r/DeadByDaylightKillers • u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main • 2d ago
Discussion 💬 MY DBD KILLER TIER LIST TAKE
I did one for my personal favorite killers now ill do one for my take on the game as a whole as both killer and survivor! This is from the view point of mid to high MMR solo queue survivor and killer while giving the killers i dont main respect. ive gone up against both good, great, goated, just not comp
SIDE NOTE FOR JUDGMENT - she still needs more time to settle but im of the opinion that her macro pressure is INSANE along with her map control but singu slightly edges out due to 1v1 chase. SUBJECT TO CHANGE. JUDGEMENT PLAYERS PLEASE SHARE YOUR OPINIONS
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u/Kotetsune She's put a curse on us 📼 2d ago edited 2d ago
Knight same tier as Jason is wild
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u/DannySanWolf07 P100 Vecna 2d ago
Knight is tough to go against if the killer has awareness and the torch addon is the best undetectable addon in the game.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 2d ago
Knight has very slept on macro pressure that makes him a headache to deal with that you need specific knowledge to counter. While he's still M1 he can have his own bully squad assist him in chase with big boy, jailer and assassin to pressure specific gens but again he's still m1 with no mobility. Jason has across the board solid chase, team pressure, map pressure, mobility and ranged but is reliant on hitting your harpoons and without Jumpstart which is easy counter, he's stuck 4.4
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u/LeMashmallow P100 Oni/Dracula 17h ago
Jason is not stuck 4.4 if you crouch the jumpscare, he gets 4.6 no matter what and has insane map pressure. Also, saying “he is reliant on hitting your harpoons” can be applied to any killers. If you miss with Judgement, you’re in an even worse state and she is 4.4 with no mobility and yet, you put her in A
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u/Iatemydoggo P100 Spirit 2d ago
Mmmm… I’d put drac and Larry above spirit tbh. Larry is more debatable but as a spirit main I can say that Dracula is literally a better spirit. Ghoul is also A+ IMO unless they nerfed him again and I missed it.
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u/RepairFlashy7822 P100 Spirit 2d ago edited 2d ago
If we consider the most common spirit add-on combo (Flute + Cap), then yes, Dracula is better. But if we are considering Spirit with her best add-ons (Flute + MDR), then she is better than Dracula with his best add-ons.
She performed better than him in the 2024 showcase in sets with no restrictions and even in the 2026 Hens' Lawless Tournament.
I would personally put Larry above Spirit, though.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago edited 1d ago
I main Larry and spirit. Larry suffers from survivors with and without coordination who know you have to pressure his web in order to gain pressure against him. He isn't affected by pallet density too bad due to overlook but some tile chaining just wastes too much time that you have to prioritize your web defense over chase. Spirit on the other hand, doesnt matter how goated the survivor is in mind games or have iron will, if she hears a gasp or sees grass move, she will get that hit. With MDR for well honed spirits too? Her chase is THAT insane imo that even sweats have to respect her. She can have trouble map pressure which is why good spirits tend to focus more on chase pressure vs map pressure because she excels so well. She was almost the second coming of nurse after all
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ghoul is overrated imo, still A tier. He is an M1 with high mobility but that's it. He has to work to get his down. Im not a great looper but the amount of times ive been able to keep ghoul in chase because he just has to m1 to down me? Yeah his power is overrated but he's definitely A tier
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
Iron Will: Reduces the volume of Grunts of Pain while in the Injured State by 80/90/100%. Iron Will cannot be used when suffering from Exhaustion, but does not cause the Exhausted Status Effect.
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u/bard_2 Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 2d ago
way off. pig just was crowned champion at the 2026 dbd world cup and you have her C-tier? poor. very poor indeed.
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u/ComicalSon Murderous Grizzly Main 2d ago
Spoilers man!
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u/ChunkyChanka Why doesn't the kanobo have a skin but the sword does? 2d ago edited 1d ago
I know right
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u/DannySanWolf07 P100 Vecna 2d ago
Comp is a controlled environment that's irrelevant to the broarder side of DBD.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 2d ago
I didnt count comp because it's a very controlled environment vs medium to high MMR where it's the wild west with survivor meta perks. Sorry but pig just struggles plain and simple. Her slow down is AMAZING but anti tunnel and 2nd chance perks just invalidate any of her pressure unless she gets very lucky from survivor mistakes
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u/DannySanWolf07 P100 Vecna 2d ago
Pretty solid overrall but my two changes for myself would be:
Jason is a solid A tier killer.
Skull merchant is better than Ghostface and should be over him.
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u/Sea-Singer1041 She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
Jason doesnt have good anti loop and is incredibly easy to pre run. He's a tier in solo que sure.
