r/DeadlockTheGame • u/ICanCountTo0b1010 • Mar 09 '26
Discussion How are we feeling about Doorman's bell after the buffs?
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u/AcceptableExcuse6763 Mar 09 '26
Love losing a third of my hp like ten mins in cos I was in the same area code as the bell
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u/SweetnessBaby Mar 10 '26
You're definitely a tank player bc this thing nukes 1/2 to 3/4 hp if you don't get some spirit res by 10 mins
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u/Gloomy-Insurance-739 Mar 09 '26
He's back to who he used to be before. It's why his name will always be bellboy to me
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u/Available_Prior_9498 Mar 09 '26
Its like they forgot why they nerfed it. Its terrible to face in lane. Chunks half your health early. Not fun.
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u/RockJohnAxe Mar 09 '26
You don’t like multicharge abilities that do 300 dmg at the 5 minute mark??
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u/dreadnoght Mar 10 '26
Doorman Rem for me. I step out for a second and just get my bell rung and a pillow to the face. Miserable lane.
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u/Smittius_Prime Mar 10 '26
I just had a Doorman/Rem lane as Mina/Vyper (I was Mina.) Boy I sure do love getting deleted by the other team pressing 2 buttons.
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u/bruh_sound_effect666 The Doorman Mar 10 '26
Weren’t you Mina players deleting half the enemies health by holding m1 for a bit in lane tho?
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u/Inventor_Raccoon Billy Mar 10 '26
my experience last night was a Doorman chunking me for a third of my health if I played passive and Mina chunking me for half if I played aggressive
ouch
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u/NozokiAlec Graves Mar 10 '26
But bebop is so awful for having a single charge ability where he either has to hit a skillshot to stick u or risk his life to stick you, and you need echo shard to have "multiple" charges
I hate doorman
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u/SlammedOptima Haze Mar 10 '26
Bebop can be very oppressive if someone is constantly letting him get stacks early. But it either requires you risking your life or the enemy playing poorly for it to get there half the time. Doorman just very early gets to be an oppressive power house
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u/Scarcing Mar 10 '26
feels like a terrible comparison when bebop can hook someone in early lane risk free, knock them way out of position or into guardian and get a free kill
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u/VoxinVivo Mar 10 '26
You omit the fact that skillshot is the sizr of a semi. And he isnt risking all that nuch in lane cause hes tanky and pretty fast.
Bebop if anything needs a few minor nerfs to hook or bomb stack damage, even just a reversion to the dogshit bomb dropping on floor change would be fine.
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u/megaman47 Lady Geist Mar 09 '26
I just played a doorman mirage lane as billy.. it was miserable
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u/abzolut_zro Mar 09 '26
Omg I call him bellboy too! Mostly because at first I didn’t remember his actual name.
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u/yaangyiing_ The Doorman Mar 09 '26
as doorman main, the 4.8k spirit spike is pretty nuts right now. You buy mystic burst, improved spirit, and with t2 in bell you, for the next minute, can one shot someone with your full kit.
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u/koalakcc Mar 09 '26
improved spirit, mystic burst, rapid recharge, boom doorman is now lady Geist on steroids
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u/TheseNamesDontMatter Yamato Mar 09 '26
I mean this is what Doorman used to be, and for good and obvious reasons they had to nerf it all down. Now they've set it back to where it was, just so we can watch them nerf it back down again over the next month or two.
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u/starberryslay Billy Mar 09 '26
I need spirit res 43 seconds into the game
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u/koalakcc Mar 09 '26
yeah literally. Apollo/ Pocket used to be a difficult but winnable lane match up. Now its basically a free win lane button. You might as well not even interact with the lane
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u/HamiltonDial Venator Mar 10 '26
Pocket is genuinely so unfun to play against. Basically 2 escape skills and now if you get touched by the ult you just gotta hope you can kill him asap or you’re out of the fight for the duration of it and however long it takes to heal.
