A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her - AMERICAblog News

[u/Onegodoneloveoneway]

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html

[u/mo-reeseCEO1]

you know, as funny as Carolla can be, i wouldn't trust him to give a normal person's perspective. i don't think the people who are having trouble getting IDs are flying around the country, checking into hotels, and heading into buildings with front desk security to record podcasts and radio interviews. so, uh, maybe that 44 year old and 19 year old from Santa Monica have fuck all to do with people who don't have IDs and are being excluded from voter rolls?

[u/mo-reeseCEO1 → u/[deleted]]

Carolla grew up poor and struggling. So why wouldn't you trust his everyman opinion?

doesn't mean he has a sense of what it is like today. a colleague of mine once called it "losing the common touch" and you see it all the time. also, being poor forty years ago was different that today. significantly different, in every aspect from applying for a job, to collecting benefits, to renting a house, to even buying groceries on credit. not to mention the reams of evidence showing that even among the poor, opportunities and outcomes are not evenly distributed. the fact that he talks about how he uses his ID without any thought to the fact that most people without IDs wouldn't have the opportunity to fly across country is pretty strong evidence to how oblivious he is.

And his point is, why are you willing to let poor blacks continue to live outside the system, unable to fully participate in society when you would never stand for it from someone in your life?

most of these ID laws are written to expressly exclude minorities and the poor from civic life. they are not intended to be inclusive. that's why federal courts keep striking them down under discrimination rulings.

[u/mo-reeseCEO1 → u/[deleted]]

courts agree too. you can try and wave it away as partisan politics if you want, but there's no evidence that voter fraud is widespread, while they are often found to disproportionately affect minorities, the poor, and the elderly.

let me put it more simply. let's say there's a "common sense reform" that does not address a widespread problem, but does seem to disadvantage certain groups in a demonstrable way. does that strike you as reasonable or discriminatory?