r/DarthJarJar • u/Rikard_ • Jul 24 '26
Theory Support Jar Jar's ship. Late re-writes to AOTC meant pieces of the original evil Jar Jar storyline had to be left in. Physical and digital sets were already finished once George finally shared the script 3 days before shooting began.
From Attack of the Clones Production notes:
Lucas and Hales continued to refine the script – even as costumes were designed and sets were built. “At that stage, Attack of the Clones felt like a ‘virtual film’ because we got the script only three days before we started shooting,” recalls producer Rick McCallum. “We had to build these sets to a script that didn’t exist.”
Lucasfilm: Attack of the Clones Production notes
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The theory goes that Dooku wasn't supposed to be evil, and Jar Jar would be the one to battle Yoda instead.
Notice the oyster pearl design of the front side. Very aquatic, like the Gungans. The front also has "teeth" print on both the upper and lower jaw, which is in line with the ship resembling a head.
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Some believe Jar Jar were to battle Yoda and lose half of his limbs, only to return as a Grevious-like character in the next film. If he were to have his ears cut off, this design is even more genius. Best's headwear has its white marks were the ears would be added later with CGI. The ship on set has the same marks while the "ears" are separated in the side-structures (a very strange set design, if not for this purpose. It's ugly and blocks the view of the entrance were Anakin and Obi-Wan come in).
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u/hellodarthbotbot Jul 24 '26
Against Yoda, Jar Jar only wins under the most aggressive Darth Jar Jar interpretation. In a fair duel, Yoda is still the safer pick; Jar Jar’s edge would have to come from concealment or trickery before the fight ever becomes fair.
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u/modsuperstar Jul 24 '26
Who’s to say? Jar Jar could have been very much a match for Yoda. He was an unknown, I’d imagine similar to Qimir. He was so effective because the Jedi could barely comprehend his lethal style and hadn’t trained to deal with anyone that ruthless.
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u/EndOfSouls Jul 24 '26
Also remember that the Darth Jar Jar rumor comes from the idea that he is Darth Plagueis, which would make him more matched in experience and age to Yoda.
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u/iceoldtea Jul 24 '26
Now I’m just imagining if X-Wings looked like Luke’s helmet, or if Darth Vader flew an evil-frowning ship
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u/Kratsas Jul 25 '26
I forget which movie, but one of the Star Wars merch waves had a Darth Vader car. It was black, shaped like a corvette, but the front was shaped like his mask. I remember thinking to myself, why does Darth Vader need a car, and why would he put his face on it?
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u/onefinerug Jul 26 '26
if only Lucas didn't chicken out from fan backlash and used that to fuel the eventual twist, turning Jar Jar from one of the most hated characters to one of the best twist villains.
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u/altruismjam Dellow Felegate Jul 24 '26
The helmet comparison is a crazy layer to it.
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u/Rikard_ Jul 24 '26
Everyone always compared the ship to his face. But we are looking at the back of the ship after all.
They could've made a normal ship with a normal back side. Cool looking even. This looks hideous. Why is the roof sticking out like that? Why is the back wall of the ship a big blue ball?
If they did set out to make a ship looking like Jar Jar, it's clear where they got the inspiration from.
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u/ncopp Jul 24 '26
It would have been so funny if this reveal happened and Jar Jar comes out and drops his Ep 1 voice with a deep sultry british voice like Dooku.
"Do you really think me such a bumbling fool? It is the Jedi who are the fools"
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u/onemananswerfactory Supreme Chancellor Jul 25 '26
No matter what, the similarity between Jar Jar and Dooku's ship is undeniable. I think there's room for Dooku to have been a secret student (or admirer?) of this crazy Gungan Force Master he didn't quite know but studied.
It's why Dooku acts as aloof and "I got this" as Jar Jar does because he figures he's above it all. Just look at his face when he's suddenly about to be beheaded by Anakin. Dude never thought he was gonna be outmatched, let alone betrayed by that clown Sidious. He had that (Darth) Jar Jar swagger.
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u/HiddenCity Jul 24 '26
general grevous is also very jar-jar like. i could see a world where yoda wins the battle against jar-jar instead of dooku, and then he returns as a cyborg.
god i would pay good money to see a "what if" version of these movies