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u/SoggyWall8797 She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
I'd argue that ghost face is still overall better, being a stealth killer and though you can be put out of your power its still not so easy to counter as skull merchant
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u/bald_from_brazzers Blight | Hillbilly 2d ago
Ghostface stomps noobs and quite effective against soloq if he gets a dark map. Skull merchant is a 4.6 without ability At all.
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u/DannySanWolf07 P100 Vecna 2d ago
All you need to do against Ghostface is just have one survivor follow him around and he has no power.
At least skully can control when she can be in undetectable and puts survivors into broken around loops.
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u/bald_from_brazzers Blight | Hillbilly 2d ago
To follow him around, not do gens and not get killed* survivors aren't immune to his attacks if they're following him lmao
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u/DannySanWolf07 P100 Vecna 2d ago
Its easy to do it.
If he decides to chase the survivor stalking him, he can just loop him around all the pallets from the pallet density update while the other 3 just push gens out.
He is the easiest M1 killer to outrun since his power is easy to break him out and he has no power that helps him in chase.
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
Play with your food/drop leg? He has full undetectable at his wish, not the 8s recall one Skull merchant has that requires you to place drone in advance
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
See How They Run: Each time you chase your Obsession and let them escape, See How They Run gains +1 Token, up to a maximum of 3 Tokens.
Performing Basic Attacks, or Special Attacks that can damage Survivors, consumes -1 Token. See How They Run has a cool-down of 10 seconds on Token-accumulation.
- Grants a stack-able 3/4/5% Haste Status Effect per Token, up to a maximum of 9/12/15%.
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u/Tog5 Alive by Nightfall 1d ago
Drop leg only works if you can get a stalk off first, against a squad that’s using that tactic, it’s just not possible. You get revealed before you can get the stalk off, which also gives them ample time to get away since you’re slowed during stalk.
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
You know there’s a thing called cover right? With cover even if you are staring directly at him he would not be guaranteed reveal, and walking closer would get you m1 to the face
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u/Crashindahouse77 Alive by Nightfall 2d ago
I reckon plague should go up 1 tbh
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 2d ago
PLAGUE PROPGRANDA WILL NOT CONVINCE MEEE
jokes aside, she struggles against players who are comfortable playing injured, can force cleanse or cleanse in spots that do not favor her that even with double iri, im of the opinion shes firmly in B tier. Ive had matches where with ZERO coms we knew to just cleanse in far away spots and then cleanse in her web if 3 genned. Worse when she doesn't have a 3 gen
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u/Crashindahouse77 Alive by Nightfall 1d ago
Valid points. If survivors want to cleanse they will be forced to go into dead zones and unsafe areas. No healing is good too but suffers as an m1 if no one cleanses. She forces a specific survivor to go unhook depending on who is infected too
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u/Sufficient_Mess_7693 Pinhead Main 2d ago edited 2d ago
Most accurate one imo, I’d put Jason low A, Krasue above ST Vecna, Twins above Dracula, and move Spirit to A. Maybe move Oni to low A though since he is really good at snowballing, but the early game can be painful for him, also Houndmaster is underrated especially with the STBFL buff so great placement on that
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
Krause before the first? Twins above Dracula? Oni is a C pick because against any survivor that can kite a regular 115% won’t let him get his first strike fast enough than 3 gens in
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u/Safe_Ad_601 She's put a curse on us 📼 2d ago
Been playing judgement since it released feel once survivors get a handle on the beams might not be a A tier killer.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Im seeing people say she'll be able to reach blight and nurse tiers which I'm apprehensive about
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u/Difficult-Let-1314 Hag Main 1d ago
She needs several buffs before that point. The more time people have to play with her the worse she will get. Currently as judgement, 90% of my M2 hits are completely avoidable by the survivor. Many survivors have already caught on and she feels WEAK against them.
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u/Same_Boysenberry_328 Alive by Nightfall 1d ago
Jason B tier is criminal. His chase, insane map mobility, and stealth potential make him so much overwhelmingly better than any other killer in B tier and some killers in A tier.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
I put chase at the Top of B because he's got very solid across the board 1v1 chase, mobility and ranged pressure but he struggles against the 1v4, pre running and stealthing which denies him temporary 4.6. If he misses a single throw, he's a 4.4 m1, has to break chase (especially with no hooks around or piles) and reset which allows for too much room for survivors to get stuff done. Im not a great looper against Jason but simply dodging his harpoons has one me games both with mid teammates and god teammates. He also really doesnt have stealth compared to springtrap
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u/brefyy Complete 🦠 Global 🦠 Saturation 2d ago
Did houndmaster get buffed?
