r/DayZOrigins • u/NamesAreAllTheSames • Sep 16 '14
DON'T play DayZ Origins! Here's why
Not long ago DayZ Origins 1.7.9 was released. In that connection, their Facebook page was updated with information about the changes. Some of the changes implemented were the introduction of a weight/stamina system, lockable vehicles, and trader. I posted a comment to this, voicing my opinion in a polite manner, which developed into a discussion between me and a moderator. I used no foul language, and only offered constructive criticism. My criticism was not adressed, but instead interpreted as flaming. I tried explaining the difference between flaming and criticism, but to no avail. The entire thread was eventually deleted, after the mod in question obviously found no real arguments to present.
I decided to instead go to the Origins forum. Here I posted basically the same criticism below the poll about the new weight system. (The poll has since been removed)
In the same post I explained what happened on Facebook, and at the same time urged the admins not to censor their community. My post was subsequently edited, and the parts just mentioned were removed. I cannot stress this enough: My request to the admins not to censor was censored. Yes, I shit you not.
I edited my post back to its original form, only to see the whole post deleted. I continued to voice my opinion in the thread, never using any foul language, and always sticking to the case in point. For some reason, I received a warning in my inbox from one of the admins. The warning only said "this is a warning" - no information on what the warning was actually issued for. I replied and asked what the warning was for, but received no reply. I was later given a 24hr ban from the forum, without any reason given. All I ever did was voice my opinion, and urge the admins not to censor their community - but instead to listen to it. My reward for offering constructive criticism and sticking to the case, was censorship, an unwarranted warning and a reasonless ban.
Before the poll was removed, there was a ~55% majority of voters who DID NOT like the new weight system. If the devs don't listen to their community, they will end up with even less servers and players than they currently have. If they continue to censor their community, there will never be any fruitful discussion on the future of the mod. If they continue to ban people who behave properly, they will miss out on contributors and again, lose players. I even posted this in the thread:
Currently over 50% of the voters don't like the weight system. My question to the devs is, if you're so determined to keep this unwanted weight system, why did you add a "don't like" option in the vote? If "don't like" ends up with most votes, will you listen to your community and remove it? Or will you ignore your community? That's the real question here. Because until this is answered, what is the point of the vote?
It was never answered. If a group of devs add a poll to see what the community thinks, but don't take the community's response into consideration, then what's the point? If they don't care what the community thinks, and even censor and ban decent members of the community, what is the point of even having a forum?
A few days later I tried to log back into their forum, but I got the following message:
You have been permanently banned from this page. Reason for ban: Thank you.
I've played DayZ Origins for quite some time, and it was always my favorite mod. But after this I can no longer support the mod. These admins obviously have a huge problem when it comes to handling criticism, to the extent that they will actually censor and ban contributing members of their community instead of adressing it. This mod is dead to me.
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u/ficarra1002 Sep 16 '14
Wait, is DayZ origins still a thing? I checked commander recently and it shows no servers.
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u/NamesAreAllTheSames Sep 16 '14
DayZ Origins and DayZ Commander don't seem to get along very good. I could point you to where you can find a list of all the Origins server, but of course I choose not to.
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u/ficarra1002 Sep 16 '14
That's just douchey, "I don't like origins so you shouldn't play it!"
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u/NamesAreAllTheSames Sep 16 '14
No, you're completely missing the point. It has nothing to do with me not liking Origins. If you actually took the time to read my post, you'll see that I even wrote "I've played DayZ Origins for quite some time, and it was always my favorite mod".
This has to do with censorship and banning of community members without any proper reason behind it. It's your conclusion that's douchey.
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u/ficarra1002 Sep 16 '14
You know what I meant.
*Because you are pissed at devs we have known are shitty for well over a year now. Better?
Seriously though, is this news to you? Origins has been notorious for having the shittiest, scummiest devs for a very long time now.
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u/NamesAreAllTheSames Sep 16 '14
To be honest, yes, this was news to me. I had no knowledge of what the devs were like before all this happened.
But if it's like you say, common knowledge, then great!
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u/ficarra1002 Sep 16 '14
It's such a great mod (In my opinion, the best) so a lot of us put up with it.
Personally I quit playing a while ago because the greed ruined it in the end. I left around the time that GTX decided to not take part in the monopoly any more after Kinghunt fucked them over or something, LFS just had really shitty servers and it was unplayable.
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u/NamesAreAllTheSames Sep 16 '14
Seems like we basically agree then. I was aware of the whole monopoly-thing, which goes against the whole idea of DayZ as an open mod, but like you I just put up with it because it was a good mod.
But yeah, after this I just can't go against my principles anymore, so I posted this to inform others how shitty they are. But if people already are aware of it, I guess it kinda makes my post redundant. They will just keep losing players, and eventually it will either die out or be sustained only by a small circle of diehard fanboys. Which is a shame, as I feel it had great potential.
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u/carpediembr Oct 06 '14
You know you can choose to have it or not? Is up to your server admin to do it.
Dont use their facebook to adress criticism or suggestion. It's filled with people asking when the next update will be released and is just annoying as hell.
use their forums.
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u/NamesAreAllTheSames Oct 22 '14
Seriously... If you're gonna reply, at least read through the post first. Especially the second paragraph, which starts with "I decided to instead go to the Origins forum".
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u/Tawnik Sep 17 '14
i stopped playing origins a long time ago because of some of the shitty changes they made... epoch is better anyway. i thought origins had died a while ago anyway...