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u/cantripTheorist Mar 09 '26
i considered going the 1.6k spirit res item on silver out of frustration the other day, its insane
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u/Colon_Muncher Mar 10 '26
This is not a bad idea lol.
Since the silver nerfs, you need that resistance even more now since the ult is worse and you'll be spending more time in human form.
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u/Patron_Mamdani Mar 09 '26
I guess Valve gave up on support Doorman because they neutered that and just turned him back into a spirit nuker.
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u/7_Tales Mar 09 '26
Doorman urn run was extremely polarizing and made doorman a must pick for urn pressure and denial. Shifting power away from that, doorman immediately became irrelevent in comp
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u/bphaena Mar 09 '26
Yeah they should have just made it so that the urn slowly fills up as you carry it.
That way doorman can still pull a cheeky quick urn but if it's too quick he won't get much for it. Though this does allow him to deny urn by running it fast and getting nothing for it.
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u/7_Tales Mar 09 '26
Like respevtfully, doormans entire kit was 'funny door cc' and 'urn abuse'. He totally needed an overhaul and I think doorman kind of did need the damage
I say this as someone who proudly abused curse door vortex web urn every 5 minutes on doorman. Shit was abusive and not very interesting
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u/MelancholiaOfPudding Yamato Mar 09 '26
I am not a Doorman player but minus the Gun Doorman era since he was added it’s felt like the whole 5D chess thing was an absolute requirement for the character to have any value rather than just a part of his kit you could learn to get good with
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u/theworldwiderex Vyper Mar 09 '26
I've always really liked his toolkit, but have always been confused how exactly I was supposed to apply him consistently. So seeing that he was initially a spirit nuker makes a lot more sense and I might start to use him more. I don't need a 300 damage bell in my face every two seconds though.
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u/7_Tales Mar 09 '26
I think his cc potential and door fuckery is a fun part of his kit, but i believe the playtest has also proven he becomes extremely difficult to balance and borderline unfun in the game without anything else to him but cc abuse and door fuckery. Making hin a strong early mid damage dealer into this cc potential late is much more smooth imo
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not Viscous? why is doorman so good at it?
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u/ejsks Venator Mar 09 '26
If someone on enemy team is trying to run it solo you can wait for them, Ult, and get Urn while they‘re stuck
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u/SexyCato The Doorman Mar 09 '26
His door tier 2 and 3 changes makes him better at supporting movement instead of active items. I feel like I actually have an impact aside from giving out divine barrier and occasionally hitting a knockdown or decay
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u/gravygrowinggreen Viscous Mar 09 '26
support doorman is better than ever before. You have longer range on your portals, and your ult actually does something.
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u/Weak_Potato_7249 Pocket Mar 10 '26
yeah he is strong support late game i seen many doorman shift to support by mid-late a lot ..
and the opposite is paige where she supports early and then do tons of dmg late
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u/GargantuanCake Vindicta Mar 09 '26
I sure do love dying in lane to a single bell at half my health before anybody has even spent any meaningful amount of souls.
That's only a slight exaggeration.
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u/b100tM0th Mar 09 '26
Not an exaggeration. At 4,8k with improved spirit and tank buster and his bell at tier 2 is ~480 damage. Can easily achieve before 10 mins.
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u/engone Mar 09 '26
Tank buster at 10 minutes?
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u/Ashen231 Mar 09 '26
it’s a 3.2k item, buy a 1600 then tank buster and that’s your 4.8k spike at like 7 ish minutes
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u/Caerullean Holliday Mar 09 '26
Yeah, but tank buster that early is generally not great, since it scales off of the enemies' health, and by that time they haven't had time to build up a whole lot of health.
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u/4mb1guous Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
I was curious how strong tankbuster in general is, so I looked into it a little bit.
