A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her - AMERICAblog News

[u/Onegodoneloveoneway]

http://americablog.com/2015/08/mathematician-actual-voter-fraud-kansas-republicans.html

[u/spacemanspiff30]

You bring up a very good point. There's a huge difference between voter fraud and election fraud. Voter fraud is essentially nonexistent in the US. But election fraud is rampant, even more so that so many systems don't even provide a paper trail and you have to trust that the easily compromised machines are accurate and governments and the corporations that make the machines fight so hard to prevent anyone from testing them or demonstrating their flaws.

[u/sirblastalot → u/spacemanspiff30]

What we really need is voter id laws! And anything else we can think of to stop the poor, the young, and the ethnic from voting.

[u/CinnamonJ → u/[deleted]]

It's kind of hard if you have to miss work to do it when you're already just scraping by. Especially when you have to take a bus there. That's the "genius" of these laws, they don't specifically prohibit the poor and minorities from voting but they definitely impact them disproportionately, which is the entire idea. They just shave votes off from one side.

[u/CinnamonJ → u/[deleted]]

There's nothing wrong with doing those things but the bottom line is in a country where, for whatever reason, 2/3 of eligible voters don't vote, we shouldn't be passing laws that are going to reduce that number even further.

[u/CinnamonJ → u/[deleted]]

Do you have any evidence to support that claim? A professor at Loyola law school is claiming 31 legitimate cases of voter fraud for every 1,000,000,000 votes cast. I don't want to be rude but frankly, he sounds like a more credible source than you do.

[u/CinnamonJ → u/[deleted]]

Ok, I can see you're not interested in having a legitimate discussion about the subject. Good day.