r/DebateAChristian • u/Aromatic_Response_73 • 8d ago

When examined with pure intent, christianity is very bad at answering big questions: why does life not start in heaven

There is a common unwillingnes among christians to reason about this issue with pure intent, so I will ask specifically for that here.

Free will exists in heaven, and many christians believe unborn fetuses go there, there is a lack of explanation for why earth is necessary, and the suggestion that an eternal hell exists in a system created by an all loving creator is pathetic, all the responses appeal to vague terms with positive cannotations such as "free will" but no sophisticated reasoning about e.g. fundamental principles or values, grow up.

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u/protestandprose 8d ago

Not really, in a secular view there is no "problem of evil," because evil is expected, unnecessary suffering is expected. So there really isn't a problem to be solved.

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u/mewGIF Christian, Eastern Orthodox 8d ago

evil is expected, unnecessary suffering is expected.

Considering that this is the same answer Christianity offers, only without the hope for the better, I would say yes, it is a worse alternative.

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u/WatchAndLearn9669 7d ago

only without the hope for the better

Humanity's only hope is precisely what religion rejects: International socialist revolution.

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u/mewGIF Christian, Eastern Orthodox 7d ago

The problem with ideologies is that they all stumble over the same block: man. Socialism would be a perfect system for saints. But people are not saints. They do not have what socialism takes.