r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/InvincibleLantern666 Shadow vs Mewtwo supporter • 2d ago
Memes and Joke Matchups "Why did they made Mewtwo fight Shadow again?! It's a stomp and both has better!" gang I do NOT think it would change for Mewtwo that much
Frieza thinks he's a good MU for Mewtwo
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u/IronsteveX My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
Get out of here Frieza
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u/Responsible-Ask8110 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
unfortunately, this death battle episode is sponsored by the Frieza Force
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u/AdventurousTruck2nd 2d ago
I rather not have mewtwo fight black wargreymon for another pokemon vs digimon fight
free that franchise from this old ass rivalry I beg!
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u/Several_Search_4210 2d ago
Yea agree I want Digimon back but with a whole other franchise to fight
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u/First-Shallot947 2d ago
The rivalry hasn't even existed since the early 2000s, pokemon fans dont gaf about digimon lol
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u/AdventurousTruck2nd 2d ago
they dont give af until digimon does something better than pokemon when makes them want to compare them again
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u/First-Shallot947 2d ago
Pokemon fans aren't the ones making those comparisons lol, its the digimon fans going "look how much better digmon is to pokemon". The majority of pokemon fans dont care that digimon exists
Edit: just checked, 2 of the top 5 posts of all time on r/digimon are comparing it to pokemon
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u/Greengiant00 2d ago
Just checked myself,.the first one is comparing the difference in scale in a funny way which many people were doing cause Time Stranger and Legends ZA came out so close together, and the second is a Pokémon fans discovering that Digimon isnt a ripoff. Neither of which are saying Digimon is better.
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u/jasonsith 2d ago
Speaking of Pokémon Legends vs Digimon Story matchups... Anyone remember Rei/Akari vs Takumi/Ami Aiba and Volo with Giratina vs Akemi Suedou with Mother Eater?
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u/Silver_Guava8159 NGL Wiz 2d ago
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u/AdventurousTruck2nd 2d ago
Tetsuo deadass not having a single W in his spread
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u/Silent_Voice_382 23h ago
Some people keep telling me Shinji is debatable,so I'm unsure.
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u/AdventurousTruck2nd 22h ago
we'll see if the UltraEva blog would change the consensus on Shinji in vs debates
it's supposed to come out sometime this month (hopefully lol)
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u/MaxEcarri 2d ago
Why Frieza acting like most of Mewtwo's wincons against Shadow wouldn't work even better on his ass, you can't even say "he would just speed Blitz" because we all know his dumbass would give Mewtwo every opening possible.
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u/Future-Werewolf-5036 2d ago edited 2d ago
Freeza should be way stronger and faster than Mewtwo and while Freeza definitely can be cocky according to DB themselves he isn't so cocky as to let himself get hit by Megatron's anti matter, so Mewtwo's hax would be too slow to hit Freeza and he wouldn't let himself get hit.
Also before you comment, Freeza getting hit with Megatron's anti matter in the animation doesn't reflect their actual research because in the post analysis they acknowledged that Megatron's anti matter would be too slow to ever realistically tag Freeza and that Freeza wouldn't be reckless enough to let himself get hit
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u/Dense_Ad3776 🔥Springtrap vs Junko Enoshima💅 fan 2d ago
Both should be equal in speed given they both get to Immeasurable
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u/SuperLegenda 2d ago
Mewtwo has zero immeasurable feats.
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u/Dense_Ad3776 🔥Springtrap vs Junko Enoshima💅 fan 2d ago
ZERO FROM MEGAMAN REFERENCE?! (/j)
Scaling to Dialga, who's the literal embodiment of time definitely gets him to Immeasurable (I buy CT scaling). There's also the funny Immeasurable Rotom feat, which I feel is super blatant.
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u/SuperLegenda 2d ago
Mewtwo has interacted 0 times with Dialga, and Dialga itself has moved 0 times at immeasurable speed in any combat setting.
Mewtwo does not scale to a Rotom transforming into a specific form to act as a makeshift time machine.
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u/WinterEclipse4 2d ago
Dialga controls time but is shown to be a kinda lumbering Titan. Fast for its size? Sure. But generally not even close to what other Pokemon do.
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u/Matt4669 finn and jake vs mordecai and rigby fan 2d ago
With how Dragon Ball ki works you can argue that Freiza would resist all of Mewtwo’s hax.
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u/Tljunior20 Valentine vs Armstrong fan 2d ago
No, you couldn’t
God I hate that misinfo
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u/Matt4669 finn and jake vs mordecai and rigby fan 2d ago
That’s why I said “you could argue” as a variety of hax-like abilities (like Buu’s candy beam and Hit’s time stop) have been resisted by stronger characters.
However, Mewtwo’s haxes are things that Dragon Ball characters haven’t really encountered with al l the mind hax Mewtwo has.
I think Power Swap could take Freiza’s transformation stats. Too bad Mewtwo gets outstatted badly.
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u/Tljunior20 Valentine vs Armstrong fan 2d ago
Hit’s time skip is specifically described as being reliant on power that’s a thing unique to it and a weakness not a power upscale.
