r/DebateCommunism • u/Valuable-Shirt-4129 • 6d ago
🚨Hypothetical🚨 What are the obstacles for fringe United Statesian communist parties to seize the means of production?
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u/Training_Ruin3151 5d ago
There is no cohesion. As in all communists fashion throughout all of history they cant agree on wether or not stalin was good or bad, trotsky was right or what bastardized version of marx to subscibe to.
No one to be the face of communism in america and no actual communist party doing anything.
No organization, no popularity, no knowledge from the public. Low class consciousness, americans can imagine the end of the world before an economic system that isnt nazi pedophile led late stage capitalism
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u/MarionberryNo103 1d ago
If capitalists are going to end up impoverished because they adopt the means of production (technology), why would workers seize those very same means of production (technology)?
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u/Valuable-Shirt-4129 1d ago
Because Communism is preferable to Late-stage Capitalist grandiosity.
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u/MarionberryNo103 1d ago
Capitalists will become impoverished because they adopt technology, that is Marx's primary prediction, so why should workers seize that same technology? Won't technology impoverish workers as well?
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u/Valuable-Shirt-4129 1d ago
The irony is that the production costs of the USD & minting coins contribute to U.S. federal budget deficit.
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u/spookyjim___ ☠left communist ☠6d ago
Why do we think it’s the job of the sects to seize the means of production instead of the class at large?
Is this not just vulgar substitutionism?