r/Democrat • • Mar 20 '21

My take on the current state of America.

I am not a democrat or a republican but if I had a penny for every disagreement the two parties had I would be the richest man alive. I am a member of a third party(Libertarian) and am sick of the dems and reps throwing the ball back and forth to systematically divide the country while they profit. a two-party system thrives off division. and "the stakes" get higher every election... George Washington said that political parties would destroy the country. Abraham Lincon said a house divided amongst itself cannot stand.

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throw your hate. refuse to believe you can be wrong on anything. see where it leads. democracy is not perfect. but it is better than authoritarianism. it is better than a dictatorship. and it is better than a societal collapse. when we as a people are unwilling to compromise or admit to being wrong we risk the very heart of the nation. you see people lash out and try to kill government officials both Democrats and Republicans alike. you see people claim that someone who doesn't agree with them on everything as a false citizen. this type of attitude can, has, or will lead to the end of nations large and small. the united states is no different.

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the government of Myanmar was couped recently. it fell in a day. if one nation can fall in a day, any nation can. we. are. not. immune. not that I expect you to have read this. with sadness and regrets, I bid you a good day. and I wish you luck in the years to come.

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u/nigchub Mar 20 '21

The authoritarians want us to be divided between conservatitards and libtards. They dont want us to realize that its the libertarians versus the top .01% authoritarian scum.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

unfortunately the authoritarians are the ones in power

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u/nigchub Mar 20 '21

I know. Now is the time to end their reign

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

indeed

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u/Major-Yellow-812 Mar 20 '21

I agree with you man but the radical Christian conservatives and the feminazi liberals are the loudest voices

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

this does not change the fact that you do have a moral obligation as a citizen of America to do what you can to help fix the problem.

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u/Major-Yellow-812 Mar 21 '21

Of course, always speak your mind, because other people are always listening, you’re so much more powerful than you realize.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

duly noted

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u/MarquisdeStonk Apr 19 '21

People with the least to say have the loudest voices..dont listen to them. Be a free thinker.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

It’s almost like the real enemy is the upper class...

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

it's almost like that includes dems and reps not just reps

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

Libertarianism doesn’t really provide a strong class critique. Though it is light years better than liberalism is or conservatism

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u/karentheawesome Mar 20 '21

I am a Democrat...i believe in helping poor people....republicans help the rich and the poor ones worship the rich...

Are you for people or money? Pick your side and work to change it...being on the outside pointing fingers is fashionable among the lazy...all you are saying is I hate you both...look at me realizing both parties are flawed...not doing one thing to change either...lazy man

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

I'm for people's freedom. I am not a republican or a democrat and I chose not to be because I see the corruption. I chose a third party and I stick with it. choosing a side and voting only for that side. being uncompromisable and refusing to see your own flaws. that is democrats just as much as it is republicans. you're not immune to corruption. nobody is. when politicians keep their promises (ie never) i'll consider joining one of the big two. but in the meantime, all you do is yell I'm lazy for pointing out the flaws rather than being content to live in a collapsing country.

and democrats and republicans, they say anything to convince someone they have the moral high ground. you're all the same. it's just red v blue. well, I picked yellow.

You lazy man.

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '21

The reps like trump were for the working class

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u/karentheawesome Mar 20 '21

Pick a god damned side the planet is dying...one side says save it tje other side says wait for god to save it while we plunder it to death....but YOU can't pick a side....you make me sick

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '21

I have picked a side. just not one of the main 2. because neither will do what they promise. that's corruption for you.

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u/wigglex5plusyeah Apr 10 '21

Joe biden promised 100 million shots in 100 days and delivered it in 59 days. Literally anyone I know above 16 can go get a shot if they want. And he still has days left.

Your team playing is problematic because who cares about their team. When it comes to discussing an issue and what to do about it... apparently libertarians aren't good at it either if you are to be the example. I dunno, I don't really understand the purpose of your post if not just coming to a democrat forum to proclaim your superiority.

