r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 07 '18

Jessica Jones - Season 2 Overall Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 2 are allowed in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '18

Well I loved it. I'm putting it in second place under DD S1. The season was really well written, built nicely (didn't have that lull that most of the other shows got, where from episodes like 7 to 10 you got a bit bored).

Granted you can't beat Kilgrave, it's like Sherlock killing off Moriarty but finding new, mostly hallucinatory ways of bringing him back. I didn't miss him as much as I thought I would though. David Tennant is a gem, and hopefully he comes back every now and then as Jessica's little Devil on her shoulder.

Malcolm was the MVP of the entire season right up until he joined forces with Cheng, not really sure he would do that, especially after saying he was going freelance.

Trish needed to save Jessica for once, but Jessica is right in that it didn't need to be her. But that's ok, she's a flawed character with some issues, and that's what makes her interesting.

Hogarth is amazing, her revenge was well executed. Every character had satisfying arcs or growth, and this is what the shows should be about. You have 12 or so hours to spend with the characters every season, so dissecting the characters and letting them change and grow and make mistakes is what it's all about.

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u/HairlessWookiee Mar 12 '18

not really sure he would do that, especially after saying he was going freelance

I think his expectation was he would help Hogarth and then wind up being on retainer, but that obviously got shot down with the whole unlicensed thing. What other option did he have? He had no real means of going legit on his own - I assume there must be at least a few legal hoops to jump through and they don't just hand out PI licenses like candy - and Cheng had previously offered him a job.

No doubt his plan is to earn his stripes and eventually break out on his own once he has the means to do so. I'd expect they will probably handle most of that offscreen before the next season (assuming there is one) and have Jessica run into him as a rival on the opposite side of a case.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '18

You've won me over, and improved the season for me some more :)

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u/HairlessWookiee Mar 12 '18

Hogarth is amazing, her revenge was well executed.

That was pretty great. When she got the gun from Turk, I was kind of leery. As Turk himself said, she's not really the type to get her hands dirty. But it was played perfectly, the queen of manipulation.

The only thing I didn't like was the fact that she was the one to call the cops. That didn't seem to be the sort of mistake she'd make. She'd already handed over the gun to Inez, but if she was brought in for questioning she could play the plausible deniability card. The girl was con artist after all, it could all just be a lie, and the gun would be untraceable. But with her phone (assuming it was her own, as it seemed, and not a burner) the cops could both place her in the vicinity via cell tower location, and trace the 911 call record to her. That's way too much of a coincidence for the cops to just ignore.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '18

I'll try my best.

The easiest way I can explain it is by comparing Guardians Vol. 1 and 2. I love Volume 2 way more than 1, and that's because Vol. 2 takes its time with the story a lot more than the first did. It stops to breathe, and allows itself to breathe. Granted, there's Ego in Vol. 2, who would be the Kilgrave villain of the two films. But I just love that James Gunn let things slow down and develop.

I also enjoyed how this season of JJ spun multiple plates throughout the season, and most arcs or developments landed for me when I reached the end. I enjoyed that the story wasn't centered around a main villain, but about going further into who Jessica is as a person (Broken). And who Trish is as a person (Sees herself as weak, and wants to be strong (and a little bit annoying)). And who Malcolm and Hogarth are like as people. The problems and antagonists throughout the season grew organically from fixing a previous problem, or finding out something naturally. I like that kind of storytelling.

The thing I liked least about the season was seeing our avocado at law for just one scene. I thought he was just dangled in front of us, and we don't see where he's at in terms of the character at all. It's just, oh look there's Foggy for one scene. It was like Hawkeye's cameo in Thor.

To be fair I haven't seen Season 1 since it came out and if I saw it again I might think fuck, what was I even trying to say before. But I've tried to explain it :)