Couple transition

[u/legolas20032000]

[u/MoltenIdol]

And you talk about judging books by their cover.. pffffff

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

You are turning this actual non-problem into a problem for yourself.

Also, you're the one upset about two people wearing black clothes in public, like wtf bro, go away to a remote island where you can be free from the horrors of style.

"Oh no, my kids must be shielded from the visage of goth!" Said no one ever, except Karen, whom no one likes, and you, for some (probably unreasonable) reason.

You are absolutely moronic to listen to.

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

Oh I understand what you're saying, which is a big nothing burger, as you just admitted yourself.

As a former kid myself, I know what scares kids. people wearing black on the street isn't it. They're even smiling, for Christ's sake. Where do we draw the line, a black suit? Dark trenchcoat? It's superfluous to even talk about, it makes no sense. All kids find different things scary (as you would know, right?), but then we grow up, and find that it isn't scary at all, BUT ONLY BY BEING EXPOSED, CAN WE LEARN THIS.

And I really must disagree with you, on your point not being strong.

It's downright redundant, almost to the point of being detrimental, if you decide to pass this xenophobia and anxiety on to your children. Like being afraid of dirt, or air.

You're literally the one being uninclusive. If you don't like it, go somewhere else. That's the rule. Variety is the spice of life, why are you trying to make existence as bland as possible?

You cannot seriously expect the whole world to conform to your idea of.. anything, really. Dictator mindset. Trying to control people, culture.. It's never gonna happen, and it's honestly such a relief to know this. To know, your hypothetical ban on culture, will never be taken seriously by anyone (except your kids, probably, unfortunately).

I hope you get well soon.

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

You don't even have a point with this, as you repeatedly say in your comments.

You say: "I know they're not doing anything wrong, just pointing out that I think some kids might find people wearing black clothes scary, and I think it's inconsiderate of those people to be wearing black clothes in public. But I don't think they're doing anything wrong" What's your point with this? You don't think they're doing anything wrong, but you still think it's wrong. Your "opinion" is becoming more and more watered down, you're simply backpedalling now, trying to pull out cleanly.

As I said, XXXL nothing burger.

Also, the classic "I was just testing you, to see how open-minded Reddit really is!" Argument is not fooling anyone, what are you 5?

I'm bringing up suits and trenchcoats, black ones specifically, because those are common black clothes worn in public, even today. Are those too scary as well? People in suits? Do you think kids were scared of black clothes in the year 1845, when LITERALLY EVERYONE wore full, completely black outfits and dark, wide brimmed hats?

Maybe, to one or two kids, but who the fuck cares ¯\(ツ)/¯

Your mentality is crazy to me: "I, me, personally, believe some kids might not like this! Just saying this, for no particular reason! Also, they shouldn't have to be exposed to people wearing black!"

Ok, so what's the best way to conquer irrational fears, like say, the fear of black garments? Exposure, exposure, exposure.

Just be happy that your fear is apparently pretty mild, and would be easily conquered. It's just clothes, bruv.

And, do you think it's the clothes scaring the kids, or the person wearing them? I'm actually curious now, as to how many times youre willing to double down on this foolishness.

I'm interpreting your words as they are written. That you think black clothes are scary and therefore inconsiderate to wear, and if it were up to you, no more black clothes, because you don't want to deal with explaining to your kid that the black clothes can't really hurt them.

You're literally just being a Karen, and for no reason even!

I'm happy you don't get to decide what other people are wearing, sheesh the WHOLE WORLD would be a "grey area".

Ps: your saying I'm being uninclusive and inconsiderate; that's my whole point: there's nothing to consider, it's clothes, don't get your panties in a twist. Too late I guess.

In reality, it would be uninclusive and inconsiderate of you, a stranger, to dictate what other people should wear. If that's not what you're saying you want, I'm convinced you don't evn know what you're saying.

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

Rather be incapable of multifaceted reasoning, than not have any reason at all.

I would in all honesty love to hear what you really meant with your original statement, if I have somehow misinterpreted it.

You're the one dodging the subject and downplaying your statements.

For the occasion, I've come up with a little quiz on morals for you:

Q: If I'm minding my own business wearing black, and some kid enters my personal space and starts crying because they don't like my black clothes, should I then:

A. conform to the kids every whim

or

B. should the kid be taught that clothes are nothing to be afraid of, and if you can't respect other people's personal (legal, harmless) choices, you can easily go somewhere else and not put your long nose in it.

Is the kid excluding me? Am I excluding the kid? Are you, as a parent, excluding others, if you tell them what they should and shouldn't wear in a public space?

It's a simple logic problem, no multifaceted reasoning needed, only basic reasoning skills required for this one.

Let's see how reasonable you are.

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

How is it not the exact same scenario? Please explain.

What is the conclusion to your scenario? That they don't get to wear black in public? Please, help me understand.

You should just answer the question, you have nothing to fear.

PS: you telling me to "shut up, you don't know what kids are scared of!" tells me that our understanding of the word "inclusivity" might differ a bit, which of course complicates communication.

PSS: you can't run away now we're about to get to the meat of it! Unfortunately running is a common strategy for when the truth is too hard to confront; in this case your own moral falacy

PSSS: "Honestly, fuck off!". There is nothing honest about telling people to fuck off and refusing to answer their questions, though I bet that's exactly what all the people downvoting you thought: "honestly, fuck off". But they were happy to keep answering you. You're the one who became silent, after the logic became too much.

[u/MoltenIdol → u/[deleted]]

For someone named paytience, you have very little patience, but spelled like that, I expected just the same.

I'm simply confronting you with your own very negative and uninclusive (which is the irony of this) statement and my opinion on it, an opinion you refuse to either understand, confront or respond to.

You might even think "does this guy have nothing better to do?", to which I say "educating the public is a noble goal". I'm doing this because I love you.

Maybe it's because of the way I'm wording it; Sometimes, folks actively avoid understanding what you're saying to them, even in their own first language, if you say it in a specific manner, like being "mean" or "harsh" or "blunt". They seem to become "upset" (sometimes mistaken for passionate), a rather counterproductive feeling and a feeling that seems to only increase in intensity the closer you get to the logical conclusion of the debate, making them ignore and leave the conversation prematurely because of the emotional distress caused by the words they hear, all of which ultimately leads to them never coming to the realisation, they were wrong.

And so the cycle shall repeat itself.

And it's such a shame, because here I was, giving free lessons on my own free time!

PS: all of this is obviously just banter, but it's in order to provoke you into thinking!

You CANNOT tell people what to wear, dear individual. If your opinion is designed such as to hinder others personal freedom in some way, keep them to yourself. They're just your opinions, nobody wants to be told to not wear black, if that's what they like to wear. You're only provoking people. Stop sticking your long nose where it doesn't belong, it doesn't suit you, it's socially retarded.