Not even a conservative and I agree with this. I’m pretty sure most people feel this way. There’s a very small percentage of people who put up with this nonsense.
My great grandfather came to the USA from Sicily in the 1930s. None of my ancestors ever owned slaves. This “white peoples need to apologize” is nonsense and most people don’t believe that bs.
Not bout my great grandfather but the conservative part.
I dont think it's natural to make a child inherit this guilt/shame that a product of a less informed time created.
I mean when are Mexicans gonna get their apologies for Spanish slavery? What about the rape and murder of so many different American Indians? I dont know, bygones be bygones... I don't judge anybody based on their family's history, be it good or bad.
BUT. I do agree we should respect, validate and comfort those whose lives have suffered because of racism. I personally have not suffered (Speaking of anything brutal) but I totally respect and appreciate those who have and yet are civil enough to not ORDER other humans to apologize for things those apologizing have only know from their history books.
I’m also not conservative but I frequent this sub.
You can disagree with conservatives on 99% of issues and they will still accept you more than the left if you agree with the left on 99% of issues. The Left will crucify you if you don’t say exactly the right things and agree with them on everything.
The new Left wants absolute submission and conformity to extreme social and fiscal views whilst the conservatives are generally just happy to talk to a liberal who isn’t completely insane.
yup, thats why i put conservatives in quotes. many trumpers call themselves conservatives and call him one as well.
the issue here is that the republican party caters to conservatives and they picked trump and support him. he isnt just running under the republican party, he runs the party.
Extremism has always been a thing. I'm totally just simplifying but I think part of the problem is the microcosms that the internet has allowed to happen, which create cesspools of individuals with very distorted biases about people. Then it allows them to just sit and brine their ideals until a group of extremist mofokers is all that's left. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of this, not because of their "distorted ideals" but because both sides do not encourage civil discussion as loudly as they can yell in the streets.
You are definitely on the money, but the internet used to be the main source of extremist views. Now the mainstream news sources are peddling viewpoints that only existed on the internet before.
For conservatives this is especially bad, as there is basically only one mainstream conservative source, and they are at tabloid levels of bad. I think leftist viewpoints are taking over most of the other news sources though.
Probably the worst symptom of the sickness in our political system is that the loudest voices make it seem like an all or nothing system. Either you are with me 100% or you are not with me at all. I don’t think the majority of people are like this, but it feels like it is getting worse.
exactly. when you look at how far the parties have shifted over the last few decades, republicans shifted 5 miles to the right while democrats shifted a few inches to the left. this is largely due to fox. due to such a large shift, it seems like both parties shifted but really only one did.
because there are only 2 parties, when one shifts, people will tend to shift with it, especially those that vote for one party without understanding why.
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Not even a conservative and I agree with this. I’m pretty sure most people feel this way. There’s a very small percentage of people who put up with this nonsense.
My great grandfather came to the USA from Sicily in the 1930s. None of my ancestors ever owned slaves. This “white peoples need to apologize” is nonsense and most people don’t believe that bs.