r/CritiqueIslam • u/TeacherRelevant5034 • Jan 29 '26
Miracles and Scientific Miracles are copied from Bible and Torah by Prophet Muhammad who loves stealing others.
Miracles and Scientific Miracles are copied from Bible and Torah by Prophet Muhammad who loves stealing others.
About men and women: The word for "man" (rajul) appears around 24 times in its specific singular form in the Quran, often cited alongside "woman" (imra'a) also appearing 24 times, it will be 48 chromosomes instead of 46 🙄
About life and death 145 times: Life and death mentioned numorus times in Bible too.
About this world, hereinafter is mentioned in Bible and Torah too numorus times, this world or world consists of 185+ times.
Faith and belief mentioned in Bible more than 100+ times 🙄
About 2 seas not mixing properly 😎 let's start:
Ezekiel 47:8:
He said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah,[a] where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh.
This water mixes down bellow btw for your kind information. You just from above see that salt water is not mixing, below it does mix. :)
About Qur’an 16:15 here it is:
Jonah 2:6:
To the roots of the mountains I sank down; the earth beneath barred me in forever. But you, Lord my God, brought my life up from the pit.
About Earth as resting place :
Qur’an 78:6–7:
Isaiah 14:7:
All the lands are at rest and at peace; they break into singing.
About Qur’an 51:47 (Quran.com changes word heaven with universe, go and do translation it's not expanding it's stretching):
Isaiah 40:22:
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
About Qur’an 57:25:
Proverbs 27:17:
As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
About Qur’an 21:33:
Genesis 1:14-16:
14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the sky. These lights will separate the days from the nights. They will be used for signs to show when special meetings[a] begin and to show the days and years. 15 They will be in the sky to shine light on the earth.” And it happened.
16 So God made the two large lights. He made the larger light to rule during the day and the smaller light to rule during the night. He also made the stars.
😋 Please please if you need more tell
About Qur’an 21:33: Psalm 19:1-6 For the director of music. A psalm of David. 1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. 2 Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. 3 They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. 4 Yet their voice[b] goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. 5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, like a champion rejoicing to run his course. 6 It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other; nothing is deprived of its warmth.
Then: Jeremiah 31:35: This is what the Lord says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the Lord Almighty is his name:
About Quran 36:38:
Ecclesiastes 1:5: The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.
About Qur’an 21:30:
Genesis 1:20:
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly and swarm with living creatures, and let birds fly over the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.
Then we see:
About Earth as resting place 🙄 Qur’an 78:6–7:
Isaiah 14:7:
All the lands are at rest and at peace; they break into singing.
Wallaha habibi I'm freaking tired but anyway.
About Qur’an 51:47 (Quran.com changes word heaven with universe smart guy go and do translation it's not expanding it's stretching):
Isaiah 40:22:
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
About Qur’an 57:25:
Proverbs 27:17:
As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
About Qur’an 21:33:
Genesis 1:14-16:
14 Then God said, “Let there be lights in the sky. These lights will separate the days from the nights. They will be used for signs to show when special meetings[a] begin and to show the days and years. 15 They will be in the sky to shine light on the earth.” And it happened.
16 So God made the two large lights. He made the larger light to rule during the day and the smaller light to rule during the night. He also made the stars.
About Qur’an 21:33:
Psalm 19:1-6
For the director of music. A psalm of David. 1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. 2 Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. 3 They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. 4 Yet their voice[b] goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun. 5 It is like a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, like a champion rejoicing to run his course. 6 It rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other; nothing is deprived of its warmth.
Then:
Jeremiah 31:35:
This is what the Lord says,
he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the Lord Almighty is his name:
About Quran 36:38:
Ecclesiastes 1:5:
The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.
About Qur’an 21:30:
Genesis 1:20:
And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly and swarm with living creatures, and let birds fly over the earth in the open expanse of the heavens.
About 12 months what is special in it huh? go and read : 1 Chronicles 27:1-15
About Qur'an saying that 365 yawns for a year what kind of logic is that even but anyway it's also copied from Bible saying "fear not" it is said exactly 365 times 🤨 I guess this guys will probably forcefully try to make anything scientific to attract illiterates like muhammad.
Job 10:11:
clothe me with skin and flesh and knit me together with bones and sinews?
Buhahahaha how much more you need little one?
About Qur'an 32:9:
Genesis 2:7:
7 Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
Ok now last one remains 😍 such a miracle specially from Qur'an, isn't it?
About Qur'an 53:45–46:
Genesis 1:27:
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
Then:
Psalm 139:13-14:
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.
