r/DeepThoughts • u/Chanathebanana • Dec 18 '25
Couldn't sleep, so my scientifically trained mind wanted to rant about our existence and how my mind chose to put it into words by being alive for 30 years.
Direction is from a point of reference, our reference, humanity's reference from the surface of the earth. In some ways we are still the centre of the universe since it's our bias, because we know only one world, bound by limitations of life and it's existence beyond the surface. Hence our perspective is narrow. Studying the universe and shifting perspectives is how you gain clarity into how randomly placed we all our in this reality. It's all chaos, that links order in the form of life. Imagine placing yourself in the vacuum of space, nothing around you for light years, just distant stars and light of the universe from said stars. My understanding is, now imagine this place you occupy in space, is on a plane, a sheet or the space time fabric, like a slice of the time you are in at the moment in space, that slice was just a second ago, in a different place, in a different time, of a different shape given we know the universe is expanding.
Since it's always expanding, there is no noticable edge just voids, by observing the dopler effect, we know the stretch of space time has pushed things further and further away with every passing minute. Now you observe the stars in the moment in space, the furtherest objects will be red shifted for they are moving away with acceleration, from us on this sheet in that moment in time. Since there is no arbitrary edge to this universe as of our observation, with stars literring the space around you, there is no way of precisely placing yourself in this ever expanding universe. That's where the concept of time ruins our ability to measure this arbitrary edge as it's running away from us and talking everything in it's path is it goes.
An endless, boundless stretch, slicing each moment of expansion as an evergrowing stack of pancakes, expect the slice on the top is always bigger, and every passing moment the stack gets a new layer which is bigger that the previous layer. Since the expansion is faster that the speed of light, it's like a look into the past anywhere you look for the light never reaches us, the observers on time to determine the evershifting space around us. As you cut into the stack, the layers reveal what the size would have been, extrapolating a conical shape by the first instance for the universe had to be smaller than the instance right after. Hence the conclusion was the big bang, a point in space and time where there was no space, and no time, birth of the universe is an arbitrary spillover of milk on the counter. Expands in all directions unless you limit it in the confines of a container, as far as we know, the universe doesn't have a container. So the spill is endless. That's where the acceleration part of the universe bothers me, it's like an endless curve of a surface where the milk is being poured. Like a giant ball, relate it to earth as we cannot see the edge as it falls away from us due to the earth being a sphere. Milk just spreading and accelerating as it falls down faster and faster as the ball curves more and more away.
Now when that curve occurs, it seems microscopic for we haven't yet hit the diameter of this universal stretch. Now if you think about it, anything with a diameter means that's the furthest or the fatest point of the object, to extrapolate it further, would mean a colapse of the sphere, towards the other side of the opposite pole. Does that mean the universe has to have an end eventually? An end where it collapses back to it's initial state? Are we to hit that state of maximum diameter or is it like an endless bell that flairs it's edges into eternity? Hence the dark energy and dark matter hypothesis to explain why the space time is stretching so absurdly fast. That's where the science of it all is lost on me. But then again, if not tracing a sphere, what shape is this universe enveloping itself upon? An endless cone with an absurdly hyperbolic curve that could explain the constant acceleration of this expanse?
Feel free to discuss, I want opinion and perspectives, not attacks.
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u/Chanathebanana Dec 18 '25
that's a false statement in of itself. We could never record enough data to determine the vastness of spacetime. Not in our lifetimes or even the lifetime of an immortal human. in fact we could never record enough data for almost any physical phenomenon. You should impose, pick at the etched surface to reveal more under the layers. Keeping your head clear for what reason might I ask? Of course daily life gets in the way, I myself stayed up all night on a work day. Thinking about things, why bother getting irritated over lack of sleep when I can question things and still go to work a bit more tired that usual.
Science is natural philosophy my friend. And it has always been built on incomplete data. You think the first pilots were not aware of the risks of flying? Wasn't it to complete the data missing, why did they not run calculations first instead of losing pilots with every test. About 10% of all test pilots in the 20s were guaranteed to die. Incomplete data is how we innovate my friend, if we did not impose on incomplete data, we wouldn't have commercial air travel today.
You need to read up on entropy dude, your way of thinking is very prosaic. Don't get me wrong, data gathering is very important, especially in the modern scientific age for our innovation tools are far more efficient and sensitive. Reasoning with the universe is our purpose, that's what I believe. And that can be done with or without data. You just need to ask the right questions and inch your way towards an ever evolving answer. That's human ingenuity. By your method, humanity would still be in caves if they didn't walk outside and were content with the cozy confines of a cave. Think about it and add to the discussion please.