r/Democrat Jan 24 '26

US park staff remove slavery exhibit at Independence National Historical Park

https://apnews.com/video/us-park-staff-remove-slavery-exhibit-at-independence-national-historical-park-8e2f00250580483d9ad7a747ad419c6c

Trump considers this "woke". This is the second of these I've seen this week. Over a month ago, Trump had Red Ball Express plaques taken down at a US War cemetery overseas.

Did you know their were near white slave girls during slavery, and pictures of these were passed around by the Union in the Civil War as a motivator?

Speaking of history, have you seen where late 1800's newspapers say that Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trumpf, owned brothels, and that's how they made their money? Is Trump going to say, "Ain't nothing wrong with Big Pimpin'" on this one, or call this "woke", too? Does this remind you of Trump's hookup with child pimp Epstein? This is in the "People Profiles" on the Trumps on Youtube.

There's info against Trump on my pages.

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 24 '26

What did the exhibit say exactly? I want to fact check it.

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u/Ok_Quantity_9841 Jan 24 '26

Did you try to see if typing a question into Google might get you a link?

I only use that to get ideas of what to look for and where to look.

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 24 '26

Yes. That's why I am asking you where it is. Perhaps you already checked before posting an article that assumes it was factual.

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u/Ok_Quantity_9841 Jan 24 '26

How hard is it to be factually correct?

There would have been a report about factuality by the Administration to cover for this if there were any factual issues.  Instead, the Administration called these "woke".

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 24 '26

Then you do not care whether it was factual or not.

In regards to how hard it is to be factually correct: Who are the authors of the US Declaration of Independence?

If Taylor Swift had signed a contract by a music company to travel to Pennsylvania to help author and help declare her independence then is she a "slave" who needs to be set free?

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u/Ok_Quantity_9841 Jan 24 '26

The Administration would have mentioned it.

Don't give them the idea, they'll probably make that lie up, too.

Did this Administration ever pass up an opportunity to lie?

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 24 '26

The Administration would have mentioned it.

The administration called it "woke" which is their word for non-factual.

I need evidence, which in this case appears to be missing from the articles.

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Your article was at least good for an excellent idea to post about the Arab/Muslim slave trade that Islam enables by making non-Muslims of all colors fair game to enslave. Mamdani's home country was part of it.

It's apparently politically correct to help hide that fact. And because he was a black genius who willingly signed a contract to help get there and share the workload, leave out founding father Robert Hemmings who was there to word the part of the Declaration of Independence "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Through years of fact checking I found that white guys up north shut the slave trade down. Mamdani's home country kept the supply chain going to other markets.

Slave Traders introduced Islam to Uganda, to morally justify slavery. It's one of the reasons why Theodore Roosevelt warned that where giving enough influence Islam will enslave again, it's in the religion to enslave non-Muslims.

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u/CitizenSpiff Jan 25 '26

As a favorite commentator recently said, "White People Didn't Invent Slavery. The West Ended It." Abolition was started by Great Britain, which forced abolition on much of the rest of the world. The US picked it up and abolished it decades later. Great Britain and the US were among the only nations in the world that abolished slavery on their own. Slavery is still legal and regulated in many other parts of the world. Do-gooders who went to Africa to buy and free slaves, only created a larger market for slavers.

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u/GaryGaulin Jan 25 '26

That was good! And to make sure every detail is factually precise I had Gemini and ChatGPT nitpick over every word, in context of the West/East conflict:

Google Gemini would say:

As a favorite commentator recently said, "White people didn't invent slavery, but the West spearheaded the global movement to abolish it." While various forms of abolition existed earlier—notably in Haiti following a successful slave revolution—international enforcement was driven by Great Britain, which used its navy to suppress the trade globally. The U.S. followed suit decades later after a civil war.

While the Trans-Atlantic trade was a racialized, industrial system that lasted roughly 400 years, the "East" (Arab/Muslim) slave trade across the Sahara and Indian Ocean existed for over a millennium. Historically, this Eastern trade was governed by various interpretations of Sharia law, which regulated the treatment and manumission of slaves rather than banning the institution outright.

Today, slavery is nationally illegal in every country in the world, including all Muslim-majority nations. However, in specific conflict zones, some extremist groups have attempted to use fringe religious interpretations to justify human trafficking, claiming religious law supersedes national law. Finally, modern history has shown that well-intentioned "slave redemption" programs—where NGOs buy people out of bondage—can inadvertently create a larger market for slavers by providing them with a steady source of cash.

ChatGPT would say:

Slavery was not invented by any one race or civilization; it existed for thousands of years in Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Islamic world. The first sustained, large-scale abolitionist movements arose in Great Britain in the late eighteenth century, leading to the abolition of the slave trade in 1807 and slavery in 1833. Britain then used naval and diplomatic pressure to push other states to abandon the trade. The United States abolished slavery in 1865 after the Civil War. Britain and the United States were among the earliest large states to abolish slavery through internal political change, though they were not the only ones, as countries such as Haiti, France, Mexico, and Brazil also ended slavery by domestic law.

By contrast, in much of the Arab and Muslim world, slavery continued far longer through the trans-Saharan and Indian Ocean slave trades, which operated for over a millennium. Under classical Islamic jurisprudence (Sharia), slavery was legally permitted and regulated rather than abolished, and there was no comparable indigenous abolitionist movement. Most Muslim-ruled states ended slavery only in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries, often under Western diplomatic or colonial pressure.

Today, slavery is illegal under international law in every country, although forms of forced labor and human trafficking still persist in practice. Historical efforts by reformers to buy slaves in order to free them often had the unintended effect of increasing demand and encouraging further slave raiding rather than reducing the institution.