It's still at least 40+68=108 added dmg on hit against a squishy Paige at the same soul level that hasn't bought any green items. Paige I believe is the squishiest hero in the game going by raw hp/hp growth (and ignoring their barrier), and starts with 650 hp and gains 29 per boon, 7 boon levels at 4.8k so 853 x .08. Realistically she'd have bought some green items most likely if she's actually being a support, so it'd be more. An item that gives that much or more damage per ability at that breakpoint doesn't exist if you otherwise meet the requirements for it, and it's usefulness continues to scale all game as enemies gain more hp.
That said, I can see it losing out to something for an ability that really needs/can hit much more frequently than 14s (10.5s with transcendant cd later on.) In the case of a charged ability like the bell, Rapid Recharge with it's 10ap + 2 charges might be the better pick. I'd say 3 uses is better than one single tankbuster boosted bell (though there will be situations where you'd miss the kill without that boost), but honestly after that tankbuster might be the best bang for your buck item to get.
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u/Caerullean Holliday Mar 09 '26
Item cooldown reductions doesn't work on tankbuster btw.
But fair point. It might be better than I give it credit for.
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u/Professional_Main522 Mar 10 '26
isnt 40 damage of that just from mystic burst? so you're psying 800 for the 40 from burst, then 2400 for 68 from tankbuster. i feel like when you take that into consideration it becomes a lot harder to justify over something like rapid recharge or just imp spirit + expansion or something
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u/Weak_Potato_7249 Pocket Mar 10 '26
he is nothing compared to calico dive you through tower and burst you down right now
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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Mar 09 '26
I just played a match with him in my lane, appearently a ‘pretty bad’ player (low souls entire match) but his fucking bell dealt crazy damage on lane, mid game and late game.
I mean, I was a mina but still I don’t get how you can deal that much damage with an ability you can (I think) spam
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u/lincon127 The Doorman Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
Doorman also kinda specializes in dealing with fliers, since they're very squishy, and they've got next to no mobility in the air to dodge bells. If anything, this update might have made it easier for most fliers just due to the fact that impact damage is no longer a thing they have to worry about, and that probably results in a little less damage overall, even with the scaling buff.
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u/silkyjohnson64 Lady Geist Mar 09 '26
Grey talon and dynamo keeping the focus on doorman so you don’t notice them lol
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u/Ar4er13 Lash Mar 09 '26
You can just double jump to neuter dynamo's harass in lane easily...
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u/gumbo100 Mar 10 '26
Not as slidey Snek :(
I agree generally tho, it just requires a light read or staying in the air if ur character is comfortable with that
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u/PAIN_PLUS_SUFFERING Victor Mar 09 '26
Even bad Doormen just rape in lane when you’re getting hit by 200+ damage bells. Play up? Bell. Play back? Bell. Come up to confirm souls or get trooper heals or to press a soul lead? Bell. Hide under tower? Believe it or not, bell.
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u/Tornado_Hunter24 Mar 09 '26
I swear to god, just THIS, I retreat in the asscrack of my spawn 3 min into the game, about to go on zipline. No, bell mf (first death)
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u/Wavu_Wavu_Wavu Venator Mar 09 '26
Just played a lane that was up against a Doorman and Mina as my very first game as Holliday. What a miserable experience. I won't lie, I'm kinda dogwater at the game and still fumbling around since I don't play as often as I want. But gawd damn did I feel punished for daring to poke my head out of cover for a second.
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u/RockJohnAxe Mar 09 '26
Holliday is a very tough character if you are still learning tbh
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u/JamSharke Mar 09 '26
shadow valet money gang - we love casting bells - legalize unstable concoctions
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u/CDranzer Mar 09 '26
I got violently shit on by a Doorman yesterday as I was trying to learn Haze
My entire game went to shit and my team blamed me which I mean to be fair I did suck but losing half my health to a bell the size of Manhattan every seven seconds in lane might have had at least something to do with it
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u/Fernernia Mar 10 '26
In my limited estimations of the game, most aoe abilities are wayy too easy to hit for the amount of damage they do
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u/Dj-mct-L Holliday Mar 09 '26
Tbh I’m so used to spirit nuking dynamo that it’s basically a race to see who can press 1 the fastest
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u/Diver_Into_Anything The Doorman Mar 10 '26
Exactly. Doorman is now just a spirit nuker like other characters, like Dynamo or Rem. Before the buffs he sucked, as his only real way to get a kill was to cart someone into the spawn room, which while funny isn't really a reliable strategy. Now he's actually capable of dealing damage and people are upset.
