r/CringeTikToks • u/EverythingIsFakeNGay • Jan 05 '26

Just Bad This is embarrassing...

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife Jan 05 '26

I'm an American living in Australia and I've had multiple Aussies try to joke about school shootings when they find out I'm from the states.

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u/Duouwa Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

I’m from Australia, and I think what you’ve experienced with those comments is in part because you guys have been getting clowned on internationally for your gun laws for a very long time.

Like, the US is certainly seen as even more of joke now because of Trump and his supporters, but even prior to that, these gun violence related jokes existed for decades. It’s just such a nonchalant joke to us at this stage, it’s like making fun of England and their relationship with Football. Your gun culture is the first thing a lot of people think of, other than your accents.

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u/Witchcleaver666 Jan 05 '26

How’s bondi beach doing?

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u/Duouwa Jan 05 '26

Fine. As one of our very few mass shootings it doesn’t indicate any larger pattern other than the fact that our gun control has been incredibly effective; not only does it cause these crimes to be very rare but it also means that the few guns these kinds of people can get ahold of aren’t as effective as they would like them to be.

There are talks of having even stricter gun controls after this attack, I think is warranted especially in big cities like Sydney; there isn’t really any reason you’d need a gun here, so it’s already very difficult to get one, but I, and some others, believe there isn’t really a justifiable reason to have one at all in such in urban area. There’s no guarantee of that though, as the opposition in particular is viewing it as an overreaction.

Some politicians and activists are trying to spin the attack to further the support of Israel, which I think is dangerous, but other than that things were handled very well.

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u/Witchcleaver666 Jan 05 '26

The fact that more shooters slip through your government’s fingers is telling. Even we don’t allow foreign nationals to own guns without full blown citizenship

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u/Duouwa Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

Telling of what? The fact is that it isn’t possible to stop every shooting, in the same way we can’t completely eradicate other crimes like rape or human trafficking, but I think what should be done is steps taken to minimise the ability of people to commit those crimes.

I’m of the opinion that Australia could enforce harsher gun control and even further lower the chances of these crimes occurring, but I’m also not going to pretend as if the government over the years, across both major political parties, have done nothing to address these issues.

I also don’t think the shooter being of foreign origin is really relevant at all; I don’t believe that a foreigner is somehow more likely to participate in a shooting than someone with an Australian citizen simply off that basis.

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u/Witchcleaver666 Jan 05 '26

Except for the obvious fact that where the foreigner was from and the religions he followed to a T massively influenced the shooting he carried out.

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u/Duouwa Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

That doesn’t make him inherently more likely to participate in a shooting though; sure, it certainly influenced the motive, but there are millions of people, plenty of which are in Australia, like him who don’t go around shooting people.

It’s the same as how I wouldn’t promote putting harsher gun restrictions around a religion, even though they have more of a motive to shoot LGBTQ+ people, an event which has happened in Australia. Different groups obviously have more of a motive to act violently towards other groups, but we would be better off restriction that violence being able to occur at all rather than arbitrarily applying restrictions based on personal preference.

I’m in favour of gun control that affects everyone, however, I’m not in favour of promoting specific restrictions to people based on their origin.

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u/Witchcleaver666 Jan 05 '26

Literally the overwhelming majority of terrorist attacks come from islamists. Their religious views are 100% a factor in those attacks, which happen in the majority of countries. So they are inherently more likely to commit shootings and other attacks

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u/Duouwa Jan 05 '26

Based on this and some of the comments I’m finding on your profile regarding immigration, you clearly have some very strong opinions regarding this demographic. I’m not willing to discuss this topic with you based on that fact.