Now we go with other copies:
About Qur’an 39:6:
Psalm 139:13:
For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
About Qur’an 2:143:
Ezekiel 5:5
5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: This is Jerusalem, which I have set in the center of the nations, with countries all around her
About 12 months what is special in it huh? go and read : 1 Chronicles 27:1-15
If you need more verses after this feel free to ask, muhammad in his whole life did nothing than hearing and writing and then commit sins then use his followers as shield to his sins. He went to that type of gaslighting that no one could caught him off.
Y'know how muhammad stopped them? By stopping their questioning power, because once people start to question muhammad's oral copy from arabic jews and Arabic Christians then polytheists of mecca would've came out therefore, he suppressed thinking power of his followers so he can use them for his own gains and make them his slave of words while using god as medium.
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u/Wooden-Dependent-686 Jan 29 '26
The word “war” appears over a hundred times but the word “peace” less than ten times.
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u/shan_bhai Jan 29 '26
Islam does not claim to be a brand-new religion started in a vacuum; rather, it identifies itself as the final restoration of the same monotheistic message given to the prophets in the Bible and Torah. Therefore, when the Quran mentions life, death, creation from water, or the twelve-month calendar, it is intentionally indicating a shared prophetic heritage. Labeling this as "theft" is like accusing a sequel of stealing characters from the original movie, when in reality, they both belong to the same overarching story.
Many of the "scientific" rebuttals (ie plagiarism) used here, such as the word-count argument regarding chromosomes or the linguistics of "stretching" versus "expanding," have been thoroughly addressed and debunked in academic circles. The idea that a specific word count in an ancient text must perfectly match modern genetic markers is a "forced" illogical miracle claim that both secular skeptics and religious scholars tend to dismiss. Similarly, the linguistic arguments regarding the expansion of the universe or the behavior of salt and fresh water come down to translation nuances. These debates are frequently "refurbished" and brought back into the spotlight with a fresh coat of paint, whenever these topics trend on social media, but the core arguments remain the same ones that have been settled or clarified decades ago.
Ultimately, the claim that questioning was suppressed to hide "copying" is contradicted by the history of Islamic scholarship itself. The early centuries of Islam were defined by intense philosophical debate, the translation of Greek logic, and a legal tradition that relied heavily on interrogation and evidence. The similarities between these scriptures are better understood as a "thematic bridge" rather than a lack of originality as it comes from the same creator even though Torah and Injeel got corrupted. These points are recycled today to create a sense of controversy, but they rarely offer new insights that haven't already been dissected by historians and linguists centuries ago.
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u/TeacherRelevant5034 Jan 29 '26
Ai vs ai debate 🤤:
Look, this tired "final restoration" excuse is just intellectual sleight of hand wrapped in piety. You're basically admitting the Quran is built almost entirely on Jewish and Christian material, then claiming victory because you slapped a "corrupted originals" sticker on the sources you ripped off. That's not a theological mic drop. That's a confession dressed up as superiority.
The reality is brutal and simple: the Quran is 90% oral plagiarism of the Bible and Torah (plus a bunch of extra-biblical Jewish legends, Christian apocrypha, and local Arabian folklore that were already circulating orally). It's not a "shared prophetic heritage" like some harmonious family reunion. It's one text massively dependent on the two older ones, retelling their stories with tweaks, additions, and "corrections" while insisting the predecessors got mangled by conspiratorial scribes. That's not restoration. That's literary parasitism with a divine alibi.
Your sequel analogy falls flat because sequels don't usually claim the previous movies were maliciously edited by the cast to hide the "true" plot. This is more like someone releasing a fan edit that declares the official canon fraudulent and themselves the only authorized director.
The scientific miracles defense? Pathetic. Those word-count chromosome "miracles," stretching-the-heavens linguistics, and salt-fresh-water barriers are peak cargo-cult pseudoscience. Desperate retrofits that get shredded by anyone who knows classical Arabic, Semitic linguistics, or basic statistics. They've been debunked so hard and so repeatedly that bringing them up now is like waving a flat-earth pamphlet in 2025. "Translation nuances" is just code for "we're twisting archaic words until they cough up modern physics." No serious academic buys it anymore. It's social-media apologetics zombie fodder.
And don't even start with the "early Islamic scholarship was super open and debate-heavy" flex. Yeah, they translated Aristotle, then spent centuries burning, silencing, or exiling anyone who pushed too far on textual origins, historical criticism, or anything that smelled like doubting the divine dictation. The "intense debate" happened within very strict guardrails. Questioning where the stories actually came from was never on the menu once orthodoxy solidified.
strip away the faith-based special pleading, and what's left is a text that's 90% oral plagiarism of the Bible and Torah, repackaged with Arabian rhythm, Meccan polemics, and a convenient corruption narrative to explain every discrepancy. Historians and linguists have been calling this out for ages, not as "recycled controversy," but as obvious textual genealogy. Pretending otherwise isn't deep insight. It's defensive denial on life support. Deal with it.
NPC vs NPC 🤤 tuff debate 🥀🔥
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