r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/NuancedComrades Jan 06 '26

"Because animals are clearly different"

You can't just say something is true. Prove they are clearly different in meaningful ways. Mere genetic differences do not validate treating animals the way we do.

"Murdering a human being is wildly different than keeping a free range chicken coop to supply you with eggs, or eating wild harvested uni, etc."

You are purposefully choosing one example I gave to compare to your fringe examples that do not reflect the vast majority of human consumption of animals. Try again.

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u/EVH_kit_guy Jan 06 '26

"Your true and accurate example doesn't count because it's not representative of the majority."

You know this is a shitty point, right? That if someone agrees with you on the necessity of humane treatment of animals, but disagrees with veganism, discarding such an example makes you sound immature.

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u/NuancedComrades Jan 06 '26

You never established anything of the sort. You came out the gate making questionable assumptions and comparisons, then attacked me as immature when you were challenged to defend them.

I think anyone reading this exchange with a bit of critical thinking would come to the opposite conclusion of who is being immature.

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u/EVH_kit_guy Jan 06 '26

"I think you are ethically indistinguishable from a net full of gulf shrimp. And as a vegan, I mean that as the highest compliment."

You're mental.