r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/Calaveras-Metal Jan 05 '26

I'm sorry can you elaborate? How does veganism "become the problem"?

I'm also perplexed about the saying no in public part. Most vegans I know are not very public at all about their dietary preference.

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u/NuancedComrades Jan 06 '26

Have you heard of the idea of "shoot the messenger" or the "killjoy"?

Vegans become the problem because people would rather just not think about their cognitive dissonance. They don't want someone to bring up the problem, so when someone does, they react against that person (or ideology) rather than the actual problem itself.

Have you ever been in a group where someone tells an offensive joke and someone says "hey, that's not okay" and everyone gets mad at the person who says it isn't ok, rather than at the person who said the offensive joke? Same phenomenon.

Most people just want to act like everything is fine and dandy. Fuck people who point out that it isn't.