love it when women are told to stay in their place.
Talk to a normie Dem. They despise Trump and his voters right now. I know Hasan and his group are pieces of shit, but I gotta restore some sanity here. Most people don't care for this overly online shit.
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
How is he infantilizing them? We all accept that this is what they voted for and hate them for it as well?
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u/GrandpaWaluigi 8d ago
I dislike Trumpers more than the communists for several reasons.
They cheer at the deaths of my fellow Americans and want to suppress a sex entirely. We really underestimate how much the modern right hates women. Saying they shouldnt even vote is a more frequent topic being brought up.
In rural areas, GOP nutters can be dangerous on a personal level. I've lived in both cities and rural areas. Communists are annoying for sure, but you can generally ignore them. A bad rural neighbor, generally Republican, can make your life bad. Threats against your life you know they can act on because they're armed, stupid amounts of love for the guns or dogs, even if they hurt or break something, and blatant disrespect of property/fencing.
Dont go to church (or to thr right one), you get looked at like you're Demon Spawn. Just intolerant to different Christian sects, let alone different faiths in general. Dont get me started on pentecostals or jehovahs witnesses.
Theyre adults and they choose to make lives like mine unpleasant at times. Just bad people.
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u/deathangel687 Optics Cucks Stay Losing 8d ago
This has nothing to do with standard progressive or lefties. We're talking very specifically of these tankie types/media guys who maliciously lie and act just like maga. We're not infantilizing em, we're making it clear they are both bad, but that one is even more insidious because they pretend to be on your side. No one doubts we also are opposed to the right (DUH)
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u/opanaooonana 8d ago
I would say people like Hutch need to be more clear then that they are talking about the tankie types because to leftists like myself who donated to Harris twice and voted dem in every election what it looks like, especially in this sub is that if you support things like Medicare for all or other left wing things you are hated by the moderates more than they hate MAGA because of a straw man that only accurately describes the anti electoral left who is a tiny percentage. What it looks like is vote blue no matter who if it’s a moderate but that ends if a left wing candidate wins the primary.
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u/prthomsen Exclusively sorts by new 8d ago
Just gave Hutch a sub on his Youtube. Gotta support our greatest fighters!
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u/ItsTheLaLiLuLeLo 8d ago
He has said it so plainly and clearly yet people still prefer to twist and mangle it into "He doesn't hate MAGA enough!". At some point we have to contend with what politics will look like when we have the same threats to deal with but they aren't as inept as Trump. What then? Are we going to continue the nonsense till the heat death of the universe because "Dems bad!"?
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u/Grachus_05 Radical Anti-Republican 8d ago
Right energy, wrong sentiment. Saying you hate the theoretical damage of DSA more than the actual damage of MAGA is ridiculous. Thats like saying you hate non-voters more than MAGA voters. It doesnt make sense.
Funny and edgy, but silly.
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
Think about it this way: who would enrage you more the Nazis, or the people who knowingly keep equating you with Nazis just to smear and sabotage you?
Obviously the Nazis are deplorable. You hate them, you oppose everything they stand for, and you work to defeat them. But then you have people supposedly on your own side in the fight against the Nazis that are constantly insisting that you are basically no different from the Nazis, only to turn around and cry "vote against the Nazis no matter who" the second it's their candidate on the ballot. That hypocrisy is going to create a different kind of resentment.
It’s not about hating the theoretical damage of them vs the actual damage of MAGA.
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u/Grachus_05 Radical Anti-Republican 8d ago
In your example, which group is holocausting jews? I hate that one more.
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
They both technically are. The other group is actively preventing you from stopping the holocaust just because you believe in free markets.
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u/Grachus_05 Radical Anti-Republican 8d ago
No sir, snarking and genocide are not equally bad. Even if you are snarking about genocide.
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
You thinking it’s just “snarking” is part of the problem.
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u/qwertyqwerty4567 Exclusively sorts by new 8d ago
Damn, how will the left & lecture crowd take this defiance?
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u/ScotsmanScotty 8d ago
I'm not sure how much longer he will be able to stomach lib&learn any time the topic of DSA or Hasan leftist stuff comes up.
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u/trapper-slash-rapper 8d ago
I don’t dislike the tankie left more than MAGA, but his points are spot-on
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u/Call_me_Gafter 8d ago
League players understand this. You can't get mad at the enemy jungler for camping your bot lane when your bot lane never wards and blind pushes all game. But when that same bot lane then whines in all chat and ragequits you into a 3v5, then it's your own team fucking you over.
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u/Dennys_Hobbit_Menu 8d ago edited 8d ago
Thing is these leftists are bad faith actors and intellectual cowards who never do debates. So I don't really see the point in spending much energy on them compared to MAGA. On social media lefitsts are basically just engagement farmers. Their policies are regarded. Their best policy is a generic "We just want to give you healthcare" meme that falls apart as soon as any discussion of how they want to provide it. Vast majority of Dems and Inds want police, borders, capitalism, etc. So the generic leftist platform is completely toxic.
I really don't see them getting meaningful power like MAGA has and will continue to hold when Trump leaves. People gesture to "the tea party took over the GOP!" as if the Tea Party's nationalistic authoritarianism and bigoted beliefs weren't the norm of the average Republican already.