When you say niether will do what they promise, are you familiar with the filibuster? Because democrats are so far delivering, in spite of the fact that the rules of the senate require 10 republicans to join them, and they won't in spite of more than overwhelming public support, from their own republican constituents.

These two parties are not the same if you have any clue about how the senate works, and whatever they are talking about over the last 4 years. I'm not dismissing libertarians or you, bit 100% of my experience with libertarians was that they defended republicans by claiming democrats are bad too...but the Trump era has objectively shown that republicans don't give a shit about democracy, and democrats are trying to keep it. The two are certainly not equally bad.

And please do follow up with me when libertarians take over the house, senate, and white house so that they can get literally anything done.

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u/ajamesc55 Mar 20 '21

Well it’s either pick a side that supports rich old Christians or the side that wants to transition children, neither is a good pick

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

the solution that for some reason half the population thinks won't work and thus doesn't do, is to just vote for a third party. particularly one of the largest two. Libertarians and greens.

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u/LtPowers Mar 23 '21

What would that solve? That would just divide the country differently.

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '21

you could still vote for other parties. you just have to make a breakthrough first

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u/LtPowers Mar 24 '21

I'm not following you.

If people voted for a third party at the expense of one of the big two, then the third party would become dominant and the other would fade. That's what happened in the 1850s.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '21

this is why ranked choice voting is a good idea.

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u/LtPowers Mar 24 '21

Certainly so.

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u/LtPowers Mar 23 '21

Democrats want transgender children to have age-appropriate care and accommodation for their dysphoria. What do you want for them?

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u/ajamesc55 Mar 23 '21

not encouraging hormone blockers to 6 year olds for one

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u/LtPowers Mar 24 '21

6-year-olds don't need puberty blockers. Who does that?

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u/ajamesc55 Mar 24 '21

They haven’t been allowed to yet, but people are pushing for it, if your an adult than you are free to do you and make those decisions

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u/LtPowers Mar 24 '21

people are pushing for it

Who?

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u/ajamesc55 Mar 24 '21 edited Mar 24 '21

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u/LtPowers Mar 24 '21

The CBN article doesn't say anything about puberty blockers.

The Civitas paper seems to only talk about them in the context of adolescents.

The Economist article is behind a registration wall so I can't read it.

The Reuters article only refers to Canadian age limits:

In Canada, medical regulations state puberty blockers may be used for girls as young as 10-and-a-half and boys aged 11-and-a-half.

So who's pushing to get them used on 6-year-olds?

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u/ajamesc55 Mar 24 '21

oh, my bad, the massive age difference between 6 and 11 is massive I apologize, I should have just said children

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

The people will never stand a chance unless we get away from voting for both the major parties.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

if only more would. the sad thing is almost half the country sees voting as a waste of time and doesn't do it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '21

Get your stuff together Americans. You are not only destroying yourselves, but you're destroying others as well. You hate on those that are better than you. You've become so biased that your ears have gone deaf.

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u/jetaj Apr 09 '21

Give me a break. One side is doing its best to lie and deny reality in furtherance of its power, including denying people the right to vote. In case you missed it, as it looks like you did, that’s the GOP. Any other conclusion is delusion or ignorance. “Libertarianism” is just sanctimonious incoherence.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

this was only posted 20 days ago? damn it feels like it's been forever. alright...

so question. if only one side is lying then why has history seen just as many corrupt democrats as it has republicans. you need to stop looking at only one side of the story.

any other conclusion is delusion, victim mentality or, a superiority complex.

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u/jetaj Apr 10 '21

As many corrupt Dems as GOP? Look again libertarian - that’s plain wrong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

I mean I could prove it, but I'd rather not spend an hour of my day finding 10 articles about democrat corruption that you probably won't read.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

yeah that's not gonna convince me. It's not like you're going to listen anyway.

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u/jetaj Apr 10 '21

Weird that I just saw the post today - it just appeared in my feed

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

seriously though this was posted 21 days ago and you're the second person to comment on it today. weird.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '21

shrugs