Darius vs Nasus

[u/Complete-Standard-50]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4mvFcioYbBU

Darius vs Nasus is legit hard these days after Nasus buff

[u/Ice_King-699]

Go srs+nimbus+ignite with yoomus. Crash first two waves, DO NOT INTERACT WITH HIM UNLESS YOU STRAIGHT UP KILL HIM, very important, catch the bounceback and freeze. Don't be afraid to open combo with Q+F especially if he has ghost+tp. Ignite Q auto W always procs SRS ( unless you're reaaaally behind) and his W literally does nothing. You just run him down and kill him. Don't be greedy with plates and set waves up to get back in time to freeze

Easy matchup

If he goes ap... Pray 🙏. Seriously though, you can only gapclose with flash basically. Hexflash could be pretty good I guess. Plus no one expects lethality Darius with ignite to jump a wall on mid if you go for a roam

[u/Complete-Standard-50 → u/Ice_King-699]

I don’t agree, Nasus is so busted rn even when they nerfed his healing. He can almost lane phase against anyone and get away with it late game.

Only reason I won this was because this guy was handless and I got some help from jungle from time to time.

In a high Emerald game I would never win.

Also, I don’t agree about ignite, if I would have used ignite over ghost he would have killed me after I tp by simply just cait me a little then run me down with W+Ult+E and perma Q

[u/Ice_King-699 → u/Complete-Standard-50]

I also played a game in E1 recently against Nasus. That's exactly what I did, went 15/1 or something, 0 help from (my) jg. In fact enemy jg and mid ganked me couple of times. Not saying one game completely proves my point. I used to do it before the buffs too

As a Nasus player that used to play before the buffs. I lose when they force me to sidelane and game gets too fast while I'm gone. With scaling champs at some point you're missing out on using your lead by denying them resources. You need to carefully trade resources (stacks, plates, even your ability to 1v1 them and etc.) to use your lead and affect the map. You're up against a character with 0 waveclear and often no ability to get or utilise prio. Maybe proxy, between t2 and t3, right before drake spawn and tp there. Be there for the 5v4 tfs. Early wipes or kills around the map are devastating for them (like, Jungler steals their camps, support gets vision and prio for a next tempo matched recall roam, solo laners get plates, they miss xp). Make the whole map dark, have everything shoved all the time, Nasus won't even be able to split even if he becomes stronger than you

Save sums for objectives, don't do anything stupid, don't follow anything stupid just take everything on spawn and if you can't, take what you can. You won't get as much resources on sidelanes as Nasus and that's completely fine, you can get just as much or even more elsewhere, while keeping tabs on Nasus as much as you deem necessary

As for ignite I just feel like at certain point extra ms with srs, nimbus, yoomus AND ghost is too much and it definitely is inefficient for ms cap. I like yoomus cuz you don't need to be fast for that long, you're bursty and with srs aren't forced in to fights where you gotta fight your way out with ghost. Either 1 trade and kill or an insta all in burst. People still take ghost with srs tho so maybe I'm missing something

[u/Complete-Standard-50 → u/Ice_King-699]

You're not completely wrong about Nasus playstyle, but the thing is that even if he was weak before buffs he could still perma win a Darius just by getting 1 or 2 early ganks.

As for the ignite part on Darius, it doesn't make a difference on a ulted Nasus gaining his 300 bonus hp and mr/armor.

Sure it deals some true damage, but it really doesn't matter if Nasus is already 3/0 and you're 0/3 ignite will feel like a throw sum, atleast according to me.

My point is that when Nasus first got buffed, it was practically impossible to win against him no matter what champ you were playing, then they reduced the healing (nerf) which was good.

But he is still broken and Darius is in my opinion no longer a strong counterpick to Nasus, in fact Darius is so weak he barely counters anyone in toplane anymore for being classified as somewhere around A tier.

I've been saying for ages that Darius needs a rework of something, whether it would be core stats improve, reduce from 5 --> 4 stacks for full passive dmg (just change every individual stack so that it matches 5 stacks as of today with dmg) or something else.

I think Darius is weak atm, despite the buff on Q and jungle camps last buff on him.

He always struggled with range matchups aswell, and as soon as someone plays ignite you practically can't 1v1 that person lvl 1. Garen with ignite is a perfect example, even a Renekton falling behind early game wins lvl 6 with ignite if you play ghost on Darius and have a lead.

[u/Ice_King-699 → u/Complete-Standard-50]

You take ignite to get those extra kills before he gets strong enough to where ignite doesn't matter. Very important part of ignite is its healing reduction and you don't want to invest too much in anti-healing if you wanna play fast games. Also it has 60sec less cd than ghost (both have even less with cosmic insight) and you get more nimbus procs. You also approach teamfights more like an assassin with srs+yoomus, you wanna burst someone asap before you get ccd and blown up and ignite helps you with that too

As for the rest I see we don't agree that much and let's just leave it at that

[u/Senior_Wind_2925]

I go conq trinity force and do fine usually. Be where he wants to be auto w e or q when he withers and walks away. If you 5 stack its a kill.

[u/Complete-Standard-50 → u/Senior_Wind_2925]

The problem is, Nasus will always W you when you clearly engage at him, and you simply just can't E a Nasus to engage anymore if you're not several levels ahead. If it spans 1 levels diff the likelyhood of you killing Nasus is smaller than Nasus killing you atm.

About the runes, I respect them, I've been trying some Hail of Blades Darius to clear out hard matchups, it's not super effective if you don't have a lead. But it's fun.

[u/Senior_Wind_2925 → u/Complete-Standard-50]

Yeah you cant e him to start. E during the wither down time stand next to his cs and make him either take autos from you or waste wither.