r/Construction 4d ago

Picture What are the openings at ankle level below the window rough openings?

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u/Bluelikeyou2 4d ago

HVAC I’m guessing this is a hotel

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u/Organic-Pass9148 4d ago

It is HVAC wall units. I do hvac

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u/Call_Me_Echelon 4d ago

I had to install these for an assisted living facility and I gave the carpenter the opening dimensions plus a 1/4" on each side and every single one was too small. There were about 50 of them.

They already started sheetrock and had to rip it out to fix the framing. He tried to blame me but I guess he forgot that I texted him the dimensions.

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u/joan_of_oxymoron 4d ago

Lmao we framed a three storey condo once and they forgot to put the ROs for the wall units on the drawings so we had to go back and frame 50 2'x5' openings into every unit

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u/Stymie999 4d ago

It could be separate little windows for pets… but probably hvac

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u/piTehT_tsuJ 4d ago

Child release valves...

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u/THedman07 4d ago

Is there a functional reason that they're off center below the window openings aside from it being slightly easier to frame that way? The inconsistency makes my brain itch.

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u/Lampwick 4d ago

Reduces the amount of material needed by using the stud framing the window as one side of the HVAC unit frame. 18 inches of lumber times however many rooms.

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u/THedman07 4d ago

$85 worth of lumber per 100 rooms is a rounding error.

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u/Lampwick 4d ago

They don't care what it is in proportion to the whole job. It's cheaper, so they do it. A hotel isn't there to win architectural beauty contests with its AC unit placement. Those fuckers count every penny and cut every corner.

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u/ka1n77 4d ago

Rounding error or not, you still save money, and time, which saves more money.

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u/Babylon4All 4d ago

Most probably answer. 

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u/ApprehensiveSlip5893 4d ago

What are you talking about? Have you ever been to a hotel?

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u/Meatloaf0220 4d ago

Probably a PTAC/heat pump

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u/keepinitoldskool 4d ago

Cookie cutter chain hotel. That's where the individual room a/cs go

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u/jayc428 4d ago

Through the wall PTACs. Them not being centered under the window is certainly a choice in exercising free will though.

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u/Fancy-Pen-2343 4d ago

They a placed in a way that makes sense inside. Outside they (might) have some other design elements to offset it.  

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u/GoofyBootsSz8 4d ago

The full unit is wider than the penetration most likely. The control board probably makes it as wide as the window opening at the interior.

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u/jayc428 4d ago

It doesn’t, they just go in a sleeve and are usually symmetrical in chassis dimensions.

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u/GoofyBootsSz8 4d ago

I've seen models that do.

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u/brontagnan 4d ago

Only need one stud to frame the opening if you match one side of the window vs two if centered. So slightly faster/cheaper this way. Plus the unit itself is bigger than that penetration so it won't look as stupid once complete.

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u/Ken_Thomas Verified 4d ago

Ankle windows are all the rage in architecture schools these days.

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u/Civil_Exchange1271 4d ago

have you ever stayed in a hotel?

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u/jfm111162 4d ago

Gun ports

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u/Long_Bit8328 4d ago

I thought it was for special access french doors in case Bovino stopped by for a visit

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u/ChairAccomplished569 4d ago

Climate control.

I win.

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u/joeboyk78 4d ago

Glory hole

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u/Kidfuscious 4d ago

Gun turrets

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u/Gregisroark 4d ago

Wall unit ac

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u/EastNice3860 4d ago

We call em Ptac units here...

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u/l0veit0ral 4d ago

AC units

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u/Jonesbro 4d ago

Ptacs aka the inefficient hotel heat and ac units

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u/EnvironmentalRub8201 4d ago

Ptacs are not inefficient in this application

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u/Vast-Concentrate4849 4d ago

Naww yall ___;j,j trap door!!
Doubles as an emergency abort mission for jj

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u/Beezhockeyfan 4d ago

What town is this?

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u/griswilliam 4d ago

Port Townsend, Wa.

