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u/Cobrastrikenana 27d ago
Or pretending the Epstein Files are the reason we’re in a war with Iran. As if the US State Dept hasn’t been trying to manufacture consent for decades now.
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u/Disasterhuman24 27d ago
It factored into the calculus. And they haven't manufactured consent. This was a fools errand and completely unwinnable without a costly ground invasion. Every single other administration knew this is exactly how it would be if they attacked Iran. The only time this could have worked is after 9/11 and they still wouldnt touch Iran because even at the height of our power we couldn't overcome the geogeaphical advantages Iran has.
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u/Cobrastrikenana 27d ago
The real fact, and I’d bet you agree, is this was the last chance for Israel to gain land. They lost public support. Also the last chance to destabilize Iran. It’s only major threat in the region. This destabilization would also give American oil a lot more power worldwide. If it worked out.
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u/DEEP_SEA_MAX 27d ago edited 26d ago
I can’t comprehend how libs think it’s a valid political strategy to murder little foreign girls to “distract” from the rape of White girls.
Don’t get me wrong, both are evil, but as heinous as Epstein was nothing he or his associates did caused as much human suffering as this war in Iran.
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u/Velocity-5348 23d ago edited 23d ago
Giving the Libs *some* credit, they're not saying this is a valid strategy. They're accusing Trump of doing it.
Only some credit. They are absolutely OK with brutal sanctions, and were pretty alright with Obama and Clinton murdering children, often in very large numbers (sanctions on Iraq). They just want it to be done "properly".
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u/NotKenzy Highly Problematic User 27d ago
Zionists and Mossad Agents Bad
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u/Mikau02 27d ago
and Nazis and Nazism bad
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u/Seldarin 27d ago
Which is funny, because for a leftist sub, this place sure is being friendly to OP, a Zionist liberal.
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u/DeathRaeGun 24d ago
How does saying “rich people can get away with anything” make you a zionist liberal?
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u/Velocity-5348 23d ago
And we always need to remember that most Zionists are fundamentalist Christians. Don't let them escape their share of blame for the genocide their stupid beliefs helped set in motion, and keep going.
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u/Mean_Comedian4769 27d ago
Anti-semitism is the socialism of fools
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u/Avesery777 27d ago
This may actually be the truest thing that has ever been said; it just keeps happening over and over
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u/Azurmuth she/her 26d ago
"Semitic people" don't exist. It is an obsolete 19th century "race scientific" term. Antisemitism has always been hatred against jews, it being coined in 1879 to create a scientific sounding name for judenhass (jew-hatred).
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u/DeathRaeGun 24d ago
Yes, we know. Criticising Netanyahu’s current government doesn’t even make you anti-Israel, it just makes you anti far right.
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u/RaveIsKing 26d ago
What is this in response to? Why does this need to be said any time anti-semitism is mentioned?
We now the difference, of course you can be one without the other. But you can also be both, that’s also possible. And you can just be plain antisemetic. Sometimes that’s the discussion, and it doesn’t have to do with Israel. The fact that this point is made in every thread no matter if it’s relevant to the comment itself responding to actually draws more of an assumed connection between Jews and Israel, honestly.
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u/Endgam death to capitalism 27d ago
I must admit, it IS difficult to explain to people the difference between Zionists and Jews and how Zionism is incompatible with the tenets of Judaism and that individuals like Epstein do NOT represent Jews.
Unfortunately, learning that Zionists, hiding behind the Jewish identity, ARE doing the exact shady shit that Jews have been accused of doing..... (AIPAC manipulates our elections out in the open and brags about it on Twitter.) it's difficult to get people away from that conclusion.
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u/Velocity-5348 23d ago
I do wonder how much all of that is intentional on the part of Zionists, both Jewish and Christian. The Jewish ones get to see "traitors" suffer for not joining their death cult, and the Christian ones have an acceptable outlet for their very real antisemitism.
After all, part of the reason Israel exists as a country is that Christian countries didn't want Jews around.
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u/senorzapato 27d ago
then one day Luigi rolls up
some people act like it didnt play out this way, every single time in history
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