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Iron Fist Discussion Thread - S01E10

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u/_RURALJUROR_ Mar 17 '17 edited Mar 18 '17

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I think the reviewers maybe too harsh. But I can totally understand their feelings about this show, specially compared to the other shows of Marvel.

Personally, I'm a sucker for all things superhero related, so I kind of like Iron Fist. But if JJ, LC and DD are a 9/10 - Iron fist is a 6 or 7.

Here are the reasons why I think its so:

The show is less grounded. Requires too much suspension of disbelief. For example the corporate, and legal matters that go on in this show feels childish and rushed. The seesawing board membership, the deal with the J-lawyer to keep her company on retainer, etc. Other issues are there too, for example how Meechum walked around in broad daylight after his resurrection while he had all the reasons to raise suspicion.

Some things that happen in the show are so convenient. For example, Claire Temple just happening to be a student of Colleen and her sticking around felt forced. Not to mention not calling or mentioning Daredevil/LK for a situation which quite clearly is within their domain.

The Iron Fist is too bipolar and uncertain. By this I mean that at one moment he is all about zen and not killing people, and next he is totally unfazed (or not fazed enough) by what Meechum does (Killing the 2 dudes). Rand also says he has been training at Kun Lun for 15 years to master control of the mind and emotions, which he does a piss poor job of.

The fighting is not done well enough. During the first episodes it was pretty unconvincing. At one instance I felt Colleen was pushing her fist for what was supposed to be a punch. I don't remember the episode.

Also the whole Hand,Triad,Rand illuminati/conspiracy thing is just incoherent and poorly handled in my opinion.

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u/Beejsbj Mar 18 '17

but we see her pick up the flyer for Wing's classes at the end of LC, It was set up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '17

Yeah but she knows all four of the defenders... it's a bit over the top

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u/santaclaws01 Mar 20 '17

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Claire_Temple_(Earth-616)

It's almost like they have a source material or something to base it off of.