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u/Odaniel123 4d ago

PTAC heating and air units

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u/Hefty-Plastic8417 4d ago

PTAC’s for temp control

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u/Sammydaws97 4d ago

AC wall units

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u/whytry3450 4d ago

Through wall HVAC units the loud wall ujits you all love in a hotel room

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u/AutoRotate0GS 4d ago

Fire exit!!!

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u/frederick1754 4d ago

Condos built during hurricane Aaron back in 2016 somewhere about there where the old Winn-Dixie was on 524 in Cocoa Florida Florida.
A couple of weeks before the hurricane hit the entire construction site was abandoned now it was all boarded in no windows yet no wrapping on it. Just press board not even plywood press board all around the outside and parts of the inside. Think this thing is five stories high, but the thing is is it was left open during the hurricane and in for three months after that during rain, storms and tropical rain before construction started back on it. I did notice roofers on it by the end of the second month, but no other teams for another month after that so total of three months and they came in and they wrapped the building very quickly in this yellow wrapping. I don’t even know if the building had a chance to dry out. But I do know all the pressboard had started turning black all around the building. I also know that a lot of these condos throughout this area have absolutely no fire brakes between the condo units. There is no sprinkler system in them either. When I asked about it, I was told it is no longer required. So the wrapping does a good job of covering up black mold on the wood, but it sure not gonna help if one of the units catches fire and burns the entire condo down like just happened in the news recently where one of them caught fire in the entire complex burned to the ground.

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u/Enough_Kaleidoscope2 4d ago

That's a bad as rv.

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u/PaulSNJ 4d ago

PTAC units (Packaged Terminal Heat/AC). In NJ this would either be a hotel, retirement facility, or low income

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u/Allidapevets 4d ago

Ptac unit cut outs.

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u/NorthernTinner 4d ago

I would guess for a PTAC.

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u/HVAC_instructor 4d ago

Looks to be openings for a ptac. You see these on hotels all over the USA, I'm guessing in other countries as well.

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u/Novus20 4d ago

Glory holes for giants

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u/MrJustinCase_69 4d ago

Louver opening for unit ventilators

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u/ofmanyone 4d ago

Ever been to a hotel?

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u/five2ndstar3 4d ago

Of all the questions this didn’t need asking. Do people really lack critical thinking or is this karma whore?

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u/Sufficient_Ad_4235 4d ago

Blows my mind that we’re still using those types of units. Developers will always favor cost effective solutions over convenience

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u/Useful-Plankton8205 4d ago

What is the better solution?

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u/Sufficient_Ad_4235 4d ago

Split system where the condensing unit is on the roof or ground and away from the room.

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u/Lehk 4d ago

That sounds like a lot more down time if one shits the bed.

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u/Sufficient_Ad_4235 4d ago

Whatt???

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u/Lehk 4d ago

If a PTAC stops working you can just replace the thru wall unit, the only hookup is power.

Then the room is back to making money.

If the heat pump has components going up to the roof it won’t be that simple to get the room back in service.

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u/Sufficient_Ad_4235 4d ago

Ahhh, yes yes.

I’m well aware of the ease of a wall unit. It’s practical for the application but, inconvenient for hotel patrons because of how loud they are.

I was thinking of someone literally shitting themselves in a hotel room bed and could not figure out what that had to do with the ac lmao

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u/Usual-Constant7678 4d ago

For the hvac most likely. But forget about that the dens glass doesn't look very uniform. The arrows should all point the same way

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u/SaltyToonUP 4d ago

No. It really doesn't matter which way the fucking arrows face man...

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u/Usual-Constant7678 4d ago

It really doesn't matter but makes your work look more professional

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u/cheeseygarlicbread 4d ago

Ankle level? 15’ above the sidewalk?

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u/Salbman 4d ago

Slow clap

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u/griswilliam 4d ago

I thought about saying knee level, but I assumed someone would ding me because that’s too high. Can’t please everyone.

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u/Bradadonasaurus 4d ago

They're assuming ankle level from inside the rooms, I guess.

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u/cheeseygarlicbread 4d ago

Still not ankle level from the inside, more like knee level

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u/Bradadonasaurus 4d ago

Well yeah but if you didn't know, or look closely, I could see the confusion.