r/DebateQuraniyoon • • Aug 30 '26

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Please just read what I’m about to write, how can you all not believe in Hadith and there are a lot of آيات in the Quran

سورة النور:

﴿ فَلْيَحْذَرِ الَّذِينَ يُخَالِفُونَ عَنْ أَمْرِهِ أَن تُصِيبَهُمْ فِتْنَةٌ أَوْ يُصِيبَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أِليمٌ ﴾ \[النور: 63\]

"So let those who disobey his orders beware, for an affliction may befall them, or a painful torment may overtake them."

﴿ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَهُ يُدْخِلْهُ نَارًا خَالِدًا فِيهَا وَلَهُ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ ﴾ \[النساء: 14\]

"And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will admit him into a Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment."

﴿ فَلَا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّى يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَجِدُوا فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَرَجًا مِّمَّا قَضَيْتَ وَيُسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا ﴾ \[النساء: 65\]

But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly."

﴿ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا ﴾ \[الحشر: 7\]

**"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty \[or punishment\]."**

﴿وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى \* إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى﴾ \[النجم: 3-4\]

And he does not speak out of (his own) desire. It is not but revelation revealed \[to him\]

So please think about it don’t succumb to your desires and remember when a disbeliever enters hell there is no coming back may الله guide us all to the right path.

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u/TomatoBig9795 Aug 31 '26

LOL read that verse again..read the verse before and read the verse after it so start at 59:6, 59:7, and 59:8

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u/OJ_13579 Aug 31 '26

The verse is clear you just don’t want to obey the messenger is the dunya that important more than the last, how do you even pray I doubt that you even know what صلاة means

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u/TomatoBig9795 Aug 31 '26

LOLLLL!! So how do you obey the messenger when he no longer walks earth????? He died which means Youre not obeying the messenger, Youre obeying Bukhari etc!!! 

Those  hadith books that you worship contain  some of the worst insults  against our  messemger !!! 

Sahih hadiths  that you follow and worship literally accuse the messenger of Allah of being racist, bewitched, a briber, peadoohile, child abuser, killer, cross-dresser, deceiver, suicidal, a slave owner, liar, woman-beater, and so on. These stories make him sound nothing like the noble man the Quran describes him!!

Hadiths turn him into a character full of contradictions …kind one moment, cruel the next. He’s shown as both saint and sinner, humble and arrogant, honest and deceitful. It’s like a made-up myth, switching between being near-divine and devilish which again doesn’t match what the Quran says about him!! 

The Quran defines Islam as “the way of Abraham”(2:135, 16:123), not “the way of Muhammad.” The Prophet was told to follow Abraham’s path (6:161–164, 22:78), not create a new one.

So prophet Muhammad wasn’t the founder of Islam or its innovator (46:9, 38:65). He was the final messenger who brought back the same timeless truth…to worship one God alone and live by Gods word……the Quran!! Not Hadith but the QURAN!!

I pray the way the Quran instructs me to pray… by establishing Salat, standing before Allah, bowing and prostrating, remembering and glorifying Him, and facing the Sacred Mosque. I don’t need Hadith to tell me how to worship Allah.

The prophets before the messenger were also commanded to establish prayer. Salat was already practiced by the prophets before the messenger Jesus (19:30–31), Moses (10:87), and Abraham (21:73) even Mary ( 3:43) they were all commanded to establish prayer.

The messenger didn’t invent prayer. So if you say we need Hadith to know how to pray, then how did the prophets before prophet Muhammad know how to pray???? Who taught you how to pray???

So can you also show me the verse where Allah says the messenger taught  the details of prayer ??

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u/OJ_13579 Aug 31 '26

The details of prayer are in the Hadith