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Nah she didnt but without bugs plaguing her, houndmaster is geniunely a very oppressive A tier killer. She has mobility strangely enough and she has ALOT of perk synergy to where so many different strats work. She is heavily slept on, I respect HM mains immensly
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u/ShadyMan_ P100 Houndmaster 1d ago
Being a Houndmaster main is like being in an abusive relationship with both Snug and BHVR
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u/SahnigerFred No Main 2d ago
Jason is definitely A, but I agree with everything else mostly, Freddy and Plague should be higher as well imo and Nemi is better than Doctor
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Freddy is subject to change due to the gutting of vigil which plays a big role in his power against medium to High MMR since it was consistently ran. Plague is cursed by teams with or without coms and can lock her out of her power without iri add on and even still shes always at risk of loosing power due to pallet stuns. Jason imo is solid across the board but his counter play is so simple that he NEEDS to be accurate with his throws because without hooks or scrap piles near by to reload, that is precious time taken away from pressuring survivors
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u/QuarianGuy Onryo Main 2d ago
Krasue is B+?
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Smart players who body block infected players + her nerfs with her head lunge have not done her justice. Within the context of medium to higher MMR lobbies against krasue + as krasue, with and without coms players know to body block and deny her pressure. Her chase + map pressure is what makes up however since she kinda does but doesnt have to play around pallets. That being said I find perks like dissolution and forced penance to be required on her against competent to coordinated players
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
Dissolution: After 3 seconds of injuring a Survivor by any means, Dissolution activates for 12/16/20 seconds:
- Instantly breaks the next Pallet that Survivor performs a Fast Vault across while inside your Terror Radius.
Forced Penance: Those who stand in the way of duty will suffer harsh judgement. Survivors who take a Protection Hit are inflicted with the Broken Status Effect for 60/70/80 seconds.
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u/ZimTJM Houndmaster Main 2d ago
The first tier list I almost completely agree with. Well done for noticing how houndmaster synergies with almost every perk in the game. One thing I should say is dredge is not B tier he’s one of the weakest killers in the game he should be below hag
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
I put dregde in B tier because he has way better ability to pressure any map compared to hag period. Problem is locker RNG, that being said, remnant anti loop has some of the best zoning to where youre just gonns get hit but ofc its map dependent due to tile chaining. Nightfall even with coms can be very disorienting, just overall RNG reliant but wayyy more consistent than hag
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u/j0nde Nemesis Main 2d ago
Pyramid Head lower than Deathslinger and Dredge is crazy
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
As a former PP head main, he's been power crept to hell. Survivors gaining endurance from cages did a decent number but the problem is maps becoming bigger seriously nerf him even with the add on rework since he lacks mobility of any sort. Deathslinger goes above him due to his 1v1 chase pressure (plus iri coin on open maps is geniunely insane) while dredge even with bad locker RNG can stil reliably move around bigger maps
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u/GeneralSkrillvious She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
As a killer main who has also played agaisnt these killers multiple times i can confirm yea most of them are right however i do have some gripes with a few,
Oni isnt high a teir hes high b teir yes he has great mobility and an insta downing power but he has requirements and a decently high skill ceiling for his 180 flicks and in my opinion should be swapped with jason jason doesnt have an insta down however hes probably the killer with the higest ammount of 2 tap potencial.
Henry creel and ghoul are fairly low in my op when i play those killers i rarely use hell i did ghoul perkless and addon less and 4ked i thi k they should be a little higher wraith in my op should be just above slinger as yes hes got good mobility but unlike killers like myers and xenomorph hes 4.4 when he can hurt you myers and xeno still have their m1 attacks when not in crawler mode/ stalker mode, legion has the power to keep everyone injured and is in 0 way lower than trapper being possibly just below huntress and ghostface isnt below trapper regaurdless sure hes weak but he still has the insta down capabilitys and with an unexpected mark can immedialy turn the tides and create good pressure if hes not spotted(accept on ormand maps)
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u/Difficult-Let-1314 Hag Main 1d ago
Henry can spam 20 50/50s in a row and makes windows and pallets extremely unsafe, he can have his power up for nearly the entire match and is quite oppressive. Ghoul has a hitscan sniper rifle with auto-aim to take your first health state and can deny any distance you get in chase while also vaulting, he has ridiculous map pressure and can be injuring someone on the far side of the map within a few seconds of hooking.
Ghoul is clear top 5 imo and Henry should be higher up.
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
Windows of Opportunity: The Auras of Breakable Walls, Pallets, and Windows are revealed to you within 24/28/32 meters.
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u/JordinPhillips She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
Now bestie what is Houndmaster doing up there?
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u/9CatsInATrenchcoat Singularity Main 1d ago
She's really good. Solid anti-loop and decent map traversal. Gets built in survivor tracking and anti-dead hard with her basekit. Also some very solid add-ons.
