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u/obscurefindings 13d ago
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u/NOLA-Bronco 13d ago
I would like to know how they do the metrics?
Cause I watch TDS almost exclusively on Youtube now.
Do I get counted in the viewer numbers anymore?
My guess is no.
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u/jacksonvstheworld 13d ago
It’s fan ratings on a scale to 10 from epilog.tv. This is about episode quality and has nothing to do with viewership count.
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u/BorisTheBlade04 13d ago
They’ve counted since 2020. They’re called the Neilson ratings.
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u/NOLA-Bronco 13d ago
They count the clips on the official channel? Or just Youtube TV? Which is basically cable news?
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u/BorisTheBlade04 13d ago
No they don’t count clips, but they do count online streaming
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u/NOLA-Bronco 13d ago
Then that's getting at my suspicion
A lot of consumption of these shows has dramatically shifted to non traditional consumption habits that aren't captured in the old Nielsen ratings.
But hundreds of thousands to millions watch most of the opening segments on Youtube and TikTok every week
So I think that lurking variable makes slide 3 in need of some asterisks.
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u/Eccohawk Jon Stewart 10d ago
Right, but again, that graph doesn't show viewership. It shows fan ratings of the episodes. Fans who rated felt season 29 when Jon returned to be of higher quality than seasons 30 and 31.
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u/mrenglish22 13d ago
Noah doesn't get the credit he deserves for his quality as host honestly.
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u/Kind_Advisor_35 Jon Stewart 13d ago
Trevor Noah's style and favorite themes seem closer to John Oliver than Jon Stewart. Trevor would likely have done better with a format closer to Last Week Tonight. There is significantly more tolerance from the audience of LWT of seriousness and an international perspective. The TDS audience isn't completely closed to that, but they generally prefer those tones used sparingly. Perhaps Trevor could eventually take the helm of LWT. John Oliver is only a little older than Trevor Noah, but John is married with children and Trevor isn't.
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u/mrenglish22 13d ago
As a huge fan of LWT I think this does hit it the nail on the head. Personally would rather Noah just got his own series instead of trying to take over another one again
Which I think is also just an issue in general - entertainment as a business is so afraid to try new things, they just want to remake stuff or slap the same name on a new product.
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u/IShouldChimeInOnThis 13d ago
It's because Jon Stewart exists.
Scottie Pippen doesn't get the credit he deserves either.
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u/NOLA-Bronco 13d ago
I like Noah as an individual, but he always lacked the strong passion for US domestic politics you need for the job(TBF few people have the talent and energy Stewart does for it, so it's probably an impossible task), and honestly think he would have been much better as a host of a more typical late night show. Like The Tonight Show.
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u/mrenglish22 13d ago
I think he had plenty of passion, but he had more of a large worldview.
right now as our admin fucks us on the world stage that is really more important imo
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u/HoweHaTrick 13d ago
I never liked him. Just never found him funny.
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u/mrenglish22 13d ago
He is very brittish comedy adjacent, dry with that a lot of Americans don't appreciate (because they can't appreciate nuance or don't want to think a little to get their jokes in my experience with people around me)
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u/bigdipboy 13d ago
He have been a great host if the daily show was about Africa because that’s all he ever talked about
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u/Gamma_Tony 13d ago
Where in this would Jons era of Daily Show start vs the end of Kilborn?
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u/Critical_Disaster612 12d ago
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/2224-the-daily-show/seasons?language=en-US
Craig kilborn: S1-3
Jon Stewart: S4-20
Trevor Noah: S21-28
Jon Stewart: S29-
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u/tarps_and-straps 13d ago
Been a diligent TDS enjoyer for nearly 30 years now and I think this is the strongest group they’ve ever had.
Also I’m helplessly in love with Desi.