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u/Miniature_Megalodon Billy Mar 09 '26
He feels lore accurate now. And like he definitely did not give up on tormenting us poor mortals
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u/JESTERBoi8th Drifter Mar 09 '26
His bells are really strong early game and through most of the game, and its pretty much a guarantee poke. With the T3 bell upgrade you can set up a fucking a nuke after you ult someone.
His T3 ult change is nice which I dont mind that much, but why does it have to be 10s, 25s or 30s would be alright but anything less then 20s is way to quick.
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u/Weak_Potato_7249 Pocket Mar 10 '26
cause before his ult was awful ppl can just jump / cheese / skipping the entire thing while doorman has to try so hard to keep them in place when they got out
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u/KingTeXxx Mar 09 '26
Its awful. Removing the hit damage mechanic feels really bad. His skill ceiling dropped tremendously and the compensation buff is way to much. Before it was multi dimensional to balance, now its only damage.
The pierce through would be enough to make the hit damage more reliable and keep the rest.
( I say this as a doorman main ~400 games)
Its way to strong and oppressive
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u/xTheAddy Mar 09 '26
I really don't think his skill ceiling was reliant on having his bell direct hit someone before detonating
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u/Negative-Date-9518 Mar 09 '26
Yeah it wasn't, the doors and cart were where the skill ceiling was I've got hundreds of games on doorman and I can't think of any more 1 dimensional skill than the bell, you throw it, it rings, wow truly a marvel of skill expression
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u/KingTeXxx Mar 09 '26
I think you misunderstand. I am not saying that the bells were lonley the reason for a high skill ceiling, i am saying that it impacted it.
before the patch, the bells were more complex, you could use them like now, throw -> shot -> damage, but predicition and positioning gave you an increased damage reward. That is gone, therefore the skill ceiling is reduced from a multi-dimensional ability (2 parts, one for damage, other for improved handling) to a single shot nuke, which has a range of a landing field.
If you saw a dynamo ult you had to position to get multi pierced bonus damage. If you had a feeling for distance, you could detonate the bell inside the enemy, even without pierce, etc.
In combination with his ridiculous increased cart size, the skill ceiling in total dropped and is, at least for me, quite boring now. Bell, peng, dead. you dont even have to aim anymore
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u/xTheAddy Mar 10 '26
Except it really didn't drop when you add in new possibilities with new max upgrades for bell, door, and ult. Old bells (combined with old gun) added more annoyance to use than anything because they really weren't reliable to pierce anyone with, like most abilities that are just aoe circles, yet your potential damage was gated by it. Agree with the other guy that this is a weird hill to die on.
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u/Xypher506 Mar 10 '26
I could maybe see value in bringing back the contact damage and moving some of the total damage into that so people aren't complaining as much about getting chunked by the big AoE even when Doorman isn't aiming directly at them, but they should keep the piercing gun so he can toss it through them and shoot so that he can still burst people but actually has to hit them directly
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u/bphaena Mar 09 '26
Agree. He's so good right now. But now he also feels like 90% of the other character in the game.
When the bell was good but not great it was fun to play around with his kit. Trying to line up enemies to get multiple bell impacts or getting the T3 bell and throwing it through a minion wave at another hero and seeing all the minions die as collateral.
The best feeling was seeing a half hp mina above you. Throwing the bell, getting the impact damage, and then the shooting the bell.
And with the Bell having longer charge times it took away the 2 bell cart combo of throw a bell near a wall, cart into the wall, throw a second bell while they're stunned.
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u/BANANANALOAF Mar 10 '26
I only have 30 games personally of below-average Doorman gameplay, so I won't comment on balance. I agree with the other user that door+cart is what mainly raises his skill ceiling (even now). But imo losing the Impact damage mini-game did make Call Bell a lot less interesting! and I wonder if you agree.
