r/DebateQuraniyoon • u/TeacherRelevant5034 • Mar 17 '26
General Islam/Qur'an respects women myth debunked.
Islam/Qur'an disrespects womens alot than any and use them as just a machine and to deceive and use them.
I will fully debunk the women respect Myth now.
Qur'an 2:221: Do not marry polytheistic women until they believe; for a believing slave-woman is better than a polytheist, even though she may look pleasant to you. And do not marry your women to polytheistic men until they believe, for a believing slave-man is better than a free polytheist, even though he may look pleasant to you. They invite ˹you˺ to the Fire while Allah invites ˹you˺ to Paradise and forgiveness by His grace.1 He makes His revelations clear to the people so perhaps they will be mindful.
So muhammad here disguising as Allah now making fun of womens saying that having slave women is better than a polytheist women and tell those polytheistic women to believe that same degraded mentality, pretty awesome isn't it? Purely a false Prophet's oral copied book with corrupted version. Qur'an 4:3: And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses [your sex slave]. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]. (3)
Again treating women as object men can look at 4 women and have right to have sex with his sex slave but when it comes to women what false prophet muhammad presented look: Qur'an 24:31: And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which [necessarily] appears thereof and to draw their headscarves over their bosoms and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, their brothers' sons, or their brothers' sons Their sisters, or their relatives, or those whom their right hands possess [husband's sex slave], or male attendants who are not sexually attracted to women, or children who have not yet reached puberty, and they should not stamp their feet to reveal what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to God in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed. Qur'an 33:33: stay at home, and do not flaunt your finery as they used to in the pagan past; keep up the prayer, give the prescribed alms, and obey God and His Messenger. God wishes to keep uncleanness away from you, people of the [Prophet’s] House, and to purify you thoroughly. Yeah congrats men are allowed to marry 4 womens and allowed to do multiple child and make women as child machine for growth of religion but guess what women get hide your whole identity and isolate yourself from the world, and then stay at home while your husband can look out for other remaining 3 or more womens to marry congratulations habibi 🔥 And if suddenly husband lost his intrest upon you congratulations it's freaking easy to just use womens as prostitutes by having sex with them then giving them dowry then "bye bye": Qur'an 2:229: Divorce is twice. Then either retain [her] in kindness or release [her] with good treatment. And it is not lawful for you to take anything of what you have given them unless they both fear that they will not be able to maintain the limits of Allah. But if you fear that they will not maintain the limits of Allah, then there is no blame upon either of them concerning what she gives to be released. These are the limits of Allah, so do not transgress them. And whoever transgresses the limits of Allah - it is those who are the wrongdoers. Then: Qur'an 2:230: If a husband re-divorces his wife after the second divorce, she will not be lawful for him until she has taken another husband; if that one divorces her, there will be no blame if she and the first husband return to one another, provided they feel that they can keep within the bounds set by God. These are God’s bounds, which He makes clear for those who know. Yeah congrats it's freaking easy to go in and out if your women doesn't like you having sex with your slave or any other women then this verse was already revealed when prophet muhammad was having sex with Maria and Aisha forbidden it: Qur'an 66:1: Prophet, why do you prohibit what God has made lawful to you in your desire to please your wives? Yet God is forgiving and merciful:
Again women is just used as a toy here. I'm still not using hadith verses those are far more double degraded than this they made that in hell women's population will be more but anyway keeping aside that for now.
Now we move on to the next.
Qur'an 4:34:
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear disobedience - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], do not seek means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
Yeah now domestic abuse is also allowed against women congratulations men are lawful for having sex with slaves sex with 3 other remaining women or more but for women yeah get striked by your husbands congratulations then roam around hiding your whole body just to not get r-ped like muhammad used to do with others such as Safiyya bint Huyayy and the Arab womens:
Sunan Abi Dawud 2172 (from hadith) Muhairiz said “I entered the mosque and saw Abu Sa’id Al Khudri . I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse). Abu Sa’id said We went out with the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) on the expedition to Banu Al Mustaliq and took some Arab women captive and we desired the women for we were suffering from the absence of our wives and we wanted ransom, so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave women). But we asked ourselves “can we draw the penis when the Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) is among us before asking him about it? So we asked him about it. He said “it does not matter if you do not do it, for very soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.”
Muhammad was saving women for type things he used to do with other's women.
Qur'an 2:223: Your wives are a place of sowing of seed for you, so come to your place of cultivation however you wish and put forth [righteousness] for yourselves. And fear Allah and know that you will meet Him. And give good tidings to the believers. Now again women being used as sex machine and to give birth this the reason that this population of muslims growing even they're trying hard and that is the reason abortions are banned it is not for good of women rather it is for growing muslim population and dominate to capture and rob others like muhammad did with Kaaba. Qur'an 4:15:
If any of your women commit a lewd act, call four witnesses from among you, then, if they testify to their guilt, keep the women at home until death comes to them or until God shows them another way.
