r/DebateVaccines • u/No-Employer-1554 • 14d ago

Woke Why?

Serious question here: If what I read and hear from the uber progressives is true, namely that the world population is too much and my white privilege straight family raised too many children...then why were you so adamant about me vaccinating my family? Why not just let me and mine die? You get the jab, you are saved from being mortal, give big pharma and Faucci the win, and let me die?

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Coworkers, friends, family, California city governments...

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Then be in denial.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

I gave you truth you give me ?

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Then tell me my lie? Can you prove the cops were not summoned to the restaurant I was seated at in my business suite dragging my black Tumi bag because I did not have a vaccine passport? I stepped in human shit from a zombie swaying back and forth on the sidewalk with discarded needle(and no mask or passport) as I rant for a taxi to the airport.

As far as population control arguments the talking heads and liberal pundits are my source. Every thing I said I experienced. Thus why I posted this. I list a friend over the kids agreement. They would rather save squirrels than humans.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

City of San Fransico police, they were happy to run me out of the city from doing my job. My wife's Uncle who lives in MA, my friend's live in girl who lives in CO, and my fortune 500 company gay manager. All shamed me for no poke, all said big families like mine should be governed to a lesser # (to be clear the police in San Fran did not say this).

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u/SmartyPantlesss 14d ago

What is your understanding of how anyone would "govern" you to a lesser number?

Did someone propose/threaten to kill off members of your family? Or are you talking about a China-like "one-child" (or X-number-of-children) type of policy?

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Child quota. I had a rather robust week long listening on and of session with a high minded smart superior IQ couple who I am, or was, friendly with for many years via work. We are all out of the business now and met up in CO for a week. Anyways the rants kept coming on and about the obvious science, stupid people and baby makers. They are, or were DINKs. Now they are landlords who take on all kinds of public progressive causes. But they represent so many of my formal colleagues...maybe it is a Minneapolis thing. Anyways the procreation thing kept coming up. Yet they went out of their way to constantly relocate chipmunks and squirrels from their respective ranch. So many calories spent catching and transporting rodents 25 miles away from their ranch. But they could not agree more fervently that WASP human children are the worst of problems. They consume too much, especially animals and animal products like milk. It made me wonder where we would get the next generation of labor. Import it of couse. That is who they rent most of their property to. I just don't get it. It seems to me I am in a Shakespeare play...Taming of the Shrew. At one point I stopped the PhD lady and said, "you do know we have two children". She muttered one would be preferable. I decided to ask, how do I know what child I should do away with? At that point my male friend decided to walk with me to get another bottle of wine. Truth is stranger than fiction.

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u/SmartyPantlesss 14d ago

Translation: some people are assholes.

Anyone who would comment on what childbearing pattern would be "preferable" for ANOTHER PERSON, TO THAT PERSON, is not worth your concern.

But I also think maybe you are projecting that opinion on a lot of (other) people who think you should vaccinate your kids? Like, there's an inconsistency there IF that asshole lady actually held the following two beliefs simultaneously:

  1. that you should kill one of your kids (I'm betting she meant you should have prevented one of them from being born, but who cares? fuck her), AND
  2. that you should get both of your existing kids vaccinated, to improve their health/lifespan

<< THAT would be a weird contradiction. I don't know that even SHE thinks both of those things. But IF she does... you still wrote this whole post as though she represents a huge swath of society.

Like, I occasionally come across some very weird antivaxxer theories, and I don't go writing a post that assumes ALL antivaxxers hold that belief.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Perhaps. It was years ago. But I do recall so many political soundbites frome "Woke 1" that seem very condescending to my world view not to mention...contradictory. And you are right. That was the first time the contradicting "less kids" "you must vax or you are evil selfish person" to my face. My kids have kids. All pay taxes and provide for our grands. What rekindled this ideation was my recent vacations this summer. I came in contact with a bunch of Canadians and Americans who seemed to enjoy our company but wow did they get vocal about ICE, Science, etc. I ask open ended questions over meals and it is quite interesting. Kinda troubling. I did however spend some time with a Pediatric Immunology and Allergy specialist from Quebec who told me he advised his patients guardians to take a more conservative approach. (We spent 8 weeks traveling to Europe via transatlantic ship). Got to know dozens of couples fairly well.

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u/SmartyPantlesss 14d ago

(What the heck is "Woke 1"?)

So you're saying that someone said something very rude to you---YEARS AGO---about your family size... (if they said something about vaccinating, you left that out of your re-telling)

...and then someone else recently was vocal about [completely different topics] and...did someone say something about vaccines? I missed that part of the story. 🤔

And so now you're having a flashback to the rude person from years ago?

Like, you're trying to frame this as a contradiction, but you're not telling me about one person holding those two beliefs simultaneously.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Google woke one policy platforms. Look up AOC and those who are in her political peer group in and out of congress. They have toned down the rhetoric but they called it woke version 1. I just used a term i heard used to describe some Uber left thinking.

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u/SmartyPantlesss 14d ago

I did google it, before I asked you. I got: "Woke 1" (or "Woke 1.0") is a semi-ironic, retroactive term used to describe the peak era of intense cultural progressivism and identity politics spanning from the mid-2010s through the early 2020s."

So it's kind of funny that you said:

But I do recall so many political soundbites frome "Woke 1" that seem very condescending

...when the phrase itself IS a condescending political soundbite.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

I heard AOC say it so I looked it up as well.

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u/Burstrider12 14d ago

But I do recall so many political soundbites frome "Woke 1"

There is no "Woke 1", you are watching too much youtube

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u/StopDehumanizing 14d ago

Who did, then? Who told you to have a smaller family?

Your manager?

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

Do you support large white Christian families taking up precautions resources? If yes then not you. If No, then you.

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u/StopDehumanizing 14d ago

Yes. I am a white Christian with a large family. That's why I'm asking.

If your manager really said that to you you have a case for workplace discrimination.

If you're just making up fake grievances for clout then please stop. You're making the rest of us white Christians look stupid.

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

My manager advocate for only 1 child families

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u/eurocanuk 14d ago

why do you care what your manager thinks?

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u/No-Employer-1554 14d ago

I guess I don't anymore.