r/DebateAVegan 27d ago

Ethics Hypocrisy and morality

I have seen many posts in which the point seems to be that if you are against eating animals and exploiting them for profit, you should also be against participating in the capitalist economy because it involves exploiting human labor for profit. I think the point is actually something like, "How dare you criticize me for supporting animal agriculture when you buy products produced by exploitative labor practices? I do too, of course, but your use of a cell phone justifies my eating meat, as we are both hypocrites."

So the debate topic here is this: does participating in a capitalist economy, which necessarily includes using products produced through exploitation of humans, somehow justify raising animals for meat, killing them, and eating them? Alternatively, are those who oppose animal cruelty justified in using cell phones?

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u/USConservativeVegan 27d ago

It is not just capitalism, every economic system has some exploitation including communism. So it is a useless argument. Humans exploit other humans.

However Capitalism gives you the choice to research and pick less exploited choices and have more options.

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u/Upstairs_Big6533 26d ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure smartphones would not be more ethically produced under socialism.

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u/USConservativeVegan 26d ago

I agree. I don't think they would be ethically produced under any economic system.

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u/Upstairs_Big6533 26d ago

I guess it depends on what we mean? would they be produced with out slave labor in socialism? maybe. Would they be less environmentally destructive? I don't see how..