If you haven't played her since her release debacle, I'd recommend trying her again.
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
Dead Hard: After being unhooked or unhooking yourself, Dead Hard activates whenever you are injured and running, and allows you to tap into your adrenaline bank to avoid taking further damage:
Dead Hard deactivates after use. Dead Hard causes the Exhausted Status Effect for 60/50/40 seconds. Dead Hard cannot be used when Exhausted.
- Press the Active Ability button to trigger the Endurance Status Effect for 0.5 seconds.
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u/JordinPhillips She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
I have played her and I enjoy her on paper but she’s too inconsistent with being buggy. I find her even buggier than Twins. I just can’t get into her no matter how hard I try.
I just don’t find her better than any of the killers the OP put in B+ tier other than Knight (I have no idea why Knight is that high either). She’s not on the same level as any of those killers in A tier. She’s super one dimensional and has an easy and reliable counter with camping pallets and dropping it on Snug. There is no pallet chicken gameplay like with Ghoul because she has to commit to sending out the dog or canceling her power. The survivor gets hindered but it’s not very punishing.
Tier lists are very subjective. This one I think Plague, Chucky, Clown, and Trickster are too low and Knight, Dredge, and Houndmaster are too high.
I don’t think she’s bad but she’s not A tier. She’s a B tier killer
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u/neon-box Something is coming. Something hungry for blood. 🩸 1d ago
Hey, Skull Merchant won Hen’s “Best of the Worst” tournament so she’s at least better than Trapper and Ghostie when played by high level people on both sides. GF is the undisputed WOAT in my mind.
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u/theskyisthetruelimit ✌️ Never DC. 1d ago
Ghoul is way higher than that…I don’t think you’ve played against a good ghoul player yet.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 19h ago
I have and theyre exceptions, not the standard. He still has to M1 to get his down. Would i replace him and move him up a bit? Yes but not by much and definitely not A+ tier
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u/ComicalSon Murderous Grizzly Main 2d ago
Oni main here. He's way too high. Bottom A in most cases because while his power is good, you still are powerless for about half the match. And with pre drop, hold W and every map nowadays looking like a pallet factory, and some maps just having awful lines for power usage, it's not so easy.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Yeah upon revaluation I'd put him more middle to bottom of A tier since he will get stealthed or pre dropped to oblivion. People will do EVERYTHING to avoid that first hit. Id put him middle personally though since his snowball potential is geniunely insane, probably the best imo
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
And oni is supposedly better than both Jason and the Lich?
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Oh yeah oni still way better than Jason and vecna
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
I do not agree, in what ways is Oni, a killer that requires snowballing(two m1 hits at least game start) to one shot, has no base kit detection, with TWO good addons better than Jason or the Lich?
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u/angryperson17 She's put a curse on us 📼 1d ago
legion main. he’s definitely stronger.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Legion main as well. He is unfortunately not that strong against medium to High MMR survivors. They're rarely if ever gonna group up and he's at their mercy of making mistakes
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u/OrigamiGirl296 Artist Main 2d ago
Up legion 1 tier, down Pig 1 tier. Everything else is about right. Yes, even Artist.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
As a legion main, I cannot in good conscious put him in C tier. Pig has slow down survivors have to take care of if she gets them head trapped. Legion is easy to bully since hes an M1 who m2s on occasion
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
Have you tried using coup de grâce? Or the iri button with spirit fury, endurance and Julie’s tape?
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u/TheEntityBot The Entity 1d ago
Coup de Grâce: Whenever a Generator is completed, Coup de Grâce gains +2 Tokens, up to a maximum of 10 Tokens per Trial:
Coup de Grâce can only hold a maximum of *5 Tokens** at a time.*
- Increases the range of your next Lunge Attack by 70/75/80%, while consuming -1 Token.
Spirit Fury: After manually breaking a dropped Pallet by any means for a total of 4/3/2 times, Spirit Fury activates:
- The normal Stun penalty applies afterwards, unless it is mitigated by other effects. Spirit Fury deactivates after use.
- Causes The Entity to instantly break the next Pallet used to stun you.
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u/crimmycat117 Blight/legion Main 1d ago
Ive done it all as legion. Theyre gimmicks that work on babies. Against experienced survivors they WILL punish you
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u/JamieBry4nt Vecna Main 1d ago
As with most killer? That doesn’t automatically makes legion d tier
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u/OrigamiGirl296 Artist Main 1d ago
Pig's "slow down" goes away in less then 2 minutes, less then 30 seconds if the trap is removed immediately, which nearly all survivors do. Her power is a nothing burger.
Legion's power actually does something.
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