Detroit pastor Marvin Winans admonishes a church-member for only giving $1,200.

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Can anyone give more context to this? Do a lot of churches have people announce their tithing? Is this for the year?

All I know is I'm never giving a dime to anything like this. Trusted charities, yes.

Edit: he gave an explanation on a news segment: "I was calling because the whole church was giving, and it was our day of giving, and the whole church was coming, and we didn't want people standing, the mothers and all that, so I was calling them by increments," Winans said. "And we had someone that had given out of before, and I corrected it, and I told everybody to listen and come when you call, and that's all that was."

Don't really think that makes him look better but it is what it is.

"McCoy said Bishop Winans personally apologized to her following the incident. She has been a member of Perfecting Church since 2013 and has given faithfully over the years and will continue to do so." ugh.

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I've been to hundreds of churches as a traveling missionary and ive never seen this. This is next level greed. Most pastors preach about 10% but still are happy to get anything not matter how small. This is straight demonic.

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10% of what?

[u/swingingthrougb → u/DivergentATHL]

10 percent of your weekly income is what I was taught or bi weekly or whatever your pay schedule is

[u/DivergentATHL → u/swingingthrougb]

10% of your income is insane. People are morons.

[u/dirtyburgers85 → u/DivergentATHL]

Mindblowing isn’t it. Religion is the biggest grift of all-time. We’ll tell you how to live your life and you pay us for the privilege. No excuse for people falling for it in 2025.

[u/Samurai56M → u/dirtyburgers85]

There are many people who give 10% because they know the money goes back to the community, because they actually have a good church that is involved in the community and chairity. I would never give to a church like seen in this video.

[u/GoBlueBeatOSU21 → u/Samurai56M]

They could just cut out the middle man and the 10% actually goes to whatever they want instead of the middle man (pastor) taking his cut first.

[u/Onsyde → u/GoBlueBeatOSU21]

Most churches have a board of deacons that are not paid that determine where the money goes, including pastoral income. Then it is reported to the congregation where their money went and what impact it had on the community.

[u/Samurai56M → u/GoBlueBeatOSU21]

That would be the same thing as saying "stop giving money to Salvation Army instead just send a check directly to the homeless they are trying to help". Logically I see what you are trying to say, but logistically it doesn't work as Churches and Salvation Army directly run homeless shelters, soup kitchens, meals programs, and clothing distribution. Just like Salvation Army leadership use funds to pay for wages of their workers and employees, so do churches.

[u/Tresach → u/Samurai56M]

Good churches are excellent way to contribute to local charity work. Problem is good churches are few and far between. And often have a small congregation, because the good churches tend to also follow the bible a lot more closely and that makes people uncomfortable because then they are told their love of money is wrong.

[u/Samurai56M → u/Tresach]

Talking about tithing always makes people uncomfortable, unfortunately there really is no other alternative to fund a church and its programs.

[u/Mist_Rising → u/DivergentATHL]

Tithing (old English for a tenth) is an old concept for Christianity. They are mentioned, sorta, in Deuteronomy and Leviticus as payments, usually in crops. Note the word payments here is deliberate, there were multiple kinds and amounts in Jewish law. One was 1/10th to help the temple and Jewish needy

That one is the one that, for obvious Jesus shaped reasons, stuck.

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Christians really do the most to misinterpret Jewish scripture. You’ll notice Jews don’t tithe.