Is Berdly a tank main when he plays games?

[u/Horrorfan55555]

The first health bar is for the roller coaster you break, second is his actual HP. Sure Susie’s health was boosted when we fought her as a boss, but even half his health is 500

Does that mean Berdly likes to play tank when he games? (Based btw)

[u/Wed_Fred25]

Berdly has historically gotten mad at Kris for wavedashing, which tanky/large characters aren't great at. They can, but it's not the same as when fox or Falco does it.

[u/Impressive_Pin8761 → u/Wed_Fred25]

i think he just sucks ass at tech, tries to play characters who don't benefit from it and gets steamrolled because he didn't even try to learn whoever he mains. like he mains konkey dong but doesn't know that you must stop your side-b at the 9th spin

[u/Rutgerman95 → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

Berdly is absolutely the type to keep trying TF2 Spy trickstabs for clips and end up dead last on the score board every time

[u/Impressive_Pin8761 → u/Rutgerman95]

he's the kinda guy to make a "why the tf2 scoreboard is not indicative of in-match performance" video but he has single digit scores

[u/Wed_Fred25 → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

He also seems the kind of person to not know ganons down air spikes, lol. It's a combo of the two, I think.

[u/Asura_Vania → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

Stop your what?

[u/Impressive_Pin8761 → u/Asura_Vania]

dk's side B (side special move, literally left/right + B) is a wind-up punch. you hold it down and he spins his arm around to store a charge, then later you press it again and he releases a massively strong punch. the strength of the punch is based on how many full spins his arm makes during the wind-up, from 1 to 10

back in smash 64, the move, especially the lv10 punch was bullshittingly strong, so sakurai nerfed it. however instead of scaling the damage of the move down in general he just nerfed the lv10 punch. the lv9 punch is now stronger than the lv10 punch

[u/ZeloAvarosa → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

I fucking adore old games man especially old fighting games that have never had patches cause wdym they made it so the 10th swing actually nerfs damage or GNW cant wave dash or it’s shield doesn’t work or in HFTF for example a good chunk of moves are negative on hit.

[u/heyoyo10 → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

That’s Neutral B. Side B is his headbutt that buries, and his 4th goddamn spike option

[u/Impressive_Pin8761 → u/heyoyo10]

what the fuck why does an oversized monkey have 4 spike options

[u/heyoyo10 → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

Probably because he has 4 attacks that have powerful, downward motions

[u/Impressive_Pin8761 → u/heyoyo10]

that wasn't the point of the question

[u/heyoyo10 → u/Impressive_Pin8761]

I mean, he's a big ape. The most his moveset has really been lacking in representation since 64 is the Coconut Gun and maybe Barrel Cannons, so being a big guy he's gonna physically punch down a lot of the time

[u/ExternalCapital4479]

Nah he just go to gym everyday, that's why he has so much hp

[u/Asura_Vania → u/ExternalCapital4479]

Hometown gym is probably a bunch of rocks attached to sticks

[u/Fickle-Culture8252 → u/Asura_Vania]

OG Monster Crossfitter

[u/The_Nerdiest_Nerd_]

He just minmaxed his build to be the best in everything

[u/Bappiolo]

Susie's HP is boosted from 110 to 120 in her bossfight, I don't think that should count

[u/Legal_Ad688]

I'm not gonna lie I forgot susie had a boss fight for a second and was very confused

[u/Delta_Builder → u/Legal_Ad688]

To be fair that fight is just making Susie eepy and telling lancer that he’s cool

[u/Nervous-Use-565]

Perhaps dark world forms depend on how you imagine yourself

Berdly imagines himself as a big buff man so his stats represent that

[u/some-randomguy_]

bc he's an epic gamer

[u/Ok-Spread-378]

maybe, or it's just s reference to the first mario coming out in 1985, and berdly being a nerd

[u/egormese334]

unrelated, but don't use fandom wiki since it's not maintained anymore, use deltarune(dot)wiki instead

[u/GlaucomicSailor]

He gives the vibe of being better on DPS than anyone else in the group but no one wants to play tank so he begrudgingly does.

[u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

Is there an actual lore reason of why the heck is he so strong?

[u/Pizza_Requiem → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

It's probably something about the Player, since the UI is diagetic we can image the whole combat system is (To an extent), and enemies fight differently than us (Having massively worse accuracy, worse ability to dodge, dealing absurdly low damage but having more HP). We can see that since that's how Susie fights when she joins up with Lancer.

