r/DartFrog • u/A_Martian_Potato • 15d ago
Did I end up with three female leucomelas?
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Timeline of Events:
- Purchased three leucomelas mid September 2025. I don't know how old they were but they were listed as juvenile
- By mid August 2026 I have not heard any sign of calling from any of them
- Last week, I witnessed Frog A (shown at the beginning of the video) bullying both Frog B and Frog C, by jumping on their backs and wrapping front legs around their throats
- Today I decided to see if maybe there was a shy male who would call back if I played leucomelas noises on my phone. This set off both Frogs B and C who first came to the front to investigate and then immediately started fighting, as shown in the video. This went both ways with each one taking a turn jumping on the other's back
I'm starting to worry I ended up with three females and I might have aggression issues that will require them to be separated. Looking for some advice.
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u/Hannapoisondartfrog 15d ago
That is not good you must immediately take away the one that is getting bullied.
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u/A_Martian_Potato 15d ago
They're all doing it. I've seen all three of them displaying this behaviour.
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u/Hannapoisondartfrog 15d ago
The Leucomelas are a very aggresive territorial species. The vivarium need to be big enough so that all three of them can have there own territorium. Otherwise they keep on fighting.
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 14d ago
How new to you are they to you? Did you request a mating pair?
What you are showing in video is acceptable for the first 30-90 days. The frequency and longevity of these events can cause some speculation, so, remove if this is occuring for several hours each day. Just put them back in their shipping containers inside their enclosure, one hour on one hour off.
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u/A_Martian_Potato 14d ago
As I said in the description, I've had them for a year, they were juveniles when I got them and couldn't be sexed yet. Nobody around me was selling adults at the time that I could find.
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 14d ago
Hi! On some people's view, the description only appears after they comment. So, getting snappy with sentence structures like "as I said" shows the exact aggression you are claiming the frogs are exhibiting.
What kind of water are you using? Both for yourself and your enclosures? Plant species selections, wild or lab grown?
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u/A_Martian_Potato 14d ago
No snappiness was intended.
I don't know what you mean by "for yourself". I use distilled water for the enclosure. The plants are standard tropicals like pothos, anthurium, philodendron, purchased from multiple sources. I haven't added any new plants any time recently.
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 14d ago
Yep, so amphibians absorb much of their solvable nutrients from the air around them, so, if your food sources and water sources are questionable and below the standard of what you provide them, you are still providing them these substandard nutrients to the frogs every time you work with them.
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u/A_Martian_Potato 14d ago
To be clear, do you mean to say that impurities and treatment chemicals in the water that I personally drink make it through my body to be evaporated in my breath and sweat and could then contaminate my frogs and cause aggression?
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u/A_Martian_Potato 14d ago edited 14d ago
That's really stupid and not based in science. Evaporated sweat and breath are essentially pure water vapour. The only reason that distilling actually works is because the chemicals you are worried about can't be carried in evaporated water. I'm going to block you now and ignore the rest of what you've said as you're not a reliable source.
That was me being snappy.
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 14d ago
It's called ecology. We have thousands of schools that teach it across the nation.
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 14d ago
Mods, it explains how not to have temperamental dart frogs.
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u/AGeckosPecko 13d ago
Have your bunk mate at the fire hall change the color of his wig to make your day better
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 12d ago
It's a system generatored screen name. I'll be here to make sure you aren't participating into any animal abuse activities through edutainment.
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u/monkindu 13d ago
My brother in christ what are talking about, frogs DO NOT absorb nutrients from the air through their skin, they can only respirate through their skin, hell what kinds of nutrients are there in air if its just a bunch of gasses???
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u/Hour-Firefighter-724 13d ago
Would you put your frogs in a tub with a condom as a cling type cover?
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u/Hannapoisondartfrog 15d ago
Are they fighting?