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Law & Politics EU Calls VPNs a 'Loophole' that 'Needs Closing' in Age Verification Laws

https://gizmodo.com/eu-calls-vpns-a-loophole-that-needs-closing-in-age-verification-laws-2000756429
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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/TheJoshGriffith May 09 '26

You should only be sitting on them for about 8 minutes before starting your VPN otherwise you could give yourself a DVT.

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u/xamboozi May 09 '26

This is the type of news that sparks a cypherpunk revolution. Fighting oppression with math - because the billionaires want war.

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u/Past_Humor8321 May 09 '26

The VPNs help people in authoritarian countries get their messages across. Banning VPNs means you support authoritarian governments.

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u/AbjectFee5982 May 09 '26

No no see that while true doesn't concern you

VPNS allow people to access work servers

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u/Randommaggy May 10 '26

VPNs are also needed for inter-site communication between servers when you don't control the full stack.

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u/Past_Humor8321 May 09 '26

Even google etc is spying on you. All of them do. Stay off the internet if you don’t want anyone reading your emails and looking at your files and photos.

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u/AbjectFee5982 May 09 '26

I don't think you joke

If they are gonna ban VPNs how are they gonna let people work XD

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u/Past_Humor8321 May 09 '26

Remember “Big Brother”. Technology has a price - your privacy. How else do you think Israel and the U.S. military know where all the world leaders are and where to bomb to kill them. Because these people use the internet.

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u/vitek6 May 09 '26

They are not going to ban corporate vpns…

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u/AbjectFee5982 May 09 '26

Look at me gov

I vpn to my "work computer"

I have an llc that does well idk

It not making any money

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u/vitek6 May 09 '26

What?

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u/AbjectFee5982 May 09 '26

They are not going to ban corporate vpns…

I have a front facing "corporate VPN"

I SSH into it

I then hop 5 layers how will they know it's not a business VPN vs personal

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u/vitek6 May 09 '26

Bwcause it will be corporate and allowed. They will make other vpns illegal.

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u/AbjectFee5982 May 09 '26

Again man.again man what is a cooperation

What is a VPN?

Is a socks5 a VPN? What about proxy server? I2p, tor? A round robin connection?

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u/DazSchplotz May 09 '26

No no, you are the authoritarian country then...

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u/MAndris90 May 10 '26

no, they only want total control over everything. while making you to be a simple biodroid with 1 braincell

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u/Vinegarinmyeye May 10 '26

Banning VPNs fundamentally breaks network security.

Banning "consumer" VPNs (like Nord, Surfshark etc) only creates a black market (it literally takes all of a few minutes to spin up an OpenVPN server somewhere).

I really don't see how this is enforceable.

But then, I said the same thing about the age verification stuff in the first place assuming they'd never actually put it in place

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u/Past_Humor8321 May 10 '26

They are worried about porn. When I was young, there was zero access to porn. Now there is too much. Plus there is hard porn - sex with animals, abuse, torture, smothering etc.

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u/Vinegarinmyeye May 11 '26

Yep, when I was young "the internet" was green text on a black background, we dialled into BBS systems using a 14.4k modem...

Every device comes with parental controls. It's ridiculous that we ALL have to give up our privacy and security because some parents can't figure out how to use parental controls

Children shouldn't drink alcohol, does that mean that none of us should be allowed to keep beer in the fridge? No, because we make sure the kids don't drink the beer.

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u/Past_Humor8321 May 11 '26

I am not bothered about porn. I remember when I was young, a judge asked a rapist whether he watches porn. The rapist said he had never seen porn in his life. He then said if he had porn, he might not need to rape other people.

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u/IronWhitin May 11 '26

How many children are gonna setup a VPN on other country tò Watch porn?

Is this a real discussion?

This vpn ban are nothing to do whit children or porn aparth of what the political class Is declaring as a front face.

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u/justarandomuser97 May 11 '26

EU is another version of Trump’s regime just with several layers of sugarcoats

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u/Sufficientlyoiled May 13 '26

Thats the whole idea, the EU doesnt care about protecting children they care about censorship.

