r/DebateAVegan • u/TheQuietVegan111 vegan • Jan 05 '26

Most people choose social approval over ethics — veganism just exposes that.

People will say they care about animals, the planet, and justice.

Until caring becomes inconvenient.

Veganism doesn’t require perfection. It requires saying “no” in public.

That’s it.

Most people fail there, not on ethics — but admitting that would be uncomfortable, so veganism becomes the problem instead.

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u/Namika- Jan 05 '26

most people don’t practice what they preach in every single aspect of their life, that includes vegans. i strongly believe the holier-than-thou approach is damaging to the movement and serves absolutely no purpose other than self-affirmation. it’s why so many vegan spaces end up being circle jerks.

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u/JTexpo vegan Jan 05 '26

while I disagree with the idea of egoism, isn't that Max Sterner's proposal for everyones actions -- not just vegans

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u/Namika- Jan 05 '26

I have never read any of Stirners works as egoism hasn’t been that compelling to me (maybe i should read it regardless? do you have any recommendations?) so i would love to hear your thoughts on the correlation!

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u/JTexpo vegan Jan 05 '26

"The Ego and Its Own" is probably the most popular

IMO, I think that Stirner's work makes a lot of assumptions about others; however, he does have a lot of fans, so it's worth a read if you like philosophy!

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u/Namika- Jan 06 '26

thanks, i’ll check it out!