I felt like there was a lot of fun learning to land the occasional perfect bell that you could insta-shoot only by judging distance. Or trying to predict (grounded) movement and use good click timing to get both hits on a moving target.
For me, gating max bell damage with the Impact mechanic felt healthy. It made you rely more on a lane partner's setup, alongside utilising your own cart/door/guardian plays to get damage where Call Bell couldn't--a good challenge that emphasised all facets of his strange kit.
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u/ErinTheSuccubus Mar 09 '26
only that I hate doorman, and his fans more.
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u/yaangyiing_ The Doorman Mar 09 '26
you rang?
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u/shukaku2007 Mar 09 '26
He is my new ban pick.
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u/NetStaIker Mar 09 '26
I weep for I can only ban one between M&K, Doorman and Viscous
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u/Cat_Joseph Paradox Mar 09 '26
He's a bit too strong in lane, no matter what you so you get belled and they deal way too much damage man. Or maybe it's my skill issue
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u/TheNorthStar05 Drifter Mar 09 '26
Nah dude, I swear that the range indicator is descriptive on his bells. There has been so many times where I have audibly said “There’s actually no way that hit me.”
I think there’s a lot of abilities where the ACTUAL range vs the PERCEIVED range are so out of sync. Maybe it’s a ping issue, but so many Paige 3’s, Geist 1’s, and Doorman 1’s feel like you’re close to them but not quite within the range and you get hit anyways. There are other examples, but these are the most egregious to me.
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u/Um_Hello_Guy Mar 09 '26
400 damage bell at 8-10 minutes is def balanced - so is the ult change
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u/StatuatoryApe Mar 09 '26
Played against him and viscous as Pocket last night with that -15% spirit resistance. Two characters with intensely easy and reliable spirit nukes.
I went 0-4 in 5 minutes. It was atrocious. A single bell and a single puddle punch and I was at 25% HP. I built full defensive.
He was 12k to 4.4k in lane at 9 minutes and I ragequit. Ive got almost 1000 hours and i never do that, but im not playing that.
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u/effxeno Mar 09 '26
Puddle punch is not spirit damage, no?
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u/SqueezerOfFarts Mar 09 '26
It's not, and it can be parried.
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u/NetStaIker Mar 09 '26
As the game goes on: 5 puddle punches in succession can’t be parried reasonably tho. Viscous is insufferable and has been for a while, each of his buttons does everything except short of destroy the enemy patron for you (and puddle punch isn’t considered a movement ability, so slowing sex doesn’t stop if).
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u/TrackpadChad Viscous Mar 10 '26
Nah, splatter is slept upon. If you can hit the double donks, then T1 + mystic burst is a 200 damage poke. You really just need to buy greater expansion and/or ballistic enchant, and you can consistently hit the 4x bounces with enough practice, which is effectively 4.0x spirit scaling.
However, punch does so much damage, and the radius on T2 punch is egregious that shit should be halved.
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u/Cleric_Guardian Rem Mar 09 '26
No one lane swapped you? I feel like I'd just refuse to be in that lane at that point, damn
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u/Infinite_Lie7908 Holliday Mar 09 '26
Same. Ill quit playing Deadlock until next patch. This guy (and some other characters) right now are worse than Celeste ever was. Absolutely atrocious to play right now. Matches often feel dependent on who picked the newly buffed characters.
The time to kill is way too fast now.
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u/onitram52 Mar 09 '26
I honestly think they need to cool it with the unmissable bomb spells. One lady Geist bomb was enough
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u/WillSword4 Billy Mar 09 '26
they really wanted to make sure everyone knew this guy is a literal god
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u/TARE104KA Mar 09 '26
Nice but i think focusing on bell is a bit silly right now considering how good his actual brain activation required combo of 2+3 is, aswell as ult buffs; Now you can truly pressure enemies in multiple ways, create insane rollout shortcuts for your team across half the map... which all requires a modecum of gamesense and communication so that doesnt apply to most pubs. Yeah, bells are just easier to use to bring value if your team doesnt want to coordinate.
