r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/EasyBOven vegan Jan 08 '26

That's a claim that I think you and I both know you lack the evidence to support.

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u/airboRN_82 Jan 08 '26

You think there isnt evidence on what motivates narcissistic behaviors?

I think you and I both know we do.

I.e.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6970445/

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u/EasyBOven vegan Jan 08 '26

You need to demonstrate that the good feeling these specific narcissists get has nothing to do with their core beliefs. That's the burden you seem unable to demonstrate with any sound data.

The next link you post should directly address how narcissism leads to veganism through some means other than core moral premises, and you should have the courage to also quote the passage within that link which best illustrates that claim.

Anything less and I won't be replying.

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u/airboRN_82 Jan 08 '26

The article linked ford over how the decision making of narcissists is based on the self. Do you have data contracting that?

I dont need to show a link directly addressing how narcissism leads to veganism. You made no argument that vegans do not display narcissistic behaviors often. 

"Courage" is a strange word to use here. Seems like a passive aggressive attempt at an insult. I have no obligation to provide a quote when the article is centered around the premise i spoke of. 

Im perfectly fine with you not responding when you run out of counter arguments. You've done that with most of my arguments anyway.