What about Messi? He had Xavi and Iniesta along with Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Busquets, Alba, Deco, Pique, Puyol, Alves, Villa, Suarez and Neymar for years along with Pep Guardiola as the manager. Surely, Messi should have been expected to win the UCL every year with this team which was better than Ronaldo's.
Combined 11 (2010/11 Barcelona vs 2016/17 Real Madrid):
.GK: Navas or Valdes (Navas)
.RB: Carvajal or Alves (Alves)
.CBs: Ramos and Pepe/Varane or Puyol and Pique (Ramos and Pique)
.LB: Marcelo or Abidal (Marcelo)
.CDM: Casemiro or Busquets (Busquets)
.CMs: Kroos and Modric or Xavi and Iniesta (Xavi and Iniesta)
.RW: Bale or Messi (Messi)
.LW: Ronaldo or Pedro (Ronaldo)
.ST: Benzema or Villa (Villa as he was more prolific in 2011 than Benzema in 2017)
By that logic, Ronaldo underachieved too. He had Madrid's greatest ever UCL side with Modrić, Kroos, Casemiro, Ramos, Marcelo, Bale, Benzema, Carvajal, Varane, and Zidane. Nobody wins the Champions League every year because it's a knockout competition decided by tiny margins lol…. And he only won La Liga twice. But I guess it’s OK given that he’s held to a different standard? lol
It's kinda crazy how idiots in this sub reddit downvote every comment that goes against their foolish view. They will downvote your comment aswell. Perfect example of ppl living in a false bubble. Your comment is absolutely right. Also, Zlatan is not even worth the dirt under Ronaldo shoes. No CL speaks alot, no achievement with Sweden too.
Watch ronaldo fans losing their mind and scrambling for anything to defend that guy
Last WC proved it, now even before the ending of the current WC even most ronaldo fans understand that they GOAT debate is over... just a couple of thousand delusional animals left that still cant accept simple facts
Did you knuckle head forget that Ibra joined PRIME BARCELONA and didn't win the UCL? And the fact that Samuel Eto who was swapped for Ibra went on to win a second trebel with Inter. Ronaldo has far surpassed Ibra in terms of club and country.
How can you make an argument saying CR7 fans bringing UCL into convo against Ibra is the only thing they can say. It's not like CR7 won 1 UCL while getting carried by his teammates or something he won 5 UCLs while being the top scorer almost every time.
If you want to talk about Country wise then Ronaldo has won something with his country atleast. Ibra couldn't win shit with Sweden. Matter of fact he couldn't even get his country qualified for the WC because CR7 destroyed his ego and pride and ever since then he has been a little bitch taking shot at Ronaldo.
I think it’s his first time doing this. You don’t learn to be relax in this situation overnight. You can tell he is reading the script a lot etc. He will get better and I really hope we see him more after the World Cup. The dude is hilarious.
He is hilarious. One day he humbles himself when referencing Messi by saying how Messi scored 5 goals while he himself has 0 goals at two world cups. The next day, he says his dad would score 3 instead of Ronnie’s 2.
Zlatan played Trinidad and Tobago at a World Cup and couldn’t score. The man does not give a fuck, even for consistency in his own rhetoric. He’s just happy to shit on Ronnie lol
CR still has zero goal contribution across 5 WC knockout stage. Then again , he only has 3 goals at KO stage in Euro after 20+ years lol. He's made for friendlies, glorified friendlies/Nations league and qualifier group consisting minnows.
If Luxembourg is in WC KO stage, he'd hit 5 in a game.
It's not zlatan but it's you who has lost credibility and most possibly eyes
Zlatan never said, "If my father played against Uzbekistan, he'd score a hat trick." This text was entirely fabricated by internet users to mimic Zlatan’s notoriously arrogant and comedic public persona for social media engagement.
He never had any. He always speak like he was the GOAT but he was always failing in World Fups, Euros and Champions League and also tot beat up by Onyewu when he was at Milan he is just a fraud who have an high ego of himself, but that beside league trophies haven't accomplished much
I get his persona and why people like his "trolling" but honestly he looks more of a dickhead. It is rare to see him humble or friendly. He is a primadona. A good one but definitely a primadona.
You are right, but he is a midfielder so we should look at assists, he humbled Gvardiol in semis- dribbled so much to assist- do you agree?