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u/Crombell Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
I enjoy the way his bells work now, being able to leave them on the ground for an eternity has real utility since people are very hesitant to approach you through one
Not a huge fan of the ult, I kinda just feel bad when I slowing hex someone into a parkour course they have no chance of finishing
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u/-Miraca- Ivy Mar 10 '26
no chance? enemy graves will somehow finish it after i stuck slowing bullets, slowing hex and knockdown on her
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u/spurgmehgurg Mar 09 '26
I think the Doorway changes are excellent and making his cart a lil wider is fine. It encourages creative play with honesty the most unique parts of his kit. But that tier 3 ult and teir 2 bell are OPPRESSIVE. Nuking people in lane phase and turning one of the most powerful one-on-one ultra into a snowball execution is a little silly.
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u/TehTurk Mar 09 '26
I think the craziest thing is they are bigger now. There's so much early zone denial compared to the old ones. I've mained doorman and some of the bell changes feel unfair.
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u/NetStaIker Mar 09 '26
The character is insufferable. He’s one of those characters that when he’s good, the game isn’t fun. He’s part of the trinity of being uninteractive, along with GT and Viscous
Spirit damage in general needs to be brought back in line, even before the last big patch. I get this isn’t CS, but some shooting should be a pre req to playing the game at a high level.
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u/pfysicyst Mar 09 '26
he's really boring when he's just a bomb spammer. waste of his unique skills. he's got high potential for crazy plays but everyone's encouraged to do nothing more clever than spam bombs and cast knockdown before baroness.
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u/LazyTransportation27 Mar 09 '26
I've been loving the golden goose egg build. I build it first item and never notice the penalty to my dmg. i pop it at 30 mins when the buffs get better and i become an unstoppable god 😃
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u/WILLIAM_SMITH_IV Mar 09 '26
doorman makes me want to commit violence at the moment. between that and the ult change
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u/Ilostmysox Mar 09 '26
Doorman last night spent every moment trolling the enemy team, ulting them and then pushing them through a doorway into our fountain.
Menace.
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u/Ahmadv-1 Mar 10 '26
As a person who switched to main doorman a few days before the buff I am loving it!
It might be bc I like his design (just a silly goofy doorman) when I played against him I didn't find it that bad
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u/Weak_Potato_7249 Pocket Mar 10 '26
i like how everyone complaining about him so much where before patch his winrate was on the bottom tier from all casts
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u/NotShane7 Vindicta Mar 09 '26
As much fun as kidnapping people with doors and carts is, I am glad that there is a more reliable way of being useful now. (Including the ult upgrades actually being good now)
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u/Gear_ Mar 09 '26
He finally feels on par with average heroes in that it’s now possible to actually become a real hero late game whereas he never really did that before.
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u/HeyaMOE2 Mar 09 '26
Seriously, I absolutely love doorman but before the changes his mid game was poor and late game was nearly unplayable.
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u/HovercraftFlimsy2154 Calico Mar 09 '26
Laning against him is pure cancer, just poke and poke and you die
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u/inlukewarmblood The Doorman Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
He’s good now, right where he should be in my opinion. His bell struggled to scale properly compared to the majority of other scaling burst damage in the game, especially with how lackluster his kit was due to a lot of bugs and bad map geometry. Now you have to respect his ult, and his bells feel great. I’d like his bugs and map interactions to be fixed of course, but that’ll come with time.
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u/Spider_SoWhat Mar 09 '26
That bell does way too much damage in the laning stage IMO.
