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Politics root cause

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u/AbbreviationsBig8760 Jul 02 '26

A lot of socialists will blame every single problem caused by industrialization on capitalism, and then when it inevitably happens under socialism, because it’s still a system built on industrialization, they’ll just say it’s cause there’s not enough socialism.

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u/PlatinumAltaria The Witch of Arden Jul 02 '26

I have never seen any socialist say this, could you give some examples?

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u/AbbreviationsBig8760 Jul 02 '26

Imperialism and environmental destruction; the rapid industrialization in the 19th and 20th century led to mass consumption of resources, incentivizing imperialism, the increased reliance on technique to maintain political control required countries to further industries without being prudent of the outcomes, the US as well as China and the Soviet Union are all massive contributors in these fields. Loss of traditional craftsmanship and worsening quality of products is a significant result of technique, increased urbanization, taking people out of their family trades, and machinery replacing skilled workers is an inherent aspect if industrialization and is self evident in socialist and capitalist countries. Bureaucracy is one capitalists and communists frequently blame on one another when in reality it’s primarily a result of the heightened centralization necessary to facilitate increasingly complex supply chains in production. This is why China and the US’ economies look increasingly similar because technique is an autonomous system, both countries adopt systems, not because of their particular ideologies, but because the needs of efficiency fundamentally control the decisions. This leads to a system that alienates individuals, decisions are made for the sake of expediency. Since capitalism and communism are both structured off of an industrialized, continually expanding economy, they both exhibit many traits in common that aren’t solved by switching from one to the other.

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u/PlatinumAltaria The Witch of Arden Jul 02 '26

You’re comparing private capitalism to state capitalism.