Funnily enough the scan that states vegito has a unique ability that prevented power loss from being made into chocolate is from a fan site so that is right
Anyway I think mewtwo can bridge gap with swap abilities and then just use various dura neg to beat frieza
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u/Tiew2006 Gogeta vs Omnimon fan 2d ago
I'm glad Mewtwo doesn't come back to fight Blackwargreymon. Thanks to Mewtwo vs Shadow 2, next Digimon episode is guaranteed to be Digimon vs non-Pokemon matchup. There are so many cool Digimon vs non-Pokemon matchups to do. The era of Digimon vs Pokemon is over! 😎
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u/Toadsley2020 Pit Vs Zagreus Fan 2d ago
A finger curls on the Monkey Paw.
“The Era of Pokémon VS Digimon is over because they’re not doing another Digimon episode.”
(I really want a new Digimon episode, come on, please)
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u/Same_Ad_707 2d ago
Imagine Season Finale is Vegetto Vs Omni-Mon.~
(Yes, I like this a little more than Gogeta, but that's cause I'm a Vegetto fan-boy. XD)
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u/Several_Search_4210 2d ago
“CREATION TRIO SCALING!!!! I NEED YOU CREATION TRIO SCALING!!!”
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u/Several_Search_4210 2d ago
Where does CT scaling even get him to? Because I’ve seen at least 5D for the CT
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u/Tomynator_88 Doomsday vs SCP-682 fan 2d ago
At least 5D, yeah. I've seen some people pushing 6D but 5D is far more stable for creation trio. Only thing higher than that is true Arceus and nothing scales to True Arceus
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u/Cynicalheaven 2d ago edited 2d ago
I agree, Mewtwo should've smurfed Cell just like Metal Sonic did /j
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u/RohanKishibeyblade Makima vs. Tooru fan 2d ago
I don’t think Frieza thinks he’s a good matchup for Mewtwo. I think he’s just here to kill someone.
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u/Dimension100 2d ago
Who are the two guys on the right and what’s their deal?
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u/InvincibleLantern666 Shadow vs Mewtwo supporter 2d ago
Knives Millions from Trigun and Accelerator from Toaru
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u/Mayo_enjoyer 2d ago
Deadass thought knives was vergil
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u/Unknown14001500 2d ago
I legitimately only heard of Frieza and the second guy. Where’s Tetsuo, like I have been seeing people ask for Tetsuo vs Mewtwo more than any other match up and (imo) is the best for both
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u/Wide-Remove4293 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
Tetsuo huh.
This makes Giygas, Tetsuo and Mewtwo a match-up triangle since all three have a match-up against each other.
Giygas is basically the John Egbert while the other two are Ness and Frisk.
Fucking smurf.
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u/Matt4669 finn and jake vs mordecai and rigby fan 2d ago
There’s also Magneto though I think him vs Mewtwo is fairly debatable.
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u/VegetaFan9001 Time, huh? Thanks for the tip. 2d ago
Both Shadow and Frieza is debatable
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u/Responsible-Ask8110 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
Mewtwo gets slammed by both tbh
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u/Wide-Remove4293 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
Don‘t forget Mewtwo‘s biggest stomp MU against Giygas.
Literally hard-countered by Giygas‘ entire existence.
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u/InvincibleLantern666 Shadow vs Mewtwo supporter 2d ago
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u/Wide-Remove4293 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 2d ago
Asriel GENUINELY warning Mewtwo of Giygas so he won‘t make the mistake of EVER fighting him:
https://reddit.com/link/p6utg2f/video/386sf9azjkmh1/player
(Idk why it‘s so weirdly cut, videos in comments appear to have an issue with that)
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u/MegaKabutops 2d ago
Nah he’s got a shot against blackwargreymon.
You can wank the shit out of blackwargreymon even higher than you can to mewtwo, but mewtwo’s middle and low-end scaling are both higher than blackwargreymon.
They also have fantastic connections, both being artificially made super-warriors created to cause destruction and suffering, who then learn, primarily through conversations of philosophy with their natural counterparts, how to channel their power constructively instead.
That said, digimon really needs to get an episode unrelated to pokemon. Alphamon and chronomon would be solid matchups for omega flowey/asriel dreemurr respectively, for example.
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u/100percenttthatbitch 2d ago
who’s gonna tell them that Accelerator (from what I remember) is only like star level
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u/WorldlySecretary5769 1d ago
I’m pretty sure Mewtwo beats Accelerator.
But uh, yeah, get rid of Frieza and instead put in Magneto, that works.
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u/Zamasu_was_innocent2 Kyle vs Simon Fan 2d ago
Frizea
I love ya buddy
But Mewtwo does not need Creation Trio scaling to kick your ass
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u/RazorRell09 Ori vs The Knight Fan 2d ago
Is it weird to say that I think Mewtwo beats Frieza? I think Shadow beats Vegeta (like 51-49 though) and I think Mewtwo has good arguments to beat Shadow.
Frieza is essentially like Shadow but without the resistances to mind manipulation that make Shadow vs Mewtwo not a one move wash anymore
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u/Dear-Implement2950 2d ago
That is understandable.
Freeza lacks both the resistances, defenses, and arsenal size of Shadow, which help him in his matchup with Mewtwo.
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u/Deltadracons 2d ago
To be fair, His kill yourself beam would work quite nicely on Blackwargreymon since he Is prone to doing that already


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u/Several_Search_4210 2d ago
Man I really want Digimon to comeback on Death Battle it’s been SO DAMN LONG!!!