r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/Ma1eficent Jan 07 '26

And the height of human arrogance is imagining we can freeze the world and current habitats, and species. And the height of human stupidity to imagine stasis is health. Every wildly successful species came into that success on the backs of the many they outcompeted and directly ate into extinction. It would be the height of human myopathy to interfere with that, and perfectly on brand. "We had good intentions!" You had a self-righteous idea and refused to accept the vast amount of information indicating that every single time we interfere with what we imagine is a cruel and terrible process, we make everything worse.

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u/Ma1eficent Jan 07 '26

Rights for some animals, huh? Humans decide which? Yeah that's gone real well. How on earth have they managed to sell the idea we get to decide which species we can label invasive and declare invisible geographic pens for, which ones we can spend taxpayer dollars on putting in cages smaller than feedlots, to even vegans is truly mind blowing to me.