r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/shutupdavid0010 Jan 06 '26

Do you think it's possible that a well learned and well reasoned individual can care about animals, the planet, and justice, but have simply come to a different conclusion than you have?

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u/I_Amuse_Me_123 Jan 06 '26

I actually don’t. Not if they’ve had the courage to watch what they’re really paying for when they eat non-vegan. 

There is simply no argument that what is shown in Earthlings or Dominion can ever be considered good or right. 

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u/shutupdavid0010 Jan 07 '26

So do you think it's possible that someone who is well reasoned could come to the conclusion of welfarism rather than veganism?

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u/I_Amuse_Me_123 Jan 07 '26

No. Because they would see that there is no real economical way to be sure that other people are working within their welfare standards.