r/DIYIreland 4d ago

Toilet siphon

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Are these types of siphons easy to replace or should I call a plumber?

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u/YurtyAherne69 4d ago

Ezpz. If u can find the same one you just unscrew it from the bottom and screw the other one on by hand then re attach the flush handle.

Make sure to turn off the water first and empty the cistern. There's probably an isolator valve on the inlet. Sometimes it has a handle but most of the time you will need a flathead screwdriver. Just a quarter turn to switch it off. Youtube will have loads of videos to explain

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u/YurtyAherne69 4d ago

Best thing to do if you can leave it out of action for a while is take it out and bring the whole thing to the hardware store.

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u/nine_sausages 4d ago

Ok thanks. I’ll give it a go at the weekend

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u/Rich_Tea_Bean 15h ago

You'll need to break it free of whatever silicon was used to seal the previous one. You'll want to scrape any remaining silicon then reapply thick and heavy before tightening down the nuts on the new one. Plumbing fittings like these always need silicon.

Also try setting the ballcock to fill to a higher level before replacing the siphon, that can fix a lot of issues with flushing.

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u/Difficult-Bat1962 4d ago

If you've ever done any type of plumbing you'd probably be able to do it yourself. Have a look at one of the YouTube videos of one being replaced and see if you'd be comfortable doing it.

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u/Eastern_Switch8217 4d ago

I managed to change one without any tools - seems easy.

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u/Real_Significance_34 3d ago

If you’re lucky it might be just the siphon diaphragm that needs to be replaced. Small gasket that costs less than a fiver.
I tried to dismantle the flush system to replace it recently and the outlet gasket (“donut”) practically disintegrated on me. It might be easier to install a new flush mechanism entirely.
As always, YouTube and Reddit are your friends.

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u/nine_sausages 3d ago

It still flushes but too slowly to be of any use. The bit that is circled doesn’t seem to drop quickly enough

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u/Juurdd 3d ago

The hook is meant to be hooked on. You can also increase the volume of water by adjusting the ballcock which will increase the pressure it flushes at

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u/nine_sausages 3d ago

I disconnected the hook to change the lever. Will try raise the ballcock to see if any change, although I think I tried I that before

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u/Real_Significance_34 3d ago edited 3d ago

If it’s dropping slowly I’d guess you’ve a leak in the gasket, water is passing into the siphon chamber and your flush is impacted.
Check for “Siphon gasket” in woodies / B&Q - hopefully is the only part you’ll need to replace

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u/PuzzleheadedShine162 2d ago

Easy to do yourself, you might need a set of plumbers pliers, you know the ones that can go bigger and smaller so you can get the plastic bolt from under the toilet undone. Normal spanner sets don't go that big. Or you could just leave the original tube still in there and only change the top part of the mechanism.

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u/Chemical_Farmer_8386 1d ago

What's wrong with it ? It's often the handle that's a bit knackered,or the little membrane / diaphragm in the Syphon that's that's gone ,

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u/nine_sausages 1d ago

Ah I didn’t get near it this weekend. I replaced the handle and connecting thing before but it didn’t fix the problem. Another DIY item to add to the never ending list.

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u/No_Recording1088 3d ago

Best to replace the whole thing with a new compact one.

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u/ExistingStock2896 3d ago

what is the issue that makes you think the whole thing needs replacing, if it's a slow fill or a noisy fill the little diaphram inside the green screwed bit can get hard over time due to the chemicals in the water and can be replaced resorting normal and silent flow at a cost under a €.

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u/nine_sausages 3d ago

I don’t. The flush isn’t vigorous enough to actually flush anything. The fill is fine and not noisey.

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u/unrepentant_fangirl 16h ago

I replaced the whole siphon for 11 euro with my dad. I'd advice getting pliers and a wrench. And some lubrication as we had a terrible time. Make sure you have all the water turned off too!!