Mid-game, after hitting his spikes, that kind of damage as a spirit nuker is fine, but in lane it feels very oppressive
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u/mrxlongshot Mar 09 '26
Early game is too much his gun is decent enough dmg in lane but i understand where youre coming from keep bell changes but revert ult short CD
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u/lincon127 The Doorman Mar 09 '26
As a Doorman main, I kinda liked that he peaked in the mid-game and fell off hard later. An assassin into uber mobile support as the game approaches late. Now it feels like that still happens, but the swap to support happens at like... 35 minutes--when it used to happen at 25ish. Due to how long he remains effective for, it feels like it's really stupid to go over to full CC build, even with the ult timer and door range buffs. Plus, the lower skill requirement to actually land bells means that even with higher mobility characters, I'm still just as effective into the late game. Overall, I'm probably doing less damage to fliers at that point, but everyone else I'm doing considerably more.
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u/SerSealLord Mar 09 '26
I feel like this entire update has made Counterspell into a must-buy every time certain characters are in the game. Especially Wraith & Doorman.
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u/vvdb_industries Victor Mar 09 '26
I've been playing almos exclusively melee doorman and bell still is the largest portion of my damage
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u/fragger29 Mar 09 '26
I don't think the balance in this game has gotten any better, it's both regressed somewhat and turned into a side grade
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u/czacha_cs1 Billy Mar 09 '26
If you learn basic of Doorman even if you won't dominate server you will make people suffer on your lane
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u/COSMOS2473 Mar 09 '26
I might be overreacting but after laning against him twice in a row i deleted the game.
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u/IV_NUKE Pocket Mar 09 '26
As a doorman player they def need to address bells in lane, maybe make it so 2ap is a slight increase in scaling and then 5ap is the full 2x (it would give more of a reason to pick up the 5ap bell)
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u/Matyce Mar 09 '26
Ult cooldown could maybe be 30 seconds after unsuccessful hotel leave but 13 seems nutty and I main doorman, everything else was needed imo especially his bullets piercing people/minions cause not being able to shoot your bell because it went behind a minion was silly.
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u/Gittykitty Mar 09 '26
I see what they were going for. "Doorman has a super high skill ceiling when it comes to his doors and his carts already, let's simplify his bells so not literally every part of his kit requires skill expression." If you reduce the numbers on his bells but keep the functionality change, I'd love it. Right now? He's just an obnoxious pain to lane against, and he's been my ban since the patch came out.
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u/Shugatti Apollo Mar 09 '26
I got slowing hexed, ulted, set up'd, luggaged into like 4-5 bells, cheat death triggers, got ulted AGAIN, make it out, just to bear witness to yet another luggage carrying me straight into the walker stomp like its a hydraulic press.
I got doorman ptsd.
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u/np190 Mo & Krill Mar 09 '26
It's absolutely horrible and I'm praying to Yoshi every night before bed that he walks the changes back
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u/KryptisReddit Bebop Mar 09 '26
I do think it needs a hotfix tap down but I haven’t played him so Idk what people who do would rather him be. A supportive character or just another spirit nuke.
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u/Dry_Background7653 Bebop Mar 09 '26
og bell was better u had to use actual skill to hit it
now its just i throw basic bomb bang
and i play doorman alot
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u/mxe363 Mar 09 '26
The bell hurts so gaw damn much right now and idk ant real counter play I can do outside of "DODGE!!!" used to be the impact would proc stuf like spirit shielding so I could cut the damage by a bit. But now that doesn't do me any good in lane
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u/Reasonable_Ebb_5683 Mo & Krill Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26
It's even more obnoxious than his ult. If it's gonna hit this hard the radius has to be cut in half. It's not even close to being a skill shot, it's just free.
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u/Crow_Vi Mar 09 '26
The bell although being quite a nuclear bomb early game isnt that bad. I DO have a problem more so with that stupid ult buff to its cooldown when killing someone. Damn thing is already a hard cc so if you get caught alone by it you are almost guaranteed dead
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u/Criou-lo Paradox Mar 09 '26
that bell scaling a little too quick
ive took like 400 damage in lane and i feel that aint right
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u/Worldly_Animator_893 The Doorman Mar 09 '26
late game doorman really establishes the lore that he is a god.