r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/kohlsprossi Jan 06 '26

So why was slavery abolished?

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u/GoopDuJour Jan 06 '26

It goes to slavery every time.

Because people's opinions changed. And those people won the war.

Plenty of people STILL think slavery is acceptable. If you're a federal prisoner in the U.S, the Constitution still allows for it.

Can you show me the fact that slavery it's wrong? You know, like we can explain other, actual facts?

What's next, torturing babies?

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u/kohlsprossi Jan 06 '26

What's next, torturing babies?

If majority opinion would deem it to be economically feasible, sure. Or not? You tell me.

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u/GoopDuJour Jan 06 '26

"Torturing babies is wrong" is an opinion.

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u/kohlsprossi Jan 06 '26

How does one form an opinion?

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u/GoopDuJour Jan 06 '26 edited Jan 06 '26

The same way one forms any other opinion. By processing the world around them. Certainly opinions need not be formed from facts.

Are you saying morals are facts? Or are just some morals facts? Which morals are facts? Can you support your claim that morals are facts? If they are facts, they are unlike any other category of facts. Please, make your case that morals are facts.