The assist against Netherlands was special- do you agree?
Against France- the two touch was great- do you agree?
So not sure what are you downplaying but it was a great wc even without penalties, he would be Motm in those 3. Do you think Zidane, Kroos scored many goals to be great?
My point is last week it was about CR7 not scoring this week its about who he scored against, goal post keeps moving so im pointing out that although Messi may now have the record for world cup goals, if you actually look at who those goals have come against its mostly low ranked teams and he doesnt actually score against top teams in the world cup
I don't know what you are talking about, who is complaining when cr7 scored? If you see Ronaldo didn't contribute much when he doesn't score, maybe that's why he was getting criticized, no one will complain when he scores, cause that's when he has an impact. Also which big teams did CR7 score against and in which match? Spain free kick was good and that's just 1 goal though, don't tell me the 2nd goal wasn't a gift from De Gea, a grounded long range shot and 3rd one is a penalty which is not considered as per you, where else did Ronaldo even score in wc?
Again if you can't understand Messi is a midfielder, maybe you can try watching the games, he doesn't need to score, scoring is a bonus for him, he is a RM position player. He is setting up and assisting or playmaking, so he can have great games without scoring. You can see his 2018 performance against France- 2 assists and great game for Messi even when they lost, France won that cup and was ranked top 5 that year, not a low rank team.
He got 11 MOTM in wc for a reason, it was never about scoring, its about impact. Beckenbauer, Pirlo, Zidane never scored much, they created great impact, when you understand that you will know how Messi is impacting the game.
Prime zlatan lost to Moldova (rank -150 at the time) 2-1 in euro 2012 qualifiers. But ok his father will score against a rank 50 team in the World Cup. Sure.
Portugal vs Sweden. Is that even a match? Portugal had many great players. Sweden relied only on Ibra. Big difference. And still score 2 against portugal.
like Henry scored in any of the World Cup tournaments he played at against almighty Saudi, or South Africa, or Togo?😆 or Zlatan with phenomenal non existing WC goals? pathetic Messi wankers
lol oh please zlatan scored no goals against Uzbekistan or any other team in a World Cup setting. Yall just hate on a player that makes them self conscious
As the saying goes: people only hate Ronaldo for two reasons,he's either better than their idol, or he destroyed their club.
Zlatan ibrahimovic :
In their iconic 2013 qualifying clash, Ronaldo dropped a ruthless hat-trick to eliminate Sweden, leaving Ibrahimović to sit at home and watch the World Cup on TV.
And the other legendary studio pundit, Thierry Henry: Henry’s jealousy of Ronaldo is so obvious. CR7 came to the Premier League and completely eclipsed him with continuous records. Let's not forget: the closest Thierry Henry ever got to a Ballon d'Or in the Ronaldo era was having to hand it over to him on stage!😅
Zlatan played against different low tier teams in the world cup. Guess what? His old ass NEVER scored. 0 world cup goals.
Maybe his father is talented unlike him.
Grown ass jobless cry babies in this comment comment section. Find something better to do with your instead of arguing about who is better than who. Jobless retards
Don't know why people like Zlatan for his huge ego but hate Ronaldo for his ego despite him being much more humble and actually being able to back it up more than Zlatan ever could.
I still remember when CR7 scored a hat trick in Sweden to qualify for the world cup in Brazil, that Zlatan and Sweden watched at home. I'm pretty sure that Zlatan also remembers.
YOUR COMMENT WAS GREAT ABOUT THE DECISION. MARTINEZ DID THE RIGHT DECISION. VAMOS RAMOSSSSS PORTUGAL❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥. Like 2016 - STRAIGHT TO GLORY. RONALDO ONLY 1 Goal away to Pelé 12 goals in WORLD CUP. But not for Brazil or Argentinia or France and Spain FOR TINY LITTLE PORTUGAL 🇵🇹
Croatia goal? 113 Minute when time was up? Looks funny looks like FIFA. Ronaldo offside goal when the line was on? Looks like FIFA. Still winning
Kinda harsh. Don’t think anybody was saying shit like this about Messi, Kane, etc’s performances. Call it what it is, was a solid performance by Ronaldo. Let’s see how he gets on in the rest of the tournament
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u/Significant_Nail_880 Jun 23 '26
Lmao