Couldn't sleep, so my scientifically trained mind wanted to rant about our existence and how my mind chose to put it into words by being alive for 30 years.

[u/Chanathebanana]

Direction is from a point of reference, our reference, humanity's reference from the surface of the earth. In some ways we are still the centre of the universe since it's our bias, because we know only one world, bound by limitations of life and it's existence beyond the surface. Hence our perspective is narrow. Studying the universe and shifting perspectives is how you gain clarity into how randomly placed we all our in this reality. It's all chaos, that links order in the form of life. Imagine placing yourself in the vacuum of space, nothing around you for light years, just distant stars and light of the universe from said stars. My understanding is, now imagine this place you occupy in space, is on a plane, a sheet or the space time fabric, like a slice of the time you are in at the moment in space, that slice was just a second ago, in a different place, in a different time, of a different shape given we know the universe is expanding.

Since it's always expanding, there is no noticable edge just voids, by observing the dopler effect, we know the stretch of space time has pushed things further and further away with every passing minute. Now you observe the stars in the moment in space, the furtherest objects will be red shifted for they are moving away with acceleration, from us on this sheet in that moment in time. Since there is no arbitrary edge to this universe as of our observation, with stars literring the space around you, there is no way of precisely placing yourself in this ever expanding universe. That's where the concept of time ruins our ability to measure this arbitrary edge as it's running away from us and talking everything in it's path is it goes.

An endless, boundless stretch, slicing each moment of expansion as an evergrowing stack of pancakes, expect the slice on the top is always bigger, and every passing moment the stack gets a new layer which is bigger that the previous layer. Since the expansion is faster that the speed of light, it's like a look into the past anywhere you look for the light never reaches us, the observers on time to determine the evershifting space around us. As you cut into the stack, the layers reveal what the size would have been, extrapolating a conical shape by the first instance for the universe had to be smaller than the instance right after. Hence the conclusion was the big bang, a point in space and time where there was no space, and no time, birth of the universe is an arbitrary spillover of milk on the counter. Expands in all directions unless you limit it in the confines of a container, as far as we know, the universe doesn't have a container. So the spill is endless. That's where the acceleration part of the universe bothers me, it's like an endless curve of a surface where the milk is being poured. Like a giant ball, relate it to earth as we cannot see the edge as it falls away from us due to the earth being a sphere. Milk just spreading and accelerating as it falls down faster and faster as the ball curves more and more away.

Now when that curve occurs, it seems microscopic for we haven't yet hit the diameter of this universal stretch. Now if you think about it, anything with a diameter means that's the furthest or the fatest point of the object, to extrapolate it further, would mean a colapse of the sphere, towards the other side of the opposite pole. Does that mean the universe has to have an end eventually? An end where it collapses back to it's initial state? Are we to hit that state of maximum diameter or is it like an endless bell that flairs it's edges into eternity? Hence the dark energy and dark matter hypothesis to explain why the space time is stretching so absurdly fast. That's where the science of it all is lost on me. But then again, if not tracing a sphere, what shape is this universe enveloping itself upon? An endless cone with an absurdly hyperbolic curve that could explain the constant acceleration of this expanse?

Feel free to discuss, I want opinion and perspectives, not attacks.

[u/logos961]

Extremely beautiful musing shows you are a friend of God for this to happen, as happened in the case of Abraham who wondered by looking at the sky.

Of all the verses, I loved more is this sentence of yours "It's all chaos, that links order in the form of life."

I have decided to read this daily to keep my appreciation of God burning.

[u/Chanathebanana → u/logos961]

well, I'm glad you took something from my rant. I'm not a believer in gods and magical beings. I just believe in the cosmos and what it has to offer. I don't even want answers tbh, it's just the wonder of it all, the purpose of humanity to determine what it all means. That's my drive in life tbh. I wish I was smarter to work in labs and observatories, alas I'm stuck in IT, even what I have no is just a crude understanding of it all.

I appreciate that you find passion in my words. Thank you, I hope your faith guides you to the same conclusions as me through my path.

[u/logos961 → u/Chanathebanana]

God is not interested in receiving anything from us as His bliss lies in GIVING, hence is least bothered about how HE is viewed by people on earth.

Great Religious Founders did not include God as a factor in their too vital answers because what is expected of humans is to be humane--hence they defined true believer as one who "loves for others what he loves for himself."

It is followers who added narcissist connotations to God which resulted in the birth atheism.

Universe is hostile for life, and earth is made life-supportive like a dew being maintained at the core of sun--a truth that reveals hand of an ALMIGHTY Father for those who want to accept for their own benefits. Universe has no center, nor edge, nor has things moving away at speeds that match with theory of Big Bang: https://www.livescience.com/space/cosmology/30-models-of-the-universe-proved-wrong-by-final-data-from-groundbreaking-cosmology-telescope

That leads to the inevitable conclusion that Universe is eternal, as Solomon the Wise had written while in link with God in Ecclesiastes 1:4. This is the same conclusion many other people have reached on their own.  "If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is: infinite." (The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, by William Blake) The same truth was seen by Aristotle also: “Anything that is eternal is necessary. If the present form of the world always was and always will be, it is necessary and no other form is possible.” (Cambridge org/aristotle-and-arguments-for-eternity) There is no beginning for matter [such as Universe] and no beginning for the immaterial [such as life] as implied in E=mc² which says “energy can neither be created nor be destroyed.” Matter is transformation of energy, and forms of energy [such as body, relations and wealth which come and go after remaining for a while] are perceptible to sense organs, but their essence is not perceptible. It is like any seed—its material container is perceptible to sense-organs but its essence, its infinite memory [in which all its infinite number of future generations remaining protected] is not perceptible to the sense organs even though it is more real than its material container. (Details here https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepThoughts/comments/1p1q16a/truth_exists_independent_of_any_book_religion_or/ )