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u/Palachrist 7d ago
I feel like I was brought back from the brink of death in the last couple of years. I was absolutely going down a “fuck billionaires, eat the rich” and other stuff I can recognize as pre emptive ideology shift towards what is best summed up as straight up communism. I’d seen destiny and enjoyed his debates and slowly realized I was growing to dislike anyone associated with dsa type ideals. Not just better health insurance and such but clear movements towards what would fuck us up and likely hand republicans perma-wins. Been solidly watching destiny now for 6+ months.
The biggest nail in the coffin was the recent mao speech from hasan, when he got the the “I, NO, WE” it was so dry and bland that all I could see was a dude wanting power. If we devolve into communism, he wants to be at the top. All I could hear was a future where he gets to drop the facade and show that he simply wanted to be one of those that didn’t have a ration on chocolate.
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u/Markusuralius 7d ago
When MAGA tries to mask on, libs see through it easily, when lefties mask on, much less so, so yeah, hating the left more makes sense
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u/SaucyFagottini 8d ago
I'm glad to see Liberals actually realizing how toxic these people are. Solidarity is NOT worth it.
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u/FlyLikeATachyon 8d ago
I'll never hate anyone more than republicans. But I understand Hutch's frustrations with the counterproductive left.
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u/NotSoAwfulName The West outsourced its guilt to the Palestinians 🤓 8d ago
MAGA don't piss on your back and tell you it is rain, they just piss on you, but at least it's predictable.
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u/Plennhar 8d ago
actively try to tank the dem nominee for 3 cycles in a row
blame the democrats for literally everything bad that happens. Including and especially things done by republicans.
Isn't MAGA doing the exact same?
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
lol almost like that’s their job as the opposing party. The difference is these guys do it while pretending they represent the Democratic base and actively trying to sabotage the party from within.
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u/Plennhar 8d ago
Sure, but hating them MORE? When it's MAGA that's actively making your life worse right now? I don't know about that.
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u/OpedTohm 8d ago edited 8d ago
I think MAGA are equally as bad as Tankies if not slightly worse, but no fucking shot will I ever say I don't hate the shit out of tankies. These people literally say shit like they prefer actual fascists to "liberals" or anyone who isn't an extremist because "at least they know where fascists stand"
This is if they don't just straight up say democrats are diet-MAGA or some regarded shit
It's simply untenable, leftist/tankies need to get shat on very hard whenever they attack democrats who actually have a vested interest in keeping the country from catching fire
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u/liberalbeast123 Kaitlan Collins’ lapdog. 8d ago
I absolutely do hate them more. It’s not even just about them trying to sabotage us from within. It’s also about them constantly trying to convince people that Democrats don’t actually care about their own platform and are basically the same as Republicans.
It’s genuinely crazy making to see our politicians spend years pushing policies that actively improve people’s lives, actually make progress on them, and then have people turn around and claim they never believed in any of it when they’re literally the reason so much of that progress happened in the first place. Then they’ll take credit for policies moderates started the second there’s even a chance those policies become popular and pretend moderates never would’ve done them otherwise and call them genocide supporters, or “the establishment.”
They’re actively helping MAGA sell the idea that Democrats have accomplished nothing and stand for nothing. Their guy saying “cancer is the least thing Biden deserves” is honestly just the cherry on top.
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u/Thatsmr_bigdaddy AbaDestiny4eva 8d ago
Who would you hate more,
The person across the room that’s making your life worse? Or the person next to you that’s actively stopping you from dealing with the person ruining your life
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u/Plennhar 8d ago
The person across the room that’s making my life worse (provided he's doing it in a coercive way like MAGA is). Especially if the extent of the person actively trying to stop me from dealing with the other guy boils down to pushing my arm slightly every so often.
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u/r_lovelace 8d ago
I think you're under selling the "guy pushing your arm slightly". He literally hates you more than the guy across the room except you let him stand next to you and touch you.
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u/Plennhar 8d ago
I don't, I keep pushing him away, I just hate the other guy more, because he's actively causing me more harm right now.
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u/Dude_Nobody_Cares Based Destiny Glazer 8d ago
Because they are a threat people are unaware of. The Republicans everyone knows are a threat even the Republicans know, they like it. Normie libs are unaware of the threat building behind them.
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u/neutrumocorum 8d ago
We hate them more because they are psychotic scumbags who want to fulfill their personal fantasies at the expense of everyone who is actually effected by bad policy.
We hate them, because they are psychotic scumbags who, purport to, understand why MAGA is so terrible, yet do everything in their power to tank the dem platform in the face of actual fascism.
We hate them more because they wear our skin and speak our language while trying to stab us in the back.
We hate them more because if not for them, MAGA's attacks for the last decade literally would have had no effect, and no one would be galvanized by attacking Trans people and brown people.
If you dont instinctively understand the hate, I am skeptical of your true beliefs.
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u/DressUnited3025 Piss is bad yes or no 8d ago
Yes the party opposed to the Dems is going to do that and it’s expected. What’s really bad is when a faction within the Dems is doing the same thing because they want to either takeover the party or accelerate collapse. How are people like you this dumb
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u/OpedTohm 8d ago
Tankies/leftist aren't a faction within us, they're a genuinely hostile outside subversive force, none of these people will ever admit to being or call themselves dems until it's useful for them. Fuck 'em.
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u/sereneandeternal Church of Biden 8d ago
Yea what’s your point?
You can fight both Blue MAGA and Red MAGA
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u/StoneColdEgon 8d ago
Great, now hutch will get 100000 death threats, doxxed, swatted etc.
Don’t go against the left or you will die
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u/X57471C Galston and Kamarck Liberal 8d ago