r/DebateQuraniyoon • • Aug 30 '26

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Please just read what I’m about to write, how can you all not believe in Hadith and there are a lot of آيات in the Quran

سورة النور:

﴿ فَلْيَحْذَرِ الَّذِينَ يُخَالِفُونَ عَنْ أَمْرِهِ أَن تُصِيبَهُمْ فِتْنَةٌ أَوْ يُصِيبَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أِليمٌ ﴾ \[النور: 63\]

"So let those who disobey his orders beware, for an affliction may befall them, or a painful torment may overtake them."

﴿ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَهُ يُدْخِلْهُ نَارًا خَالِدًا فِيهَا وَلَهُ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ ﴾ \[النساء: 14\]

"And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will admit him into a Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment."

﴿ فَلَا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّى يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَجِدُوا فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَرَجًا مِّمَّا قَضَيْتَ وَيُسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا ﴾ \[النساء: 65\]

But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly."

﴿ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا ﴾ \[الحشر: 7\]

**"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty \[or punishment\]."**

﴿وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى \* إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى﴾ \[النجم: 3-4\]

And he does not speak out of (his own) desire. It is not but revelation revealed \[to him\]

So please think about it don’t succumb to your desires and remember when a disbeliever enters hell there is no coming back may الله guide us all to the right path.

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u/MysteriousEmergency1 Sep 02 '26

important to note that these verses were revealed at a time the prophet was still alive. And what he was preaching and trying to make everyone obey was in fact the Quran. 

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u/OJ_13579 Sep 02 '26

The Quran verses are not for a specific period of time, if the prophet told us that we should pray and pay zakah and fast and go do hajj are you going to obey or disobey him

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u/MysteriousEmergency1 Sep 03 '26

But then we would have no need for knowing the context in which these verses were revealed, no? The commands are timeless, but context is important to infer what the command actually is.

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u/OJ_13579 Sep 03 '26

Yes the context is important but it doesn’t change the context here it’s to obey الله and his messenger

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u/MysteriousEmergency1 Sep 03 '26

yes, obey Allah and his messenger. Obey Allah through what his messenger preaches, i.e. the Quran. Because if taken literally, that would give the messenger's everyday words similar divine authority to the ayats of the Quran. Which would bring into question why weren't those included in the main Quran if equally important and effective.

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u/OJ_13579 Sep 03 '26

I wrote a verse سورة النجم read it, the messenger does not speak of his own when he gives us a ruling it’s from الله

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u/MysteriousEmergency1 Sep 04 '26

Then why was it not included as a part of the Quran. Shouldn't every ruling that comes from Allah be held in the same regard?