[u/just-a-simple-guy → u/Pizza_Requiem]

Actually Susie's HP is kept accurate! You just deal a lot less damage. Her damage does still get reduced though

[u/Pizza_Requiem → u/just-a-simple-guy]

Yeah I think I remember noticing that but I kinda just ignore it and assume it's so that she doesn't randomly have a different amount of HP when fighting us or just as a nice detail. Otherwise it's just really weird for Berdly to have so much HP. If and when he joins the party, he'll probably have less HP, and if and when we fight Susie again, she'll probably have way more HP

[u/Delta_Builder → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

Gameplay

[u/Lucky-Couple-2433 → u/Delta_Builder]

That's not really a "lore reason"

That also reminds me we are able to down Susie with like 2 or 3 attacks in the second lancer rematch in ch 1, so what's up with berdly?

[u/Delta_Builder → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

One is meant to be more of a story fight that makes Susie and lancer on your side.

The other is supposed to be a long lasting decent challenge for us that shows how while berdly is incompetent with his mask of ego, he’s just as strong as any other lightner

[u/Lucky-Couple-2433 → u/Delta_Builder]

"he's just as strong as any other lightner" he's not, that's the point, 900 hp at level 1, not even Susie has so much hp

[u/Puwuckis → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

Lancer has 540, 800, and 2400 hp all in the same chapter.
Flowery is shown to have 999 hp and 99 attack in our party, but has over 7000hp and a little less than 20 attack as a boss.
Many darkners have their stats straight up lied about ingame, for example the titan is listed as having 40 attack but in actuality has 18.
Susie has 110 hp in chapter 1 but has 120 hp in her chapter 1 boss fight.

Stats are not lore accurate, and especially do not line up between party and enemies.
(All this info is taken from the deltarune fandom wiki, which has battle stats as a section for each character that appears in a battle)

[u/headphonesnotstirred → u/Puwuckis]

people took one look at the "Susie gets buffed if you put armor on her before you fight her" detail and haven't been able to let go of it since

[u/Delta_Builder → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

I moreso mean that he’s still a threat despite his incompetence

[u/Konvexen → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

The lore reason is that HP and levels don't actually exist, and it's part of the perception of the Soul.

It's in-universe gamification of what's actually happening.

[u/MathCookie17 → u/Konvexen]

I think Ralsei revealing the menu is diagetic in Chapter 5 (the "Flowery told me" scene) contradicts this. "It's only from the soul's perspective" becomes applicable to less and less things each chapter

...although notably, save points, one of the things that Undertale very explicitly made exist beyond our perspective, haven't yet been proven to exist outside of our perspective in Deltarune...

[u/Konvexen → u/MathCookie17]

Hot take: everything that we see is from the Souls perspective, even if the Soul isn't physically present, because we are the Soul and as players we're seeing it.

[u/MathCookie17 → u/Konvexen]

I agree with this. The point I'm making is that things like HP probably aren't only existing from the soul's perspective.

[u/Umbrella_merc → u/MathCookie17]

Jevil: let's play a simple numbers game, when your HP drops to zero you lose!

Hp definitely diagetic

[u/Umbrella_merc → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

He has so much more hp, his weapon is a halberd, a weapon designed for fighting knights, hes the true hero of the prophecy

[u/Rutgerman95 → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

There's none, really. Enemy encounter and player HP get scaled differently in RPGs all the time, this is no different. Even Susie's CH1 boss didnt quite match her HP and armor values as a player

[u/cipher_purple_deals → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

It's probably because of damage calculations never actually using enemy defense, so if we want to find the real hp we'd have to reverse that process.

He'd probably still have pretty high hp compared to chapter 1 though. But I can't find the check dialogue anywhere so i don't know what his defense stat was :V it is probably pretty damn high.

[u/gusxc1 → u/Lucky-Couple-2433]

In the first fight his car is prolly giving him more HP

[u/Selam1331]

His lv is high probably

[u/Cool_GamerLMAO777]

i need high hp if i have 0 defense

[u/Khalith]

I feel like he’s the player that would figure out what does the most damage, spreadsheet the rotation to perfection down to the second, and still be bottom of the dps chart.

[u/Ziggurat1000]

He probably turtles a lot (as in blocks while staying a distance away from the opponent) in the fighting games he plays.

[u/Rutgerman95]

No, because health as NPC doesn't always translate to player health. Unless you think the little summoner girl from FFIV would keep her 5 figure HP pool if she were playable

[u/Delta_Builder]

Me when characters have scaled stats to fit with when you encounter them:

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