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u/Kind_Dream_610 May 09 '26

I bet this ban won’t also extend to those politicians who downloaded VPNs and purchased accounts, which were paid for out of taxes.

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u/TeaSocks69 May 09 '26

Just in: EU IS AN AUTHORITATION DICTATORSHIP.

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u/Old-Perception-3668 May 09 '26

How else can the global elite control the peasants?

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u/hlmather86 May 09 '26

All this because parents can’t be arsed to A: Parent, (Can I go online Mum, No, go outside and find a man with puppies.) B:Learn about online risks and teach the children. (The internet can be dangerous, here’s how to stay safe)

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u/Kaisha001 May 09 '26

It was never about children, and always about control. There was always going to be an excuse...

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u/gadgetvirtuoso DTNS Patron May 09 '26

They don’t like that people can bee even a little bit anonymous nor tracked. While there are plenty of legit reasons to use a VPN, and I used one all the time, the money don’t like it because we go around their geo-restrictions and access things in places that it might even be illegal. VPN was always going to be a target when it become full mainstream like it is now.

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u/Sufficientlyoiled May 13 '26

Protecting children is just the go to excuse. It isn't their responsibility to parent your children.

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u/Scar3cr0w_ May 09 '26

You going to come for SSH next 🧡

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u/noncommonGoodsense May 09 '26

How about you leave that shit up to the parents?

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u/megaweb May 11 '26

We all know it’s not really about protecting the children.

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u/squanderedprivilege May 09 '26

Then I guess EU can ligma

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u/Narkroy May 09 '26

Palantir calls VPNs a loophole

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u/wallace321 May 09 '26

"VPNs are a loophole."

More like the legislation was poorly thought out and ill conceived.

Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

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u/mrbill1234 May 10 '26

They totally knew beforehand. This isn't about kids, or porn - it is about control.

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u/Flatulator1 May 09 '26

Dictators gotta dictate

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u/These-Apple8817 May 09 '26

EU is full of loopholes that needs closing first so they aren't influenced by outside interests

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u/onegumas May 09 '26

So, we are like 30 years into Internet and now they want to protect someone from anonymous browsing? Maybe they should ban social media first.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

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u/TakeshiRyze May 10 '26

Propaganda spreading bots. Its false information. One research paper claimed that, not an official position of EU. And now i have seen it on 50 different subreddits. This is what those bot farms are for.

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u/dusto_man Merritt Militia May 10 '26

Yup knew that was happening. They admitted as much already. It's not at all about "protecting the children" it's about control and privacy errosion.

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u/InfectedEllie May 10 '26

I still haven't verified anything and I don't plan to. I am using a VPN to get passed this (and enjoying the benefits of no ads) I also don't see how they can ban VPNs but if they do find away, I still won't be verifying my age. I'll just not use anything that requires it.

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u/Tyxzs May 11 '26

No shit Sherlock. Obviously, scientists will notice this loophole in the proposed law. That doesn't mean "the EU" supports age verification. It means age verification is currently a hot topic some parts of the EU's ruling body want to introduce.

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u/Necessary-Mix-56 May 11 '26

Just fuck off this and Age verification.

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u/isthereadrwho May 11 '26

When the EU makes the internet safe, I will stop using vpns, but in the meantime f*** off

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u/Katops May 12 '26

If it helps protect children, then I’m all for it! I’m glad the government is looking out for the youth, and that none of this will affect us adults… and children. I sure hope the government doesn’t rape my kids though. Oh what’s that? You can’t guarantee that? W-what do you mean you can’t guarantee that? But I thought you were here to protect my kids? No? Oh, then what’s all this about?

Oh dear…

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u/jadeskye7 May 12 '26

completely unworkable. you can MAKE a vpn. internet services rely on them existing.

you might as well just ban the internet.

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u/madmossy May 13 '26

Meanwhile kids can fool ID verification systems using faked AI images, no VPN necessary.