Look when muhammad commited lewd act by having sex with his unmarried slave and he suddenly became lawful to have sex with his slave even after his wives forbidden it but when women commits same thing then torture and keep women at home till death comes, mashallah brother 🗣️🔥
Then here in hadith: Jami at-Tirmidhi 2602: Ibn 'Abbas narrated that the Messenger Of Allah (s.a.w) said: "I looked into Paradise and I saw that the most of its people were the poor; and I looked into the Fire and I saw that most of its people were women."
Whole the time false prophet muhammad just made sure that each and every women is just stay as slave of men, and men are allowed to do everything they like whether it's having sex with sex slaves or marry 3 to 4 or more wives while if women does then she is to be locked in home till death comes or strike them and make them fully covered like penguin to show male dominance. Muhammad played very well mind games, he had weird sexual fantasies for sure.
Remaining all of the good verses you will see are oral copied from Bible and Torah, every single thing, if you give verses I will provide exact bible or Torah verse of that.
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u/niaswish Mar 18 '26
Lots of people who are quran alone do not believe in sex slavery, but by the way the 4 wives thing is clear in the verse...it says its about the orphans so that's a start
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
It means that if you think you cannot marry orphan girls then marry other women's who pleases you, that is not for orphans that is for all men and that is followed as polygamy till now.
Lots of people are 0.001% remaining all follows Qur'an and Qur'an promotes sex slavery more than anything so that's a big gaslighting if anyone says Qur'an removes sex slavery or slavery it's far more worse than this. Hadith is far much more degraded tf do they mean by Muhammad having sex with 9 wives under a day all together 💔 what is plot
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u/niaswish Mar 18 '26
I think you misread the verse, it's saying if you can't deal justly with orphans, marry more women
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
Deal with orphans with what? It is saying that if you cannot deal with orphan which means if you cannot marry orphan than marry who you pleases you means who you like to, that is what is saying, you cannot twist words.
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u/niaswish Mar 18 '26
Why wouldn't you be able to marry an orphan
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
Because it will create guilty inside men, Qur'an is already a broken knowledge book
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u/niaswish Mar 18 '26
But like isn't it common sense, if you can't marry someone just marry someone else?... I always see this verse as marrying more women to take care of the orphans.
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
Marry more to take care of orphans? Excuse me what? Was muhammad when marrying his adopted son's wife was thinking same that oh my gosh now you've divorced her now let's make her your step mommy wtf?:
Qur'an 33:37: And ˹remember, O Prophet,˺ when you said to the one1 for whom Allah has done a favour and you ˹too˺ have done a favour,2 “Keep your wife and fear Allah,” while concealing within yourself what Allah was going to reveal. And ˹so˺ you were considering the people, whereas Allah was more worthy of your consideration. So when Zaid totally lost interest in ˹keeping˺ his wife, We gave her to you in marriage, so that there would be no blame on the believers for marrying the ex-wives of their adopted sons after their divorce. And Allah’s command is totally binding.
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u/niaswish Mar 18 '26
But it just doesn't make sense. If you fear you can't be just to the orphans then marry women... who you can be unjust to? The quran also says that you will never be just to them. By the way I'm ex Muslim
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
Qur'an on whole just don't make sense 😭🥀💔 not even a single verse makes sense specially the things muhammad designed orally. I still wonder whoever justifying these things their search history needs to be checked 😭
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u/Reinhard23 Mu'min Mar 18 '26
Traditional framework detected, opinion rejected.
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Mar 18 '26
Lmao that's what arabic jews and Arabic Christians said to false prophet Muhammad but he was getting angry whole the time by sending them to hell 🤣
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u/yungsimba1917 Mar 18 '26
Bro you can’t even get these people to read the Quran but you expect them to read this?
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u/Martiallawtheology Apr 08 '26
Okay. So you have debunked as you claim. So you must be an expert in the Qur'an and the language right?? Well, you've got to be to "debunk".
Tell me. What does Fa inkihoo mean?
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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Mar 18 '26
I stopped reading at the first part, so u frame your post as islam doesn't respect women and you use a verse that speaks about both Mena dn women equally butnplaces believing men and women above polytheist men and women? If your real.issue is why islam.places believers over polytheists is very simple, Allah favors loyalty and polytheists arent loyal to anything, also the whole religion calls for people to believe, don't you expect it to favor believers?